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Dec 8, 2018

    1. Thank you. I have replied.
       
    2. @Mahgiep Your couple looks great! Especially your girl in her green dress, I had my eyes on that one too. I am also interested about the wig - but not for EID males, for EID or SID girls. Does it fit your girl? If it does, it should fit an EID or SID girl too.
       
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    3. There's still a few Yvonne heads + the Yvonne-Harley Quinn and Jude-Joker heads available on their site, if anyone's interested.

      (Also, anyone have an idea how long they'd take to ship? I'm kind of antsy.)
       
      #724 monkeypizzasonic, Feb 17, 2020
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    4. @monkeypizzasonic

      on their website they stated within 5 days since they had them on hand. But not sure if they mean business days or regular days.
       
    5. I ordered last Tuesday, so it should be 5 business days now at least...I'll at least give it until the end of the week before I actually start worrying.
       
    6. Oh man, after birds of prey, that Harley head is tempting.
       
    7. Just got an e-mail saying they shipped my order! I'll have to wait a bit longer, but at least I know she's on her way now!
       
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    8. I was able to obtain a Warm Ivory Naomi head from a lovely DOA member....:XD:

      [​IMG]Floating head by luluna33, on Flickr
       
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    9. Congrats Luluna,

      She is lovely. Love her flowery dress.
       
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    10. @luluna - I think that's the first owner-photo I've seen of Naomi. (Edit: No, I take that back, GreenTeaSlug has one, ne?) She looks very sweet there!
       
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    11. She looks so beautiful!
       
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    12. @luluna Beautiful girl! I love that wig!
       
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    13. She's incredibly gorgeous @luluna! :D
       
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    14. Thanks so very much! @Ashemanu and @Quiet and Insane - :)

      Her wig is by Amadiz and has a pink tone to it. I had it on another doll but inspiration made me put it on her and it worked so well with this dress.
       
    15. @Sianserais thank you so much for the box opening thread AND a thorough review!
      I already thought the Iplehouse box was huge... the HID box made me nervous walking around in the post office, but the Sartoria J box is even bigger than both of them it seems. Looks like Ill be requesting them to deliver rather than pick up lol

      I think you are on to something when you said that the extra space was for future big historical items like knights armor and helmets. Im excited for that, but my wallet weeps in anticipation. Thanks for including the resin samples, I like that the new ivory is actually pale white! Once the corset bust becomes available, ill definitely be getting a Naomi in white.

      Shame about the posing, but I appreciate you mentioning it since Ill be getting it ready once my doll ships.

      I have a question for you since you own the body, I love the measurements of her foot, it meant that SD16/SDGR heels (those heels that are all over ebay/YJA etc would fit her. Do you have any of those heels? I love the variety of styles and looks made for those feet and i was hoping based on measurements, they would fit the SJ heel foot as well.

      @luluna you are so talented, Ive never seen that pose on a doll before but it looks so natural, like she's the girl next door type, but still coy and playful. I love that expression, pose and feeling you got out of her, something about Naomi just makes everything pink seem so natural on her, and I really love how wispy and natural the hair falls on her shoulders. I think it maybe my favorite of all your photos :)

      Did anyone order Yu here?
      I couldnt resist her after faceup C came out, so I had to get her in ivory skin

      I hope it was someone in this thread that got the Joker Jude... I havent watched the movie (Im not into superhero genre) but the aesthetic is really nice, reminds me a bit of the Crow, I only wish Jude had sculpted teeth just to see it painted in silver lol. I already have one I got second hand, I think that was made for the HK doll convention some time ago, I just havent decided on how I want to style him, but I love his face.
       
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    16. @GreenTeaSlug - I actually didn't think I'd be the first here to get one home, since I know I wasn't the first to order. Guess the others went for layaway.

      I figured I should warn people about the huge box if nothing else. I wouldn't recommend balancing this one on a bicycle to get it home!

      The Warm Ivory is appropriately named. It has just a touch of color to it, and appears to be a good match to my one doll in IH White.
      Edit: Peach Cream seems to be about midway between SM NS and IH PG, so, not a match, but still in that family of tones.

      I'm afraid I don't own many heel shoes (since my characters mostly wouldn't wear them), so I can't really answer that for you, sorry! I can tell you that the heel-feet are obviously narrower and higher than IH feet (with a really high arch, too), and the only shoes I own that fit them right now are SJ's boots. They definitely can't wear IH heels, but the flat feet are almost exactly the same length, so they can still wear IH flats, even if they're loose in the width.
       
      #741 Sianserais, Feb 20, 2020
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    17. Guilty (raises hand) LOL
      This will be my very first SJ head !
       
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    18. My Yvonne head came in yesterday!:D I didn't have time to really play with her because I had to go to work right after, but I made a quick Instagram post when I got back and I'll try to post a more in-depth unboxing thread soon.
       
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    19. Very pretty! I too ordered Yvonne S/D with the Bounty hunter makeup. I ordered her in the peach cream. Over all, what is your opinion of the body, resin quality?
       
      #744 susieagent99, Feb 22, 2020
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    20. Thanks so very much! What a lovely thing to say. :abambi:
      I took that photo so fast with very little set up...I was holding her upright with one hand and with the camera in my other...I played with her hair a little before I took the photo. I miss the old EID hands...as they are so expressive, I believe. Like they are here.
       
    21. Well, as I've said before, the proportions (in particular how skinny the wrists and ankles are) bother me a bit, but because of how thick the fabric of this dress is, I think it ends up looking pretty natural here. Maybe that was the intent? The sculpting is very nice, the resin quality is lovely, but the joints definitely need sueding/wiring/something. Right now, she's probably about on the same level as my first-gen EIDWs in terms of posing, though of course the specifics are different (she has a better design for the ankles, but no mobility joint, and the elbows are not being very cooperative for me).
      In short, I'm used to dolls like this, but some people have much higher expectations, so...
       
      #746 Sianserais, Feb 23, 2020
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    22. Yvonne. Another head I ended up getting.:XD:

      [​IMG]Katla by luluna33, on Flickr
       
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    23. I thought that looked like a Yvonne when I saw it in the other thread. Loving the black hair and red lips on her!
       
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    24. @luluna,

      She looks beautiful in the red. matches her lips


      Does anybody know if SartoriaJ wll rerelease face sculpt Selena again???
       
    25. [​IMG]
      Quick pic of my Yvonne head - she's probably gonna be blank and body-less for a while, but I at least gave her some eyes.
       
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    26. Happy Day !
      I just received my very first head from SJ and he is so FREAKY AWESOME hehe
      I'm looking fwd to ordering more in the future :)
      **Quick pic
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    27. Oh my goodness he looks absolutely fantastic!! Congratulations!! I absolutely adore his look :D
       
    28. @Twisty,

      Wow, what a unique and cool looking face.
       
    29. I would like this information to be on SartoriaJ's website- it would be really handy for reference.
      The one measurement I don't see is the waist girth. is there any chance of finding that out?

       
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    30. @Twisty Impressive! I really like the wig you chose - it looks perfect with the face up.
       
    31. That is an awesome faceup and the wig is great!

      @furbikini The size chart is on the Sartoria site under support. If you ask for the waist measurement on Q&A I bet he will add it to the chart,
       
    32. @monkeypizzasonic - Congrats and good luck with her!

      @Twisty - Wow, very striking! Also love the wig! It looks like you painted the body some too, or is that just the image?
       
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    33. Sharing my Sartoriaj Zakary. I love the slight smirk he has! The body he's on (Iplehouse EID) can't pose very well at all, but he at least looks pretty good on it!

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    34. @monkeypizzasonic

      I have always enjoy seeing the Yvonne Face sculpt even without a face up. Thanks for the box opening.

      @ella_tron

      Love your Zakary. I like him in the EID body as well. I really like his brown eyes. It's hard to find nice brown eyes that look so alive.


      Here is my Custom Face up Yvonne from the head sale. I really like her and I couldn't be happier with her.

      [​IMG]
       
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    35. @Bren She's very unique and pretty :)
       
    36. @Bren !!!
      She's beautiful!!!!! I think she maybe my favorite Yvonne (I saw her on the head sales and hoped that someone here would have gotten her - and Im so glad it was you :D)
      I ordered Yvonne in the tan skin as a full doll with pink lipstick - I hope she turns out as cute as yours did <3

      Im very certain Serena will be coming back. Theres a new teaser about the corset bust (which Im very excited about! Im sure this will come with one of their signature period dresses) and Im thinking new body = head choices with full doll purchase. I will have to ask them just to make sure, because I need that body with Naomi's head in their new brighter ivory skin. Ill ask them just to make sure and get back to you asap :)

      Have you seen Soul in a Box eyes? Im a fan of their brown eye shades, Im very happy with the ones I have and the fact that they have a big variety of brown/hazel eyes

      @ella_tron The Zackary sculpt is beautiful and the choices you made make him even more so, I love the cool feel of your photos :)
      The body may not be a great poser, but its so well blushed, so subtle and realistic, its very nice! He looks natural on it

      @monkeypizzasonic congratulations :)
      I always thought that Yvonne on a male body, and painted in a somewhat masculine makeup would look interesting and iconic like the pretty Soom males that have female heads (Deneb/Saiph/Dia), I think a neck donut would fix the gapping and length if thats what you are going for

      @furbikini I emailed them but didnt get a reply about it, figured that the timing was bad because it was when they first debuted their doll line and must have been swamped with orders and emails. I was going to wait until my doll arrived so I could update the measurement without bothering them, but Ill go ahead and email them in a few :)

      @Twisty Happy day indeed! He looks amazing with that wig! I always loved how much he looked like the Crow and that wig really proves I think XD Congratulations on nabbing him and thank you for posting his beautiful picture
      I was told much earlier that they were planning fantasy hands like Edward Scissorhands and that is something I really really really want to see, and specially paired with your Joker Jude!

      @luluna thats the Harley Quinn Yvonne!? Amazing, and so sensual! She looks like shes going to one of those naked Witch rituals in the forest to preserve her youth and bounty (Im imagining shes not wearing much under that hood lol)
       
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    37. I was thinking the same thing. I don't have any SD male characters planned atm that she would work for, but of the two female characters I'm debating between one was a male in their past life, and one is a no-nonsense military woman loosely based on another male character. So she's probably going to end up with an androgynous face-up at least (and possibly sharing a buff body with my incoming Carina head who will be most likely playing the other character).

      ...Neck donut would help, but I don't know much about them. Where would I get one from?
       
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    38. @Ashemanu
      Thank you very much.

      @GreenTeaSlug
      Thank you. I have to tell you that I just loved that face up since the moment I saw the preview for the head sale. For some reason I thought they had 3 of everything so I was very surprised to find out that she is OOAK. That there were only 1 of hers. So I"m very glad that I could get her. I think you will be very happy with your Yvonne. I can't wait to see her when she comes. Believe it or not I got now three of her, I like her so much.

      It's good news to hear that Serena may make a comeback. She actually matches perfectly a character that I want to shell. I hadn't realized that until I saw a different face up selling a wig. I was no way. So thanks for asking, will be keeping an eye out to see what they said.

      I did see Soul in the box eyes. I bought two 10mm pair as well as having one pair come with a doll's head. What I find a little troublesome is that glass eyes aren't always fitting quite right, tho the 12mm eyes that I got from SartoriaJ for my Cleopatra head, fitted her fine.
       
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    39. I got a reply and some news to share with you all

      @furbikini the waist measurement is 18.8cm (I have updated the main post and they have updated the measurements on their website with that missing information)

      Now on to the exciting news...
      I asked about the corset bust and how excited I am for it specifically because I love period dresses, corsets and basically the over the top princess looks. Its just released now :love
      Corset Bust
      The corset bust is available for purchase separately

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      They also added heel feet that isnt as arched/high as the older one
      Middle Heel Feet (W)

      There will be a new lady introduced very very soon, I dont know much about her other than the name they picked (I will let them reveal it so I dont ruin the surprise, but it sounds very French to me!) but based on the corset bust they just released, Im hoping this will be a release similar to the Marie Antoinette release, with multiple beautiful gowns. My wish is for a pale blue dress. Maybe even make the new lady Madame du Barry to go with Naomi's Marie Antoinette lol

      @Bren I just got a reply that Serena will be rereleased, but they havent decided when. I asked if the new doll will have head choices but I was told that wasnt in the plans. Im going by patterns of Iplehouse and Miyadoll, that if there is a rerelease, Im guessing its either in the summer or winter as an event, but they did say she will be available again so dont worry <3

      Bren, I am so happy you got the Yvonne OOAK because you always are generous with your beauties, I love seeing you post them. Those dark eyes with the dark blonde is perfect on her (I had fun looking up OOAK acronym, I didnt know Barbie dolls looked that cool and now I want to try doing one lol...). I know you have elaborate storylines, so Im very curious to know her story and if you decided on a name for her yet

      Good things always come in threes :fangirl:I always fantasized about having more than one of the same doll in different makeups and skintones; like she's tan from a holiday, pale in winter fashion, heavy makeup for a music video and a natural look for relaxing at home. Having multiple dolls of the same type is always fun I think!

      Yeah.. I got multiple soul eyes to find ones that fit, I think narrow iris 14mm should work better. Ill place an order and let you know since most of the ones I have are 10/12 for my iples. I made a few eyes that was a lot of fun and much easier than I thought it was going to be, have you tried doing that?

      @monkeypizzasonic These are the ones I use and buy!
      Accessories for BJD Dolls - BJD Accessories, Dolls - Alice's Collections

      I really like the characters you have come up with. I think character stories and biographies are the most exciting thing about this hobby, Im eager to see your dolls completed :) What body did you get your Carina on?
       
      #766 GreenTeaSlug, Mar 6, 2020
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    40. @GreenTeaSlug

      What most exciting and excellent news. I'm soo doing a happy dance right now. Thank you so much for letting me know. The timing is great as well so I can fnishf my layaways and plan for her.

      OOAK -( One Of A Kind) is a word I was very into before I got involved with Iplehouse. I started with Barbies, then into some of the 16-18" inch fashion doll kind. They sure got some beautiful dolls out there. Mini works of art. When I first started in the doll collectors hobby, I tried to repaint a Barbie and decided that was not my calling. I don't have the skill, but unfortunately I do have the eye for details so I don't work on my own dolls for I find them severely lacking. I can't hope to ever match the artistic skills of some of the repainter's art. It's hard to do the little ones, and they didn't have the advantage of making eyes come alive by glass or urethane. It was done all by repainting them and as an eye connoisseur, they are a must for me as a collector. Many of the best repainters no longer are in the hobby or have soar beyond my price range. I highly suggest you search out Noel Cruz to get a taste of what can be done. He uses their blank faces as a canvas and he's amazing. He's very famous.

      In regards to this Yvonne, yes. I have named her. She is named Oasis. She will be partnered up with ZAK. ( my SartoriaJ Zak). Her story is evolving in my mind. here is what I've got so far.

      -Character Biography: Last Atlantian left alive after the Island that was her home was destroyed. Her friend save her life at the last possible moment when none were to be spared. She was an orphan at a young age and was put to use as a servant in the castle of King Atlantus at the last days before their destruction. While working there, she met her friend ZAK, one she took to be a servant, by pure coincidence after running into him and spilling the food she carried over both of them. He was handsome of face and body. He didn't get mad at her clumsiness and he seemed to like her right away. She owes him her life.

      -Relations: Friend known only as ZAK to her. That is his Title not his name. To others he's better known as The Olympian God Hermes or Mercury.

      I hope you enjoyed my little Summary.

      A close up of her since you found her as beautiful as I did.

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      PS Pmed you.
       
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    41. gorgeous and omg love the story!
       
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    42. @Bren Thanks for the close up! That really is a wonderful face up! Is that glitter on her face? Looks good.
      Oasis is a beautiful name. I love it when a doll is not just a doll, but a character with a personality and a story. It makes them so much more unique and "alive".
       
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    43. Catching up with this thread...thanks to folks for posting your stunning ladies and fine looking gents:thumbup

      @GreenTeaSlug - thank you for the heads up on the new optional parts and up coming lady.

      Am I right in saying that the SartoriJ female FLAT feet are the same length as Iple's, but not as wide?
       
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    44. Just sharing what is becoming one of my favorite guys...………...just love that little smirk. Any word on when they will be introducing a guy body?
      [​IMG]Not What He Seems by wizgerg3, on Flickr
       
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    45. Correct. Or if they're not exactly the same length, they're only the tiniest bit shorter.
       
    46. @JinCIncy - wooow....see why he has become a favourite. Chiselled Cheekbones must feature as his middle names.:love
      Oh a male body eh?*wonders about going back on his no-more-guys rule*

      @Sianserais - brilliant, thanks for confirming that. I'm thinking that if the SartoriJ feet are a little more narrow, they would work on the new SID female ankles for certain shoes that I already have.
       
    47. @GreenTeaSlug - Thank you! Yes she is the Harley Yvonne. I'm not sure how I feel about her face tats (that you can't see in the photo) but I may mod her a bit....

      @Bren - Just love your Yvonne! This sculpt is a versatile one for sure!

      @JinCIncy - Your Zak is a handsome man for sure!

      And while I'm here...my Warm Ivory Naomi....:XD: I really love her on this older EID body...(the Eva head I took off is not amused about that.);)

      [​IMG]Katla by luluna33, on Flickr
       
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    48. @Ashemanu
      Thank you. Yes, Two of my Yvonne have glitter on their faces.

      @JinCIncy your Zak looks great. I do love that sculpt jaw line. So intriguing. Love his smirk:mwahaha

      @luluna Your Naomi looks so spring perfect in that outfit. Just lovely.
       
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    49. I haven't been interested in their dolls before, but I thought Eleanor looks nice, especially the little smile she has. It's sad now that SartoriaJ have got the body, they refuse to sell heads only. Due to it I will most likely pass and lurk the 2nd hand market later on. I don't really get what would they lose through offering head only as an option, because the fact is, not a single body will ever please everyone who likes the head. It cannot possibly be because of recast business, or could it?

      I'm hesitant about the body, as it seems they used Iple as a reference in many points and the body seems to have the same poorly mobile knees which Iple is now trying to fix in their new bodies (that will now have visible knee joints). In addition she has unnaturally long slim legs, especially lower legs, and I'm not sure if it would start to bug me as a friend of realism. I do like the outfits and extras they offer, especially the corset bust, but it's not really a way of how to choose a doll lol.
       
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    50. Yes. I don't want the body for my Korean ladies but I would love the Yu head! Oh well. They have their reasons I'm sure and at least we now know.