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Sartoria J Design Group

Dec 8, 2018

    1. Oh, thanks for pointing that out! Not sure if I missed his page earlier or what. And yes, those color options sound intriguing!
       
    2. @StrontiumDog Thank you for bringing that to our attention!
      I noticed the peach cream and warm ivory are not available anymore? Perhaps they got renamed

      Im curious what the colors will be once revealed, google results shows me some nice neutral looking colors. Amber beige is nice golden tan, but I would love a more natural medium tone skin, without the tan if that makes sense? a muted tan skin

      Now that I know he is part of the Iron Crown, Im really looking forward to some teasers of the fullset, to me, he is Jaime Lannister lol
       
    3. Maybe they just thought the term "peach cream" didn't suit a manly knight? :lol: You could be right on the inspiration! If he's offered with armor, I'll guess I'll have to make room for him in the budget...
       
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    4. A post with comparisons if anyone is interested, please click the spoilers to view pictures :)

      Body Comparison

      Front comparison of SJ female body with Iplehouse and Dollshe
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      Models left to right
      Iplehouse nYID Isis, glow real skin, small bust
      Iplehouse SID - original Alyssa, normal skin, glamour bust
      Iplehouse SID - model Stella, peach skin, medium bust
      Sartoria J - Yvonne, amber beige skin, bell bust
      Iplehouse EID - Pamela, peach glow skin, large bust
      Iplehouse HID - Doria, white skin, large bust
      Dollshe 26F - Amanda, copper oriental skin, glamour bust

      Side comparison of SJ female body with Iplehouse and Dollshe
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      Models left to right
      Iplehouse nYID Isis, glow real skin, small bust
      Iplehouse SID - original Alyssa, normal skin, glamour bust
      Iplehouse SID - model Stella, peach skin, medium bust
      Sartoria J - Yvonne, amber beige skin, bell bust
      Iplehouse EID - Pamela, peach glow skin, large bust
      Iplehouse HID - Doria, white skin, large bust
      Dollshe 26F - Amanda, copper oriental skin, glamour bust

      Resin Comparison

      Sartoria J Warm Ivory compared with other company white resin
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      Sartoria J Peach Cream compared with other company normal resin
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      **theres two dollshe orientals because I mistakenly assumed the DT doll was Dollshe Fresh until I rechecked all my email receipts before posting

      Sartoria J Amber Beige compared with other company tan resin
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    5. @GreenTeaSlug - Wowza! Wonderful comparison photos!!! :D Thank you for doing them!
       
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    6. Bravo! I put these in my permanent notes.
       
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    7. @luluna you are welcome!

      @Mahgiep I was hoping you would find these useful, I know how much you love hybriding dolls <3

      I hope the skintones have just been renamed @Sianserais It makes sense now that you mention it :P Kind of like those pens made for men and women, which basically were the same just named differently ...and had a pink box. I hope they keep the white from the sample resins, its a very nice solid white with pink undertones, I want my to get Naomi in that skin color with the corset, she's perfect as a french period rococo lady

      I thought because the bodies were so exaggerated and idealized like those instagram models, that she needed to be styled and photographed like one too lol

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      Juliette
       
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    8. @GreenTeaSlug The comparison picture of the bodies is just great, thanks a ton! I just got a bunch of SartoriaJ-clothes, it will be interesting how they will fit on the EID-bodies.

      That picture of Juliette is cool. I love the pink fur!
       
    9. @GreenTeaSlug Wow! Up till now these bodies didn't make sense but now I get it! Wow! Oh I already said that!
      My large SJ order of clothes etc. seem to have left South Korea. Can't wait to see! These are for my model SIDs.
       
    10. @GreenTeaSlug - great comparisons! Very helpful and so useful, thank you.

      Check out SartoriaJ's gallery again...the male resin colours are up! :love

      Right, I have a complete 100% failure to keep any male bjds for very long. I can't honestly pinpoint what it is that makes it impossible for the lads to stay. However, I have had a liking for Iple's Rex from the moment he was released...long story short...also quite keen on SJ's Jude because he has a bit of a Rex vibe. So, Jude on the new SJ athletic body has just started to wrangle his way onto the"in-my-head-only"wishlist.

      Please can I request some Jude spam:eusa_pray
      What size eyes works for the Jude sculpt?
      Thank you.
       
    11. @StrontiumDog - I have the first version of Jude...so I think his head is a tad smaller than what size head they are selling now...though my Zak works well on an EID body...and even my smaller Jude can do an EID body...but I prefer him on the SID. But I think any head you buy now will again be a little larger...

      So with that in mind here's my Jude on an Iple SID body...

      [​IMG]Jude by luluna33, on Flickr
       
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    12. @luluna - thank you for enabling...uh, I am mean sharing:wiggle
      He most certainly does look good on the SID body. to me Jude looks a little less mean and moody compared to Rex, but they could pass as brothers. I checked out your flickr from your post above and have to say that Max and Quinn make a fine pairing. Interestingly, where you have Jude with Elle, I can see that an Iple Rachel would work with Jude too and that's something for consideration here.
       
    13. @StrontiumDog - You are most welcome! If I remember correctly...that photo of Max and Quinn...the body is an EID body...with the slightly smaller Jude head...just so you know. :)

      I also thought Jude reminded me of Rex when Jude first came out and did this little comparison pic. :XD:

      On the left is Iplehouse Rex and on the right SartorialJ Jude.

      [​IMG]Rex vs Jude by luluna33, on Flickr
       
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    14. Oh crikey.....:ablink::drool
      Thanks for the comparison. Rex has sharper features, me thinks, Jude a little more round, but they could be related. Well, I'm not rushing into anything, but there is some temptation bubbling:lol:
       
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    15. Jarrad is up now! The pictures at least.
      Limited JARRAD Full Doll
      With face up A, the white hair and the outfit he definitely screams Geralt of Riva to me :D
       
    16. :nowords:...Oh he's looking good...positively edible in fact. *goes to study images a little more*
      @Ashemanu - he certainly does!


      Adding; Jude and Zak are also up for sale on the new bodies.
       
    17. I went to order but I'm confused about the face up. If you order "no" is that for the free face up? If you order the "yes, $60" one, what do you get? And what is custom?
       
    18. Oooh he looks great! However I'm not sure if the website is loading for me correctly, but there's only one photo of each version and they look sort of blurry?

      Edit: Ok, the images loaded but they're still very blurry. Hmm.
       
    19. I notice that the website works best in Chrome for me.
      Jay said I should use NO for the free one, then tell them which face up I want. The other options are for those who didn't order a face up originally.
       
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    20. @Mahgiep - Thanks for that....I was wondering about what to do about the faceup issue on the 'free' head also.
       
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    21. She is so hot and beautiful!

      I just received Eleanor with body for my Virginia and it is more cool in life than on photos!
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      sartoriaj female body posing
      by Reinameron Vesper, on Flickr
       
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    22. Hi everyone!! First time posting here!!

      I caved and bought a Limited Zakary Full Doll with the new SartoriaJ pose body in Amber Beige skin with the B face-up, since I think those choices are the most similar to Beast!Zakary from a little while ago (I LOVE the way Beast!Zakary looks but I missed the order for him)!!

      I've been looking at the Iplehouse ladies (S.I.D Mari in particular, and also F.I.D Isabel because yowza, they are gorgeous) for a couple of months and I found SartoriaJ through Facebook because someone said they had gotten great clothing for their Iplehouse girl there, but I had no idea that SJ made their own line of beautiful boys and girls!!

      As soon as I saw Zakary I was very attracted to him, which is incredibly strange for me because I'm extremely into much more feminine sculpts for both guys and girls. And, even though the one I like the most, Beast!Zakary, is no longer available, I guess I'm incredibly fortunate that SJ opened an order window for a limited version of him right when I was considering getting him!!

      All this is to say, if any of you have a Beast!Zakary, please show him to me!! Or any Zakary, for that matter, really. Please flood my inbox with Zakarys!!
       
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    23. There is a beautiful new doll today, elf Lobelia. Please does anyone have any poseability photos of the new Sartoria J body? Also, are there any bust comparison pics of bell and dew shape? I find it very difficult to see body shapes in the promo pics, as Sartoria J tend to take very light skin pictures against a white background! Probably just my eyesight, but all I see is glare, and I really would like to see profiles and body shapes of these lovely dolls. It might help me finally decide to take the plunge. What size bust do you think Lobelia has in the promo pictures (there is no bust option in the dropdowns as yet).
       
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    24. Thank you so much Sianserais! That's so very much appreciated!! ^.^
       
    25. Glad to help. ^_^ And I agree, I wish they didn't take their photos against such a glaringly white background - it really does affect how much detail the camera picks up.

      As for Lobelia herself... I think I have the same problem I did with Jarrad. She's a lovely sculpt, but unless I think up something specific I want to use her for, I'll have to pass.

      Edit: Uh oh, I just had an idea... :lol:
       
      #866 Sianserais, Jun 26, 2020
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    26. Haha.
       
    27. From what I've seen, is it a bit hit and miss whether SartoriaJ include eyes, even with a complete doll with faceup? That's a shame if so, as really we are buying the full look, aren't we (forgive me if I'm wrong!). Has anyone received eyes with their doll and, if so, were they glass or acrylic, and what size is perfect for them? Lobelia is calling to me, but I'd love to get her look including those eyes...:)
       
      #868 LilyAndRuby, Jun 27, 2020
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    28. I got eyes with my Zackary head and face up, I purchased from their etsy store. Not sure if they're glass or acrylic though!
       
    29. That's good news, thanks ella-tron.
       
    30. @LilyAndRuby - In my experience, even when the heads were offered separately, you had to purchase the eyes for an extra fee. That's how I got mine. Has anyone actually gotten free eyes?

      Edit: Actually, after digging out old receipts, I'm not sure if there was a charge for the eyes after all. Sorry for the confusion. It was still an option one had to choose, however.
       
      #871 Sianserais, Jun 27, 2020
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    31. Gosh I can't remember if my Zakary head with faceup came with eyes. I think I took photos....no I don't think there were eyes.
       
    32. Mahgiep and all, my Zakary from first sale came with eyes, free eyes random color from 3 possibilities was on offer when ordering Zakary head, I ordered without face-up. Eyes are dark grey, but they are not glass.
       
    33. OK, thank you!...so ordering 12mm eyes separately it is then. Or do perhaps 14mm glass eyes with small iris, like Beetles ones, fit well? Maybe for the guys but not the girls I am guessing.
       
    34. Did anyone else get Jarrad?
      I loved him because of the Witcher fullset but I waited until the newer faceups were revealed, and Im glad I did because I really love the natural faceup with the dark brows. He looks like an actor I like a lot with that faceup. I got him in sonorian beige. Ive always wanted a normal skin tone that had tan/brown undertones like a natural olive skintone that isnt tanned, so Im excited for that.

      I really like their male body, it looks very promising. I was planning on getting Zackary in espresso but I was too late, but Ill just keep the funds until he is made available again in the future.

      I remember the free eyes were only part of a promotion, and the last I remember them being available were for the head only limited sales. I think only Zackary and Jude came with them as part of the promotion, I dont think the female heads got the free eyes, but they got free wigs.

      @LilyAndRuby Congratulations! Im pretty sure they are using this eye:
      12mm Glass Eyes_Ice Blue
      but, I think she will look really nice with these eyes too because of the glitter in them
      12mm Glass Eyes_Aqua Blue

      The body in the pictures is the bell bust (large), I have an earlier picture posted by them that shows the difference
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      I have my Naomi in 14mm small iris eyes (by Soom, made by Enchanted Doll) and it works well so im sure it will be okay too, specially since she defaulted with 12mm glass eyes.
      If you are getting different eyes, make sure its low dome, I had problems with high dome eyes for any doll with realistic features, unless I want it to look straight ahead

      Which skin color are you getting her in?
      Im not sure if you know this, but there are these heel legs that look really nice, like shes on her tip toes without the foot joints
      Esthetic Leg (W)
      Im going to get that if I get Lobelia, I love how the heel leg look and wish all doll companies offered them

      There are also so many nice fairy wings being sold as earrings on etsy, that I think would look nice on her, I ordered some time ago, but with covid19 who knows when they will arrive. Im glad I ordered them because I think they will look great with her
       
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    35. I had to purchase separately any eyes I got with a SartorialJ head...Jude was the only head I bought eyes for. (And I'm not even using them with him at the moment! LOL)

      @GreenTeaSlug - Congrats on your incoming boy. I would have purchased him...but I went instead and got another Jude (with the free head offer) instead. I look forward to seeing how the body works.:wiggle
       
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    36. I got a pair of eyes with my Jude head back when I bought him. They're oval glass with a low dome. Very pretty and perfect for my character. I think they were free with the initial release promotion.
       
    37. @GreenTeaSlug i also got Jarrad! I ordered him in Opal Beige. I asked if I could request face-up type B without the facial hair and they said they were able to do so which was nice. I also ordered some clothes and and a pair of shoes for him as well.
      This will be the last doll I get for a while so I want to everything to come at once. I’ve never ordered from SartoriaJ before so I’m really excited after seeing everyone’s pictures here!
       
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    38. I really like that SartorialJ is doing an Elf Lady...but I think I've only seen maybe two owner photos of the new female body....I'd LOVE to see more....so I can decide if I want one.

      Till then I just have to have my female floating filching bodies.:XD:
      Naomi (Lyndisfarne) is on an Iplehouse HID here...

      [​IMG]Lyndisfarne by luluna33, on Flickr

      More photos please!:)
       
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    39. I am still waiting for my Yvonne and her body to land, and hopefully her clothes will come with her. It's been such a looooong wait, but I believe she is still currently sitting in the international post somewhere across the Atlantic. So hopefully she'll start moving soon? I loooove the new elf. I would so love to get her, but not sure that it is in the cards. We'll have to see..
       
    40. @Sianserais & @LilyAndRuby In regards to getting free eyes. SartoriaJ had a promo on etsy for when you bought 1st Jude head, you got free eyes with him. That promo also ran with their 2nd head Zakary for I also got free eyes with him. Both were face ups and both of their eyes were oval glass eyes. You could choose from 3 colors with Jude and I believe random with Zak. Not positive. Jude came with the 8mm which in my opinion were too small on him for they gapped. 10 mm were more suited for that head. As for Zak, He wore 10mm and he came with those size eyes. So yeah. They gave free eyes in both of those times. For the 1st Yvonne head . I had to buy the eyes for her. and i think from then on , it's been you had to buy eyes separatedly.


      @GreenTeaSlug,
      How exciting. I was tempted by Jarrad but decided to buy Jude, since there was that special of getting a body and extra head if youo had bought a previous head. He wanted, his own body in a darker color, expresso brown. I do like their male body. Very nicely done.

      Will look forward to seeing your Jarrad. I thought in that darker color with those amazing cheekbones, he makes a wonderful character.

      An yep. I had forgotten that my Yvonne head came with a free wig.

      PS. I do love that outfit. I didn''t know it was called a Witcher outfit. I got it with Jude.
       
      #881 Bren, Jun 28, 2020
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    41. Thanks all for the info! I was probably remembering buying a pair with my Yvonne then.
       
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    42. Theres a new male elf coming and he's really amazing, now Im not too sad I missed the preorder deadline for the Jude - because this elf has everything Ive wanted in a male sculpt - Im just going to imagine that he's actually a vampire with his fangs retracted lol :love He's also going to be available as a human version, like the lovely Lobelia. He's going to be released this friday so faceup and fullset pictures shouldnt be too long from now ... :whee:

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      @Bren Jude in Espresso is the perfect combination, Im eager to see him when he arrives; which faceup did you pick for him?
      Have you not seen Netflix's Witcher? Its really good - its so obvious the costume and the Jarrad was inspired by the main character, I had to get the fullset outfit for that alone XD The show is based on a video game, but I havent played it yet (Im hooked on the resident evil games, and I keep replaying them rather than play a new game....lol)

      @luluna I actually really really like the Sartoria body, its got its faults (@Sianserais review is pretty spot on) but I found adding a dab of hot glue sueding to the elbows, hips and knees made her really stable. I much prefer it over the HID and EID woman because its not as heavy/clunky as the HID, but has the softness and curves of the EID. I think of that body as the instagram influencer body or a true Jessica Rabbit body. Let me know if there's a certain look or aesthetic you like and Ill see if I can help you. I got the one with the larger bust because I liked how exaggerated her curves are, but Ill probably be replacing all my dolls with the corset bust since I love Sartoria's dresses and corsets lol.

      @PuddinCake Congratulations! I hope you will share him and your thoughts of the body once he arrives to you; I will tell you now though, the box is huge. They werent playing around when designing their boxes. I specially want to know what you think of their Opal skintone and how it compares to other normal skin dolls if you have any and have the time to compare, even if just by text :)
       
      #883 GreenTeaSlug, Jun 30, 2020
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    43. Uh...:ablink::aeyepop::love
       
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    44. @GreenTeaSlug

      oh you had to go and do that, did you? lol. I'm so loving what I see. Why couldn't they wait until the Christmas sale to bring out the Males elves. Aarghhh. sigh. Thank you so much sharing him. Will look forward to seeing him in full face up.

      I didn't go with the face ups that they had for him(JUDE) as SD. I tried sometime different. Wish me luck that it works out with the expresso brown. And no I don't watch Netflix. But I do like the outfit. :3nodding:
       
      #885 Bren, Jul 1, 2020
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    45. He's looking great too! My problem is that I do love elves, but I don't have much use for elf-dolls because they don't exist in my stories. :lol: (I could use Lobelia for someone, but the body doesn't suit the character.)
       
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    46. It's Elf Jude, and other than the elf ears, they gave him an open mouth (with teeth). Im sure most of us saw the emails, but Ill just include it right here for those who havent gotten it in their inbox

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      This makes me happy because I missed the Jude deadline XD Im not sure if the human head included will be the classical Jude head, or the same head with the open mouth, just without the elf ears, either way, Im happy lol.

      I wonder if they will make him a dark elf or a light elf... Im hoping its something similar to Legolas's look, or better yet, Thranduil from the Hobbit would be perfect. (I seem to talk about Thranduil a lot....)

      @Bren I think he's going to turn out amazing, Im pretty sure Zako Zako makes their faceups? Theyve always made sculpts look really beautiful, so Im pretty sure you will be happy. I am looking forward to him and hope you post him here; their new espresso skin looks amazing and it would be cool if they had an equivalent of it for their female dolls too! (Im debating between sonoran and espresso myself for Elf Jude)

      @Sianserais What were you thinking for Lobelia? The more angles I see of her, the more I like her? Specially the new video (which btw, really shows off the sculpt well, I hope they make 360 videos for all their future sculpts)

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      I think its too soon for them to be making different body sculpts at this time, but just in case they read the boards, what type of body were you thinking of? My friend is getting the doll with the corset bust and modifying to look more like naturally small chest. I know @Mahgiep wanted a thinner body, with less curves similar to the SID model in ratio Im guessing
       
    47. After seeing the video of Lobelia on instagram, I am so tempted to buy her now!
       
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    48. I tried to find answers to this earlier in the thread, but the conversation drifted to another topic, so I'll ask it here: SartoriaJ sent me an invoice for my first layaway payment like a day or so after I placed an order for Zakary. I paid it a couple weeks ago, but am wondering whether I have to send them a second payment myself or if they'll send me another invoice?
       
    49. @DayofDiana I got an invoiced :) they send it to you automatically based on how long you requested the layaway and how many payments you chose :) They use Paypal's automatic billing system I think

      Zackary is really beautiful, his side profile is my favorite of all the sculpts, you will be very happy!
       
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    50. @GreenTeaSlug - I did wonder if that's who it was, given the chin. The teeth are subtle enough they probably wouldn't bother me, but I just don't know that I need him. I really like the idea of adding elf versions of previous sculpts, though!
      As for Lobelia... I have a couple characters currently shelled in SOOM SGs whose proportions look a little strange in my mostly IH group, so I've kind of had it in the back of my head for a while now that maybe if appropriate sculpts turn up with a more realistic body-type, I'd replace them. Lobelia's sculpt would totally work for Verity (currently an SG Nephelin), but she's supposed to be tall and willowy, and those SJ hips are kind of hard to ignore. :lol:
       
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    51. Just ordered Lobelia, I'm so excited!
       
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    52. @Kaname Kimura congratulations, and just in time before her end of sale :)

      If you dont mind sharing, what options did you choose for her?
       
    53. @GreenTeaSlug I got her in peach cream with the dew bust and a custom face up (Yvonne Parisienne [type d] with the lip colour of Naomi Arabian Nights [type a]).
       
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    54. That sounds like a gorgeous combination!
       
    55. I really like that they are now posting a calendar with a release dates like Soom and Switch

      Rerelease:
      Yvonne July 24 - July 30
      Naomi July 31 - August 6
      Serena August 6 - August 13


      Theres also going to be a new guy, Joshua, but for fashion doll size, Im guessing he will be turned into full size at a much later date. All the other guys will also be available in fashion size.

      Im personally waiting for Naomi, as soon as I saw the newer white skin, I knew I needed her in that skintone, its perfect for the Marie Antoinette powdered skin look, plus the corset bust! I hope we get some rococo type dresses with the release :)

      Also, a headsup if anyone missed it, they are selling sample clothing, including past limited sets
      SALE - SALE
       
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    56. I wondered if they were going to do any re-releasing of sculpts!

      @GreenTeaSlug - I think you will love a Naomi in WS (of any resin....LOL)

      Till then...here's a Naomi in NS...:XD: Just to get you in the mood.

      [​IMG]Katla by luluna33, on Flickr
       
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    57. @GreenTeaSlug

      Thanks for the heads up. I would love to get a Jude in fashion size body.


      @luluna What a beauty. So soft and sweet looking.
       
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    58. I REALLY like the posting of whats coming on the calendar !!
      TY for the info @GreenTeaSlug :)
      Helps me budget for the future hehe