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Volks Super Dollfie Cute discussion Part 2

Aug 26, 2017

    1. I went to the Dolpa AfterEvent today so got the staff to help me take off Renee's hands. Turns out I am just an idiot after all - the problem was I just wasnt pulling hard enough. (the slight resistance I met when I tried scared me too much lol). It got ridiculously easy after they demonstrated it to me.
      I picked up these new MSD clothes for my Renee though and now he's a boy. I still can't think of a name though, and I'm still undecided on changing his eyes. Mostly because I still haven't even decided on the eye colour of this OC - I do like the brown though.
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      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIJ4y4pUQAE3ljd.jpg


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      This is now a discussion thread for SDcute. Volks SDC Arashi, Miko, Kurt, Ren, Kaede, Kurenai, Renee, Ryu, Toki, Gretel, Hansel etc.

      Talk about clothes, eyes and wigs that fit.

      Volks SDC Wiki:
      Super Dollfie Cute - DoA BJD Wiki | Den of Angels


      Body comparisons photos:

      Volks Msd hands compared to SDC hands:
      http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?486491-Volks-Msd-hands-on-Sdc&p=8509563#post8509563


      Different types of Sdc hands:
      /threads/volks-msd-hands-on-sdc.486491/#post-11107860


      Volks Sdc Ryu boy next to Volks Msd Boy posing
      http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263423

      Comparison DoC U boy with Volks SDC boy Arashi
      Problems With Volks Super Dollfie Cute Kurenai SdCute


      Sdc boy posing Nudity
      http://www.denofangels.com/forums/s...SDC-boy-body-poses-(NUDITY)&highlight=minifee

      Sdc girl Sora posing body. (warning nudity)
      http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4981751

      Msd head on SDC body
      Volks Msd Head + Sdc Body? Hybrid | Den of Angels

      Volks Yo/MidiVolks on Msd, Midi and Sdc bodies
      http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php/668336-Volks-Yo-Midi-head-on-Msd-Sdm-and-Sdc-bodies

      Sdc Ren and Msd Hisui
      http://www.denofangels.com/forums/s...per-Dollfie-Cute-Girls-HEAD-SWAP!-(Ren-Hisui)

      Comparisons: Lati Blue Boy, Volks Sdc boy, Volks Msd long leg boy, Volks Msd long leg Girl, Yo Tenshi, Volks Msd Boy, Volks Msd girl,
      Serendipity 14 Mini girl, Orient dae Type, Custom House LJ
      Mini Height Confirmations - Please Contribute! - Upd 11/20/10

      Msd and Sdc heads on non volks bodies Hybrids:
      http://denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92612

      Clothes that fit Sdc boys:
      http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?213516-SDC-boy-in-clothes&highlight=sdc*

      Posing Problems with SDcute Kurenai
      Problems With Volks Super Dollfie Cute Kurenai SdCute | Den of Angels
      Problems With Volks Super Dollfie Cute Kurenai SdCute

      Posing head problems Arashi
      Problems With Volks Super Dollfie Cute Kurenai SdCute

      Sdc girl Kurenai measurements
      Problems With Volks Super Dollfie Cute Kurenai SdCute

      SDC Girl Kurenai measurements:

      Height: 16.5"
      Eyes: 16 mm
      Bust: 6.75"
      Waist: 5.5"
      Hip: 7.5"
      Bicep: 2.5"
      Elbow: 2.5"
      Elbow flexed: 3"
      Thigh: 4 3/8"
      Knee: 3"
      Knee flexed: 4.5"
      Ankle 2.5"
      Heel: 3.5" (around heel & front of foot with foot pointed)
      Neck: 3.25"
      Front shoulder width: 2 1/8"
      Back shoulder width: 2 3/8"
      Neck to bust point: 1 3/4"
      Bust point to bust point: 1.5"
      Neck to waist: 3.5
      Back neck to floor: 14
      Front neck to floor: 13.75
      Waist to Floor: 11.5
      Hip to Floor: 10
      Inseam: 8.5
      Girth: 13.25
      Shoulder to Elbow: 2.5
      Shoulder to Wrist: 4.75
      Shoulder to Wrist, Bent: 5.375
      Mid-back Neck to Wrist: 7
      Wig: 7

      Sdc Toki Boy measurements:
      Neck : 8.5 cm
      chest/bust 18.5 cm
      shoulder 9.5cm
      16cm waist
      18.5cm hips


      Sdc Database

      Sdc Sora/Toki Database http://www.denofangels.com/forums/s...-Toki-Sweet-Messengers-of-Sato&highlight=sdc*

      Sdc Kurt Database http://www.denofangels.com/forums/s...g-(Volks-SD16-Amelia-SDC-Kurt)&highlight=kurt

      Sdc Renee Database http://www.denofangels.com/forums/s...ute-(Volks-Super-Dollfie-Cute-Renee-Database)

      Sdc Ryu Database http://www.denofangels.com/forums/s...-Sato-Messenger-a-Volks-SDCute-Ryu-Database-_

      Sdc General Database
      http://www.denofangels.com/forums/s...Ride-of-the-Cute-Brigade-(Volks-SDC-database)

      Where Angels Lie: Great Info about Volks Sdc by Cassiel
      http://www.angelden.net/volks/sdc/index.php

      Volks Mini Super Dollfie discussion Part 2:
      /threads/volks-mini-super-dollfie-discussion-part-2.626601/

      Volks Super Dollfie Midi discussion Part 1:
      /threads/volks-super-dollfie-midi-discussion-part-1.561771/

      Volks Super Dollfie Cute discussion Part 1:
      /threads/volks-super-dollfie-cute-discussion-part-1.16778/
       
      #1 Torino, Aug 26, 2017
      Last edited by a moderator: Nov 14, 2017
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    2. Never thought that Renee would be great as a boy too :) so following the previous thread for Volks wig a YoSD size can fit her? but in other brands the normal 7-8? Still depends with the brands then? :o
       
    3. It seems like it does depend, unfortunately.... I hope someone with a bigger doll collection and wider variety of wig sizes and brands can give some insight. I cautiously believe that other company's 7-8 would be ok and only Volks 6-7 is big enough bbuuut I literally only have Volks and Crobidoll brand wigs to compare. (Volks 6-7: perfect, Crobi 6-7: impossibly small, Crobi 7-8: perfect with a wig stopper, Volks 7-8; haven't tried but feel it'd be big??)

      Also its kinda an honour to have my Renee at the start of this new thread 8'D
       
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    4. I still recommend 7-8 for most SDC heads, preferably with a silicone wig cap underneath. Sometimes you can get a stretchy 6-7 to fit, but it's been my experience that unless it's a Volks Yo-SD/SDC wig, it'll be a little too snug. My SDCs are Kurenai, Gretel, and Mina, and that's been the case for all three of them. The 6-7 wigs I've tried on them that were too snug were from Monique, Luts, LeeKe World, and For My Doll (Fortunately I have some Bunny Nine dolls that can wear those happily~). The Nine9 Style 6-7 wig that came with one of my Bunnies DOES work on the SDCs, as it's a stretchy one. Hope this is helpful.
       
    5. Yep. :< I tried for a second Renee so that I could have a girl as well. They probably only had 1-2 in stock. I decided to try to today and see if I had anything in mind for a girl Renee with the spare clothes/wigs I have (even Mamu's), and they look super cute, but... my Renee can't be anyone but Jules haha. I have a very special connection to this doll and almost feel like having twins would be wrong- edit to clarify: didn't get a Renee on the website. Was thinking about trying second-hand if I wanted a twin. ;;

      Speaking of another Renee boy- here is Jules. Sadly the background was dark so you can't see his ears and I didn't catch daylight when I remembered to take a picture to show my friend (I cut the wig myself. It was too long when I got it. :| Still can't see the detail that well.) I was wondering if I'd like this set from Volks or not, but I did so I placed an order for the girl's red set ha...ha... (I don't even know when I'm going to use it.)

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      #5 pinksugar, Sep 3, 2017
      Last edited: Sep 3, 2017
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    6. Wow, Renee does look good as a boy too. She's got that spunky look that suits either gender.

      It turns out that Volks had the same stock at 2017 LA Dolpa, in terms of hands, that they did for the 2015 event. Just the hands-01 for SDC Girls. Although I had hoped for a full array like is present on Renee's Japan-only owner order form, the hands-01 are still the most useful of the choices if they carried only one style. I went ahead and bought a pair for Renee so she could hold stuff when not doing kitty poses.

      Her hands are easier to change than I initially realized, with the little notch that you set the S-Hook into. I learned how to take them off in order to slide on the wrist cuffs of her default outfit.

      Sadly, because of being physically away from a computer at the LA Dolpa on the selfsame weekend Volks Japan did the Renee clickwar (scheduling!), I wasn't able to try for a second one myself either even though I wanted another of her too ^_^;.

      To follow up on the feet question I had from the previous thread, I got my first SDMidi body and was able to compare directly with Renee's. The bottom of the feet are very nearly identical, so shoes would certainly be cross-compatible. However the ankle joint is fairly different, with SDMidi having a much fatter ankle ball than Renee and the top part of the foot shaped differently to accommodate. Even if the MSD foot might hook onto SDC's ball joint, it'd probably gap enough to look odd. So, yep, I think that's out, just like the pudgy MSD hands don't quite fit SDC's look either.

      I'm really liking Renee so far. I've always wanted an SD catgirl, and her mischief kitty expression puts a smile on my face every time.
       
    7. Wasn't someone here looking for SDC H-03 hands? There's a pair on Mandarake right now for 1500 yen. まんだらけ通販 Hopefully they'll still be there when the person sees this!
       
    8. Volks Msd F-13 (Echo) on (Sdc girl body)
      and Msd Hewitt (on Sdc boy body) dressed as pirates for Halloween.

      Echo wear a 1/6 "pirate of caribbean" shirt/jacket/vest Jacket.
      Her skirt is a "fairy skirt" by @Sylphide .
      Hewitt wears a Tonner Pirates of the Caribbean outfit.

      [​IMG]
       
      #8 ginarolo, Oct 9, 2017
      Last edited: Apr 13, 2018
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    9. I keep seeing an SDC girl on some of the Japanese selling sites, and my iPad translates her name as SDC Sky. Usually the face-ups appear to look as though they might have been re-done, since they never look exactly like any of the SDC default face-ups. I'm having trouble seeing through the face-up to the underlying face-sculpt, so I'm having a hard time figuring out just which one of the SDC girls she actually is! Please, does anyone know who SDC Sky is?
       
      #9 JRyu, Oct 11, 2017
      Last edited: Oct 11, 2017
    10. Sky is the translation for Sora! Where Angels Lie - A Super Dollfie Database - SD Cute
       
    11. No problem, @JRyu. I bought a Sora once for her body (I had purchased a Mina head) and was surprised by how much cuter Sora is in person than in pictures. She has a lovely unique face :) If I’d had the funds at the time to buy another body I probably would have kept her head X3


      Edited to add: I finally got my hands on her ; w ; My Renée's name is Maaya, and she's a redhead!
      Here she is with my other SDC girls.

      [​IMG]
       
      #11 RamenDoodles, Oct 11, 2017
      Last edited: Oct 23, 2017
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    12. My Renee's head actually seems smaller than my other SDC girls'. I haven't taken all their wigs off to compare, but just from trying different wigs on her, it seemed much smaller. Possibly a true 6-7.
       
    13. Ooh that's interesting, I often hear about how big her head is.
      Does anyone in this thread own Renee and 1/4 dolls/heads from other brands? I'd love to see comparisons of anyone has them.
       
    14. Ok, so here are some comparison shots. I didn't include my Mina because I lost her original head cap in a river, and the substitute I made for it is absolutely hideous and likely nowhere close to the proper size :lol:

      Renee | Kurenai | Gretel

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      [​IMG]

      It's true that on the whole, Renée's head is bigger than the other girls'. But the crown of her head, where the wig sits, is smaller. I think the fact that her (human) ears are much higher adds to this. It's funny, even though it looks like Kurenai has the smallest head of the three, I have the hardest time getting smaller wigs to fit on her noggin. Who knows! (Also, Gretel's plate fell off AGAIN as I was taking these pictures :doh)
       
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    15. In the river?! Oh no :c
      Thank you for the pic, though! I didn't realize Kurenai's head looked so small. If Hansel is the same size as Gretel I think he'd look perfect with Renee though.
      But I'm still open to other companies too for my Renee's friend, so does anyone here with SDCs also have any 1/4 dolls from other companies?
       
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    16. Great comparison photos @RamenDoodles.


      Can someone who has an older Sdc girl body compare it to the newer Mina, May or Renee bodies?

      I have been trying to find comparison photos or more detailed photos of the newer Volks Sdc girl body.

      I was reading a Japanese Volks page using a online translator when Mina and May came out.
      SDCute「メイ」「ミナ」ちょこっと改良ボディにつきまして: ボークス VS/VIP ☆ Dollfie Members Blog

      It mentioned the Sdc girl body was updated or improved for Mina and May. But I don't know what those exact changes were.

      If you have the new Sdc body...
      Check out the shoulder or inside shoulder joint and back of knee. The May/Mina body is suppose to be more stable and pose better than the earlier versions.
       
    17. Thanks! Since my Gretel is on an old Renee body and my Mina is on a Sora body, I can look into those comparisons for you. I’ve definitely noticed the new Renee’s shoulder posing is more solid, but I haven’t really looked to see what changed. I’ll look into it tomorrow :)
       
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    18. I'm glad theres more Renees here now! I'm excited to see what gets done with the new ones.
      I got the new hand parts for mine but I've only tried these ones so far.
      [​IMG]
      I also ended up getting the ''boy/girl clasping'' ones...just in case I do end up getting that Gretel ha...ha. (And well, even if I dont, a single doll can use them too - I haven't looked that closely at them but even if one of the hands is meant to be a boys one they dont look that differently sized from my brief look)
       
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    19. @Torino the clasping hands are one male hand and one female hand. The male hand is larger.
      I am reworking my photos of sdc hands slowly as photobucket lost them all.

      But here is one with sdc boy side showing.

      [​IMG]
      Compare for size Msd, Sdc boy Kurt, Sdc joined hands boy side.


      @RamenDoodles Any info/photos about the different with the new SDC girl body would be a great help.
       
      #19 ginarolo, Nov 14, 2017
      Last edited: Apr 13, 2018
    20. @ginarolo Sorry it took me a couple days! Also, apologies for the poor lighting. This is the best I could do :yawn

      So to the comparisons! The only difference I was able to find was in their shoulder joints. First up is the old Renée body, from 2007.

      [​IMG]
      As you can see, just your average ball joint. Nothing fancy.

      Now, here is the 2017 Renée body.

      https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4580/37711615434_e472f35f9f_c.jpg

      There's a little hook in the ball part of the joint.

      Also:
      https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4542/38370398176_2149eb8de1_c.jpg

      Peeling back the KIPS, you can see there are grooves in the socket for that hook in the ball joint to lock into. This is what helps her keep her arms raised (though honestly I feel like the KIPS are almost in the way for this to work...).

      Hope this helps! Sorry again for the lateness.
       
      #20 RamenDoodles, Nov 14, 2017
      Last edited by a moderator: Nov 17, 2017
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    21. @RamenDoodles Bravo! Thank you so much. This is a big help. It's good to know what the improvements are in the shoulder.

      I was hoping there is something else in the knee or leg cause Sdc girls are know for kicky legs. Volks says new legs are more stable.
       
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    22. Glad to be of help!

      The knees are completely the same, but now that I'm looking again, there is a slight different in the thigh joints. Here's the 2007 body:
      [​IMG]

      And the 2017 body:
      https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4540/26650271979_500700f52a_c.jpg

      It's not a new groove but it's much deeper in the newer body. I couldn't get a good shot of the sockets of either doll, but they're exactly the same, save the depth.
       
      #22 RamenDoodles, Nov 14, 2017
      Last edited by a moderator: Nov 17, 2017
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    23. @RamenDoodles, Love seeing your discoveries about the new Sdc girl body. Interesting about the grove on the thigh being deeper.
      Many thanks for your photos!
       
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    24. @ginarolo You're right, there is a noticeable hand size difference. I guess it could be hidden with the right camera angle, but I'm still glad I got it just in case I end up getting a SDC boy as well. I'm tempted by that Hansel since he's been sitting in Mandarake so long and I can see him up close very well (he's in very decent condition), but I'm also wondering what the possibility of Volks releasing a new boy - or rereleading an old one is. I'd like to think the rerelease of that hand part is an indication of future plans but it could also just be coincidence.
       
    25. @Torino I think it's just a coincidence. The optional Sdc hands such as the holding hands were made years ago. Volks releases them every few years. It doesn't mean there might be a new boy. The Sdc boy has a larger wrist ball than the Sdc girl. But with long sleeves you wouldn't notice anything. Hansel is a really handsome head mold.
       
    26. My Renee, Reese, arrived today <3

      [​IMG]
       
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    27. I had a lovely vacation in Seattle this past week, and both Maaya (Renee) and Rica (Mina) got some good relaxation in at a pretty garden.
      [​IMG] [​IMG]
       
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    28. Hi SDC fans! I just got my first SDC (actually first resin Dollfie!), Renee! The Belling the Cat set. I’m wondering if her outfit is known for staining and if I should be worried. I’m used to Dollfie Dreams, and I know resin doesn’t stain as easily, but I’m still a little fuzzy on how worried I should be. Can any Renee owners (or anyone with advice!) help out? Thank you!
       
    29. Hi, I also got SDC Renee as my first resin fullset after being used to Dollfie Dreams. They dont stain in the same way that vinyl does - most of what happens seems to be superficial discolouring on the surface of the resin, unlike with vinyl where the stain penetrates deeply. (I have heard of deep stains happening on resin dolls but its less from clothing and more from ill-advised faceup materials such as sharpies)
      That said, I used the socks the outfit came with for a long time and they did kinda stain her (well, his, mines a boy) legs, but again, not in the way a DD stains. The stains were mostly around the joint part of the knees, and after some light buffing with a magic eraser, came right out.
      I didnt have the rest of the outfit on for a prolonged period, but I imagine its similar. If you are worried I would just be sure to check it now and then. But I am also curious about other peoples experiences.

      also @RamenDoodles , Renee is super cute with that hair colour!

      I also hope everyone voted for SDCs in the anniversary poll. I would really like Ryu to get rereleased so I was voting for him every day. I would rather he get a rerelease than buy him second-hand because I prefer Volks recent faceup style.
       
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    30. @Torino Thanks! It suits her well n_n

      @kellyemm I've had SDCs for over 12 years, and I've never had a staining problem from any type of clothing. My Renee wore the default outfit for a few days, so not a long period of time, but it didn't do anything to her. I've had dolls wear black, red, navy blue, and dark purple - never a problem. And like Torino said, if you do notice some discoloration, a quick scrub with a Magic Eraser will likely do the trick.

      (Off topic, but I'm the opposite of you guys - I've had resin dolls forever, and when I got DDS Sailor Moon, she was my first vinyl! I'm paranoid she'll stain, ack! My boyfriend has quite a few Dollfie Dreams, and he's telling me not to panic, but I feel like a new doll owner and I can't help myself.)

      But yes! Resin dolls, Volks/SDCs in particular, are pretty hardy against clothing stains. I'd be more wary of wig staining, but even then, the stain is under the wig, so it doesn't seem like that big of a problem to me.
       
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    31. @Torino @RamenDoodles thank you both so much! This puts my mind at ease. Just real quickly, on the topic of the Dollfie Dreams staining, invest in that skintone tape - it really helps. I put a pair of Dollhearts shoes on Sheryl for 3 hours and the red logo stained the bottom of her feet very lightly. Not the worst thing but it can happen, especially in humid climates!

      Thanks again for calming me down - I’ll keep checking for discoloration, but it’s good to know it won’t necessarily happen over night, and even then it’s pretty easy to fix.

      I definitely voted for the SDC! I really love this size. Fits so well in bags to carry around with me!
       
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    32. @Torino I know I was voting for SDC boys every day! There's no boy in particular I'm dying to own that we don't already, but I'm still heavily invested in new SDC releases in general because I love the size so much, and it's been ages since a release. I'd love to see an updated SDC boy body like the newer SDC girls.
       
    33. @ekala I’d LOVE to see more SDC boys! When was the last time one was released? Eons ago?
       
    34. @kellyemm Hansel in 2011 was the last boy released - so by my count, absolutely eons haha
       
    35. Trying a little navy-black wig I had lying around in SDC size - I’m in LOVE with Renee! She’s just such a cutie!

      [​IMG]SDC Renee by Kelly Murray, on Flickr
       
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    36. I didn't realize a pt.2 thread had formed! Joining in with my Renee too... This was a test of her Chii wig and eyes I made for Resin Rose. One of these days I'll do a proper photoshoot with my nice camera to show off the full costume.

      [​IMG]
       
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    37. She's precious!! Love her whole look and the Chii wig.
       
    38. Does anybody know Mina's head measurements in cm?
       
    39. I was about to go looking for my measuring tape but then went DUH my Mina doesn't have her actual headcap anymore :doh (we made a new one out of epoxy since her cap now resides somewhere at the bottom of a river...)

      I was always able to get stretchy 6-7 wigs and smaller 7-8 wigs to stay on her head using a silicone wig cap prior to the accident, if that helps at all :sweat
       
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