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Rule Update Changes to the criteria for on-topic dolls

Aug 1, 2016

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    1. Hello everyone! We have some exciting new changes for DoA!

      Changes to the Criteria

      We've updated the criteria for doll inclusion:
      • Dolls are no longer required to be humanoid. Animal dolls are now on topic as long as they meet all the requirements.
      • Fashion, baby, and life-sized dolls are now on topic as long as they meet all the requirements.
      • Sculpted hair is allowed as long as it does not interfere with the head's movement.
      • Dolls must still be suitable for nude display, however feet with sculpted shoes are allowed.
      • There are no exceptions for optional parts. It is now possible for individual bodies or parts to be off topic.
      These are just highlights; please read the full post to read the full changes. These new rules go into effect today!

      Updates to the Off-topic Doll List

      All dolls that were on topic before will remain on topic. Some previously off-topic dolls are on topic now – you can see some of them here:
      • Aileen Doll Ashes and other adult dragons
      • Baby Supia
      • Bianca Cyborg Version
      • Bimong Shahti
      • Camellia Dynasty Bean/Bean Jr. (rabbit), Wong (cat), Ling (fox)
      • Camellia Dynasty Sage and Thyme (horses)
      • Cocoriang Peppi
      • Coco Tribe Amber Line
      • Cuartos Mobius and Lell (dragon)
      • Cuartos Darkhorn (version with changeable eyes)
      • Dawn D'onofrio Raven
      • DBDoll Ninan
      • Dikadoll Mianmian (cat)
      • Doll Chateau Carol and Leticia
      • Doll Chateau Madeline and Katherine
      • Doll Chateau Russell
      • Doll In Mind DIM Sweet line dolls with girl body
      • Doll Leaves Lulu (deer)
      • Dollzone Angela
      • Dollzone Big Dipper
      • Dollzone Coral and Eudora
      • Dollzone Dale
      • Dollzone Elephant and Dog
      • Dollzone Pag/Olga (bats)
      • Dollzone Scorpio
      • D-Storic IZI
      • EveTheCat 5cm/10cm Cat (resin version; 3-printed ones are off topic.)
      • Fairyland Hippogriff
      • Goodreau animals (8” and 5”)
      • Iplehouse Pet Doll cat/dog/panther
      • La Maison de ces Garcons Ostin babies
      • Leekeworld Little Bird doll with human/mermaid body (bird body is off topic)
      • Loongsoul Dragon Doggy
      • Lumedoll Zero
      • Luts Zuzu Animal line
      • Mushroom Peddler Sir Octavius Von Tentacle
      • Mushroom Peddler Wonderlings and Mini-Wonderlings
      • Nympheas Dolls Chouchou and Chou
      • Nympheas Dolls Fanny
      • Soom Humpty Dumpty
      • Soom Nappy Choo
      • Soom Zard (dragon)
      • Souldoll Gray
      • Tendres de Chimère Krikrill
      • Tendres de Chimère Zouïe, Al'vin, Sharkhüt-Aïe, Nya (fish)

      We have updated the off-topic doll list. If a doll is on this list, that means that it is still off topic.

      Changes in the Marketplace
      On-topic animal BJDs can be bought, sold, and traded in the Large Dolls, Mini Dolls, and Tiny Dolls sections of the Marketplace.

      Since many animal BJDs are now on topic, off-topic companion BJDs are no longer allowed in the Props & Miscellany Marketplace. Some items are considered props and allowed in the Props & Miscellany Marketplace if they are minimally jointed and do not have jointed arms or legs.

      • Aimerai QT Pets that are unjointed
      • Angell Studio Little Mouse
      • Doll Chateau Faramita
      • Dollpamm Nyanko
      • Dollzone Gugu and Lulu
      • Dollzone Little Bean
      • Domuya Bat
      • Elfdoll Seedlings (Sissy 1, 2 & 3)
      • Gem of Doll Tiny Pets
      • PeaksWoods Monthly Fairy dolls on non-jointed body

      Note that these props are still off topic as dolls, and cannot be the main focus of a thread, post or doll profile.

      By changing and broadening our criteria requirements for on-topic dolls, we hope that many of you will be able to share some of your dolls here, that you weren't able to before. Happy posting!
       
      #1 DoA Mod Squad, Aug 1, 2016
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    2. I am sure this decision will be enjoyed by many :thumbup
       
      #2 Ara, Aug 1, 2016
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    3. Brilliant change! :D
       
      #3 Sakura_LH, Aug 1, 2016
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    4. This is awesome!!!! <3<3<3<3
       
      #4 Arekushia, Aug 1, 2016
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    5. Oh neat! 'Looks like most of my "off-topic menagerie" isn't so off-topic anymore. :lol:
       
      #5 Brightfires, Aug 1, 2016
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    6. Excellent! Wonderful news -- this will make shopping and posting so much nicer!

      One question -- are both editions of Bimong Shahti now on-topic? They have jointed wrists/elbows/shoulders/hips/knees/ankles, are cast in resin, have changeable eyes and wigs, are proportionately-sculpted, and are made by a well-known Asian doll artist (Bimong, who created Narin and Narae.)

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      Previously, I had been told that the first edition (wearing a black non-default wig in the photo) was on-topic, but the second edition (which basically just has different makeup and a slight variation in skintone) was off-topic, because the mods at the time felt like she was being "marketed" as a fashion doll.

      It looks like they meet all the current criteria -- can you please confirm?

      Thanks so much!

      -- Andi <3
       
      #6 Ashbet, Aug 1, 2016
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    7. @Ashbet We'll discuss it and I will post back here with an answer.
       
      #7 Dezarii, Aug 1, 2016
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    8. I am so thrilled with this new criteria decision :thumbup
      When I read the list and saw some of mine had now been included I Squee'd everywhere !!!!
       
      #8 HoneyRyder, Aug 1, 2016
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    9. Thank you!!

      In the meanwhile, happy that my Iple Panther and some of my other dolls are now on-topic ^_^

      :aheartbea
       
      #9 Ashbet, Aug 1, 2016
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    10. Ooh! I'm excited to see pictures of cute animal dolls from now on! :XD:
       
      #10 totoroears, Aug 1, 2016
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    11. Yay! I'm so happy to be able to share my Nympheas Dolls Fanny here now.
       
      #11 dotworkdoll, Aug 1, 2016
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    12. I'm loving that change! A little question though, if I may.

      Does that mean off-topic ones can't have any joints in their arms/legs to be sold on the marketplace, or that they can't have elbow/knee and wrist/ankle joints? I'm thinking of Sakura & Paper bunnies and HoCA Panguin, for example. Those have joints connecting the bodies to the legs (or feet and wings in the case of the penguin), but the legs themselves aren't jointed. Just making sure!
       
      #12 Yuns, Aug 1, 2016
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    13. @Yuns For an item to be sold as a prop in the Marketplace, it can't have movable legs or arms at all. The HoCA Panguin could not be sold as a prop since it has the joint where the legs meet the body. (I will have to see if it could be on topic as a doll.)

      For Sakura & Paper, it depends on the specific bunny. Yuki can be sold as a prop since it doesn't have arms or legs. The rabbits or hamsters that have movable arms or legs cannot be sold in the Marketplace.
       
      #13 Dezarii, Aug 1, 2016
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    14. Thank you for the clarification! I can't say I like that part of the changes, haha. But it is good to know for sure regardless!
       
      #14 Yuns, Aug 1, 2016
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    15. YOU HAVE THAT PANTHER?! :aeyepop: Please, please, PLEASE post pics! :kitty1
       
      #15 CreamPop, Aug 1, 2016
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    16. Yeee-essss, my Iplehouse Bianca Cyborg is finally on topic! As someone who loves collecting robot-themed BJD's and has always appreciated animal BJDs, I am overjoyed at the topicality changes that have been made throughout the years of DoA, this one being no exception!
       
      #16 KittyFields, Aug 2, 2016
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    17. Awesome, my Darkhorn and Big Dipper and allowed now! :D
       
      #17 Quiet and Insane, Aug 2, 2016
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    18. Yay so glad that my scorpio is now on topic!
       
      #18 TwistedRiver, Aug 2, 2016
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    19. I appreciate that you have considered changing the criteria! I was crestfallen when I figured out DC Katherine was off-topic. I am so glad I can add her to my list!
       
      #19 Leadora, Aug 2, 2016
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    20. Awesome news about the animal and fashion dolls now being on-topic!
       
      #20 Lyrajean, Aug 2, 2016
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    21. @Ashbet Bimong Shahti is on topic. :)
       
      #21 Dezarii, Aug 2, 2016
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    22. Glad to hear it. ^_^ Thank you for this!
       
      #22 Sianserais, Aug 2, 2016
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    23. Hey I think this leaves me with only one off-topic doll! That's awesome! :D
       
      #23 VampireAngel13, Aug 3, 2016
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    24. This is really great!

      Would the luts fortune delfs be considered props then?
       
      #24 rianne, Aug 4, 2016
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    25. @rianne Luts Fortune Delfs have shoulder joints, so they would not be considered props. For an item to be considered a prop, the arms and legs cannot move at all.
       
      #25 Dezarii, Aug 4, 2016
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    26. #26 rianne, Aug 4, 2016
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    27. I don't know if this has been discussed before but if I have a resin head (dollmore Mona) and I put her on a jointed on-topic body she becomes on-topic? thanks :)
       
      #27 MarshMellina, Aug 5, 2016
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    28. @MarshMellina Dollmore Mona would still be off-topic, even if the head were on an on-topic body.
       
      #28 Dezarii, Aug 6, 2016
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    29. Yay! That's amazing news! I do have some very off-topic dolls, that are porcelain, but (!) I am excited for all the new doll pictures! :)
       
      #29 Agnia, Aug 7, 2016
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    30. I have a Dearmine Picasso Bean and a few Aileen doll dragons would they be considered on topic?
       
      #30 clangdon, Aug 7, 2016
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    31. @clangdon The Aileendoll dragons are on-topic! c:
       
      #31 rainwaltz, Aug 8, 2016
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    32. I'm so happy the dragons are on topic! I've been dying for a place to discuss them :)
       
      #32 skyealloway, Aug 8, 2016
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    33. Dearmine dolls are still off topic? I'm so glad that the Aileen dragons are finally on topic:dance
       
      #33 clangdon, Aug 8, 2016
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    34. Dearmine Beans are on topic. (I think they were on topic before too.)

      The adult Aileendoll dragons are on topic, but the baby pico ones are off topic.

      @Agnia You can always share off-topic dolls in Brigadoon.

      @Yuns HocA Panguin is on topic. :)
       
      #34 Dezarii, Aug 8, 2016
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    35. Wonderful, thank you very much! I look forward to sharing my Panguin with the forum. :celebrate
       
      #35 Yuns, Aug 9, 2016
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    36. Good changes, thank you!
       
      #36 mir_ox_dolls, Aug 9, 2016
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    37. So there is no nowhere where we can buy and sell Aileen Dragon dolls and other off topic companion pets??
       
      #37 Bears, Aug 10, 2016
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    38. Are Hujoo dolls now allowed or are they still off topic?
       
      #38 Whitestag, Aug 10, 2016
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    39. The adult Aileen dragons are on topic and you can buy or sell them in the Marketplace. Most on-topic animals will probably end up in the Marketplace section for tiny dolls. There is not a place to buy off-topic dolls on DoA.

      @Whitestag The Hujoo ABS plastic dolls are still off topic. I believe there are some resin Hujoo dolls that are on topic.
       
      #39 Dezarii, Aug 10, 2016
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    40. A few months ago I "asked the moderators" if Impldoll Jozo was on-topic and at that time he wasn't because of his armored body. Is he acceptable now? I don't see him on any of the lists.
       
      #40 phanuel, Aug 10, 2016
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    41. @phanuel I will check and get back to you.
       
      #41 Dezarii, Aug 10, 2016
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    42. Could you tell me please if the 25 cm Hujoo resin dolls Kesha, Lily and Mari on topic.

      Also, was it ever decided if the Beju dolls Aadi, Bijan, and Leeann are on topic.
       
      #42 Aeilia, Aug 11, 2016
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    43. @Aeilia The resin versions of Hujoo Kesha, Lily and Mari are on topic. I will check about the Beju dolls.
       
      #43 Dezarii, Aug 11, 2016
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    44. Thank you so much! I'm glad to hear that Kesha is on topic.
       
      #44 Aeilia, Aug 11, 2016
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    45. #45 Dezarii, Aug 12, 2016
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    46. Thank you, mods.
       
      #46 phanuel, Aug 12, 2016
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    47. Thank you.
       
      #47 Aeilia, Aug 12, 2016
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    48. #48 phanuel, Aug 12, 2016
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    49. Good news, support characters play important roles. :)
       
      #49 DollMama, Aug 17, 2016
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    50. so are companion animal props that are 100% un-jointed non allowed anymore?
       
      #50 Bears, Aug 29, 2016
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    51. @phanuel Sorry for not answering your question; I'll have an answer for you soon.

      @Bears Resin animal props that are 100% unjointed are off topic; they have never been on topic. However, they may be shown with on-topic dolls and can be sold in the Props marketplace.
       
      #51 Dezarii, Aug 30, 2016
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    52. Question for mods regarding on-topic animal BJDs. How do we know which section of the marketplace they should be placed in or to search when looking for potential buys? I understand the move in regards to jointing, but would they all be based on size now so most would be found in the tinies section I imagine? Would it make more sense for them to have their own section under the BJD marketplace instead of amongst SD, minis and tinies by possibly adding a section marked animals and creatures?

      Also thank you so much for the all the work you do and these great changes! My hippogriffs are certainly going to be pleased when they get home to know they are on-topic!
       
      #52 Meggethann, Aug 30, 2016
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    53. @Meggethann I understand it's hard to know where they should go. We often say '1/3' or '1/6' but a lot of times the larger dolls are the same scale as the smaller ones, they just represent different ages.

      However it's also hard to separate creatures out from the rest when some share body parts with other dolls. Even if there were a separate section, would you put a hippogriff there if you were selling it with the human parts? Sometimes it's a fine line between whether something's an animal doll or an anthro. We tried separating anthros before and it didn't go well.

      So for now, please use the current Marketplace structure, but we'll keep an eye on it and may reevaluate that if necessary.
       
      #53 Dezarii, Aug 30, 2016
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    54. That makes sense. Hadn't thought about people selling them with the human parts. If I have learned anything with this hobby yet, is I'm always learning. Haha. Never easy to keep anything straight. But that completely makes sense. Thank you for taking the time to answer my question!
       
      #54 Meggethann, Aug 30, 2016
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    55. This is awesome!!!!
       
      #55 Pikulina, Aug 30, 2016
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    56. @phanuel The reptile dolls are on topic. :)
       
      #56 Dezarii, Aug 30, 2016
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    57. Thank you, Leif will be pleased.
       
      #57 phanuel, Aug 31, 2016
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    58. Oh, this is exciting! :D

      Are La Legende De Temps Puzzelfs now on-topic? I think they had been off-topic prior to this due to the sculpted shoes-feet...
       
      #58 Eldurwen, Sep 14, 2016
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    59. @Eldurwen Yes, the LLdT Puzzelfs are On Topic.
       
      #59 idrisfynn, Oct 5, 2016
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    60. Is Eryn from quadrigadolls On topic?
      Here are pics of him from the artist.

      Mea's BJD Salon
       
      #60 SteffiPuschel, Oct 7, 2016
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