Shelling Trans OCs

Yeah, a trans doll shelled in the "wrong" body is all kinds of No.

 

I have one failed attemt at a non-binary character. The doll turned out to be something entierly different than what I had planned. A horned genderles creature instead. Maybe in the future I'll come up with something.

 

Well that depends on the person owning the doll. Maybe they feel differently. People think being transgender = having to transition, but some people have personal reasons why they can't or don't want to transition. For someone it may be financial, or medical reasons that would put their lives at risk. Could be other reasons as well. The feeling of being in the wrong body and the dysphoria is there but not all people can.

I have my own reasons why I would not be able to transition. I have to live with this dysphoria. And one way I cope with it is wanting to have a doll that is like me. An assigned female at birth character, who experience dysphoria but can't transition. It pains in the heart, and I just want one doll that is like me and goes through what I go through. I would very much love to have top surgery to get rid of some of the dysphoria at least, but because of my health conditions and probably being at higher risk of forming blod clots, I just am too scared too.

For us who are not able to transition for personal realsons, there are things that people think about being transgender that makes us feel less valid. It hurts a bit.. But there are actually many ways to be transgender, no transgender person are the same.

Hope you don't mind that I informed a bit?

 

True this! The way I was taught, "the minute someone says they don't feel like their birth gender, they are trans." That's what I was taught at my local LGBT+ center when I began volunteering there.

One of my incoming dolls is one of those that can't transition because of circumstances. (He's a Jedi, and the Empire and the wars and whatnot....) He's going to bind and wear clothes that hide his body shape, for example. He's already changed his name to a more masculine one, but face it, hormones aren't as available during a war.

Ryu

 

Yedis are cool, they definitely have my favourite outfits and weapons in scifi moves and series Yeah it probably would be difficult to transition during a war. Been watching Star trek Discovery lately. But nothing beats being a Jedi!

 

I'd definitely consider it, why not! I would feel very uncomfortable shelling a trans girl in a male body or a trans guy in a female body though, even with modifications, because I'm not trans myself and wouldn't want to be insensitive.

 

That's understandable I guess. But most of us won't bite a persons head off if they choose to make a trans character that for some reason have not transitioned. There are many ways to be trangender so any non-transitioned characters are fine by me. What is most important is that you understand the character

 

Oh definitely! I just wouldn't want to create a character that's offensive. Thank you!

 

I'm a little late to the thread but several of my dolls are non-binary. I make my own dolls for the most part and I'm non-binary myself so that's how I tend to make them. I'm really glad there are other people out there creating trans dolls

 

Pretty new to thew forum still but its cool to see a topic like this openly discussed. I'm currently trying to make a doll that is gender-fluid. With all the extra bodies and parts to swich around freely. Wouldn't that be something

 

goodness, have my answers changed since I first entered this thread! Realizing I was nb sure meant I ended up putting that into my characters, so it's likely more and more of my characters are going to end up on this list as I keep writing them, and exploring my own identity. I'd previously just cis-defaulted my dolls when I was also cis-defaulting myself, even when I was writing a lot of queer characters in terms of sexual and romantic orientation. All my dolls are somewhere under the queer umbrella, but specifically for trans and nonbinary dolls we have:

-Venestus (agender, they/them) rocking the very androgynous twigling a-bust/long torso/short thigh

-Coris (bigender, they/them) on the same body but with short thighs and the b-bust

-Valentine (non binary femme lesbian, he/him) rocking the old supergemF body. He's absolute gender goals, and I shamelessly project onto him. I'm using him to see how I feel about he/him for me.

-Lex (demiboy, they/he) rocking the Supergem M

-Khestri (trans woman, she/her) works incredibly well on the Ringdoll Teen sunshine body, because the pecs are sculpted too low, and really look like small breasts, and I really like the waist. This also, handily, made her the same height as Coris!

-Mal (genderqueer I think, she/they/he): modded doll chateau 70cm to have small breasts. They wear their gender like its drag, and are lowkey also gender goals.

-Acyra (trans woman, she/her) she's on a 73cm loongsoul body I'm modding to fit her character. Also horns, wings and a tail, because she's a dnd character

-Vidania (literally a self-insert, half the time, is a nonbinary lesbian, and in common uses she/her and ve/ver/vis which is reflective of the non-gendered pronoun for a soul in her native language) just on my heck of a mod project Resinsoul 60 body--also a dnd character, hence the other language. I very much am using ve and Ash to test out how I like using neopronouns for myself, a lot like Val lets me see how I like using he/him

-Ash/Astoreth (non-binary, xenogender, ve/ver/vis) Az is a fallen angel, who considers vis gender as angel, which celestial society as I write them have several different sets of pronouns, Ash uses the soul-reference pronoun because ver start as an angel was as a soul that ascended. Ve also doesn't mind they/them when ve needs an easier pronoun in translation, but ver preference is strongly ve/ver/vis-- you may see me use other pronouns/a different name for ver in older posts--this is something I just figured out for ver character that I want to use ve/ver/vis today. Anyway, ve's on the Dollstown 18yrs F body

-Vesuvius (transmasc nonbinary, he/him) I don't yet have a body for, but I'm looking for a long, slender body either like the twigling body Ness uses, like Mal's DC 70, like the Resinsoul 70, or like the miracledoll bodies (I think the way the 68/70's chest joint looks it would be easy to blush into top surgery scars somehow--it doesn't really matter what the assigned sex of the body is, because I'm modding it to suit him as long as the height and build work.)

Bonus characters:
-Amor feels like she's probably another nb lesbian, but I haven't written her enough to know 100%
-Mora doesn't feel like a cis woman, but I haven't written them properly in years, so I don't know what their gender is yet, until I've experimented a bit in their pov.

 

For me, I've only put sexual orientation on my dolls, then I have characters that are supposed to be genderless but shapeshifting beings, magical or paranormal.

I can't get myself to make real life trans characters as I'm not doing so well with how things are for me. I just find myself live as if I'm not genderdysphoric. Does it work, no... But I still want to deny I ever had to end up with the dysphoria. So no trans characters for me.

 

I have one firmly trans doll (and a few that are a 'maybe, depending on the version of their story'). He has a female body, but that's through a series of changes.

The character was originally male. I later tried turning him into a trans woman, and bought the doll version during that period, so a feminine body felt normal. But down the line, it just didn't feel right for this character to be female, so he went back to being a man, and since I still liked the doll, he became a trans man (which... actually worked really well and solved a bunch of things in his story.

With the right clothes, the shape of the body doesn't really show (it's a body with small, though still present, breasts), but it's something I have to take into account when dressing him, which feels fitting, since he lives in a setting where medical, and especially surgical transition is not available.

 

I've thought a lot about this, honestly mostly in regards to one particular doll -- despite my intentions, she's morphed into my gf's mini-me... and since my gf is trans, I've definitely thought about doing some mods to make her more accurate.

For me though, and for my gf, it's definitely a mixture of "having this be anatomically accurate would be great because it's me" and also "I don't necessarily know that I need to see the doll's bits, so does it matter"?

I'm thinking what I will likely do is mod the breasts at least, to be a more realistic shape / size... also something the gf has expressed interest in, so her doll mini-me will likely have matching boobs to her, at least, haha.

 

My transgender Padawan (Jedi apprentice) boy finally made it home! As you can see, he's a WIP. I'm kind of dreading making his Jedi robes.


Vhei-wen gets his Jedi braid by Ryuichi Sakuma, on Flickr

Ryu

 

He's so neat! His Saber glows??? Aaah

 

Thank you!

Yes, its one of a pair of lightsaber chopsticks I found on Amazon.

Ryu

 

I'm creating a doll right now that I would like to be gender fluid! I think they will look good as either gender and I am really excited to get a sample printed out so I can play around with the different faceups and clothing.

 

Christelle (my Feeple65 Angela Type 2) is transgender. It's somewhat relevant to her story, playing into a bit of an existential crisis with an unhappy relationship. She's been on HRT for many years, with several cosmetic procedures, but no bottom surgery. I thought about having her modded to reflect that, but I only have a regular faceup artist; no modders or body blushers, and I'm always terrified of sending my dolls to anyone new.

She no longer has a doll form (F65 Chloe suited Faye much better), but Sage's partner, Paprika, an independent escort in a cyberpunk future, is also transgender, and views her body as a bit of a canvas—a very stylish, elegant woman with lots of luxe, cybernetic cosmetics and implants. If you know anything about the Cyberpunk 2020 tabletop universe, you can probably envision what she might look like.

While she's not exactly transgender, Rose, another character in the same universe, but a different narrative, is someone I'd really like to dollify if I could find someone willing to make her visible cybernetic implants come to life (both legs, an arm, bits of cyberwear on her face). Among these is, well... a mechanical phallus, in place of her girly parts, to keep it simple and safe for this forum. No dysphoria or anything like that; just something she wanted, but also plays into related themes, albeit from a transhumanist perspective.

Pretty, high femme, stylish, and cool—when it comes to personal tastes and narrative writing, that's all that physically matters to me in a woman. Genitals are a big who cares.

 

I ended up with a trans character through an initially unfortunate series of events, but I'm glad I did. I had my doll story all written and planned out before I had dolls for all the characters. There was this one character, a man in his 20s, for whom I had already chosen a shell. It was a doll the artist was working on for 2 years until the project got cancelled due to a force majeure. There was no other male doll I wanted to shell him as, and at that point he had long been the last character missing in that story and it was starting to frustrate me. I hadn't really been prepared for the fact that the preorder could get cancelled because I had been in quite close contact with the artist all that time.

There was this female doll I liked very much, and I was able to get her 2nd hand from a friend without any wait, so instead of waiting if the preorder will happen again in undefined future, I decided to just flip that boy's story around and made him a female who was born in a male body and at some point underwent surgeries. I did not add any "mandatory traumatizing events" or any single thing in her past or try to explain any single reason as to why she did that, and it is not a focus in her story at all. I kept all her personality details and story the same as it was for the male character. Only thing that changed, perhaps without me trying to change it, was her style: when she was planned as a male, I always envisioned the doll in black gothic clothes and heavy makeup. As a girl, however, she has taken to wearing pastel tones, cheerful colour wigs and pretty high heels. I mean she's the only girl I have that can wear those cute sd16 size heels I've been shopping off Taobao, so let's allow it to her.

 

Hope my post earlier does not come across in the wrong way, but not all who suffers from gender dysphoria are able to come to terms with that this is how things are...

In my situation things feel complicated and messy, and I'm not sure what to do, nor do I know if I'm able "to" even though the dysphoria hurt very much. One one side, health-wise I have to think about my own safety, but on the other side I really want the upper part of my body which I can't name, gone because it makes me most uncomfortable!


But as of right now I feel the need for a trans character like myself. I guess it is a roller-coaster how I feel when it comes to all of this But at the moment I haven't had any plans for quite some time.

 

I have one character in my BJD story that has already been in transition. I solved it by attaching a female body (with wider shoulders and narrower hips) to the originally male head. Karen (Soom Chrom head + Granado nuevo female body, sm. br.) is very original and hot.

 

Honestly, I'm such an escapist that I would shell any trans characters in the body sculpt of their gender! Although I do understand that some people prefer the realism, or maybe they find it cathartic and more affirming of their bodies. Kudos especially to people who have the patience for modding! It's really lovely to see the variety of trans experiences reflected in our dolls!

 

I prefer the realism, as you say, @electrospecter.

Vhei-wen will have his chest bound underneath his Jedi robes. He already has a packer since I needed to find a use for the horn that he came with anyways.

Ryu

 

Ah, shout out to everyone who can't physically transition, for various reasons. I'm in that boat too.

Honestly, I'd most likely put my trans OCs in to the proper body, ie. their respective identity, though I'd buy some of them as-is, and hybrid or mod (like sanding the bust down to create a flat chest) for others. Currently, the doll I'm waiting for (a DZ Little Rain) won't need any modifications because of the body shape (thank goodness lmao, I hate all the dust it'd make otherwise).

There are so many varying experiences when it comes to being trans/nonbinary/etc, and I like that the world of BJDs offers so many possibilities when it comes to shelling our characters.

 

Not exactly a trans OC but I asked this question to myself in the past with a gender fluid OC.
I never got to embody this character in the end cause my resin family took a different direction, but they were officially born a female with a certain medical condition that prevented female characters to show (and also had a personality disorder due to trauma) and I had my doubts about choosing a body for them.

I'm not trans myself but have a trans friend who is in the process of transitioning and I talked with them about this character. Taking into account that I like my human characters as realistic as possible, they agreed with me in that starting with a not too feminine female body and making a few modifications seemed the way to go in my case, but it is a very personal matter, I think.

 

I've never thought about it, but that's a good idea! I'm trans myself, and I like both ideas (of having a doll with a post-transition body, or having a doll that hasn't/won't transition). I think the normalization of trans bodies through BJDs is a great thing.

 

Me! (I am also trans), it really depends on the character. I have a boy who has a dollfie dream body coz I don’t see him as wanting top surgery, I am also planning a hybrid doll but he’s taking time for the plans coz I want him to be tan and that presents more challenges with swapping parts OTL

 

I'm glad to see such threads exist here!!

I am a trans man and I am currently looking into making several trans dolls, each at different stages of transition. At the moment, my ideas are a trans man who is fully post op- one that I will draw each scar on- and a fully pre op man. The second is more likely at the moment as I am not very practiced with my painting and I have already had a word with Resinsoul about their doll/doll head combos. I would also like to try my hand at sanding down a character's breasts but I am worried about sanding too much and ruining a really expensive doll XD

 

I’ve done a ton of chest mods! If you sand down too much, it’s super easy to get a little bit of milliput and resculpt the chest. I’ve modded chests onto a couple of flatter-Chested bodies, and sanded down and resculpted the chest on another.

 

Ah, that would be a great help! Thank you Now I have no excuses to not go ham on my poor dolls XD

 

In the beginning of the hobby I didn't view the dolls as abstract representations of the characters and instead very literally was planning out their transitions in my head, so the body looking like it "should" at the stage of transition they were in was important to me. I wanted multiple bodies for each stage, which is frankly expensive and I had to realize it's just not how I enjoy playing with my dolls. I don't change them to different bodies much, so there's no point. So now, I'm a lot less literal-minded and just focus on the aesthetics. If they're a girl they're a girl regardless of the body they have, and they go on a body that fits their silhouette the best, regardless of what's underneath their clothes.

 

There's a seller on Etsy that sells BJD STL files and one of the "add-on" files is of a chest with top surgery scars!

I don't have any dolls that the characters are trans or nonbinary, but I have a few "on paper" characters that are nonbinary and/or trans. It would be interesting to have a doll that as that kind of story, especially for me. I'm starting to branch out in that aspect of character making so a trans or nonbinary doll wouldn't be too far out of my way.

 

Recently, one of my DnD characters came out as trans. I, as DM, kinda wrote it on impulse—I’d read some really meaningful headcannons on how another DM wrote him as trans, and how that altered the storyline, and I liked that better than anything I had planned for the character, so I made him trans.

the problem was, I had already dyed a feeple60 body to match his head. And this character canonically binds, so the feeple60 chest was way too big to work for him. So I sanded his chest down, and got to work sculpting, and I’m really happy with him now. He was my first ftm mod, and I really like him. I’m also happy he got to be on a shorter body than would have been available if I’d gone for a doll body that was already assigned male.

 

I’m in the midst of planning one out! His character needs some more planning but I’m likely going to buy an androgynous body for him but it really depends on what I find and which bodies I like

 

I have three trans-spectrum characters as dolls so far.

Percy is trans-masculine and he is on a boy body. I never bothered modding surgical scars or anything because I didn't feel confident in my skill level and the character is usually clothed anyway. Percy is from a historical fantasy where you could pass as male just by changing clothes and cussing a bit (True story from the Napoleonic wars xD "cusses a lot, probably a guy!")

Temir is AMAB and identifies as agender (he/it pronouns). He doesn't really have a medical transition, so he is on a boy body.

621 is... ambiguous in origin (amnesia and covered in scars and answers "catheter" if you ask about the pants situation) and identifies as agender. They have a boy body because their body type is noodle.

Ironically, the one doll I have that does have a body that needed to be modded to match their gender is cis. Kergat is built like a brickhouse and no femme bodies fit the bill so I have a buff male body that I modded to have boobs.

 

i think it would depend entirely on the character i was trying to shell! for some characters, it might be more appropriate to use a body that matches their ASAB, but for others it might be better to go with one that matches their actual gender.

as a trans person myself, i honestly feel it would be cathartic to start with a body that matches the ASAB and then mod it to match the character's desired body. as someone who is currently seeking out gender-affirming care, i feel like i'd enjoy the process (even though i know it can be very nerve wracking to start carving and such in a way it mirrors the emotions i'm experiencing right now!). if i wasn't going to do that then i'd probably personally just rather give them their preferred body from the start, but i also can see how having a doll with an ASAB body could feel affirming. i also have characters who are trans but choose not to physically transition, so if i were to shell one of them, i'd just pick one that matched them best!

i don't currently have any dolls who would need any sort of physical transition, so that's all hypothetical for now. perhaps in the future?

 

At present, I don't have an on-topic trans doll-- there's one I'm hoping to bring to resin 'life' where I am getting the male body and just... ignoring it if he happens to have any kind of sculpted genitals. Since I don't really plan on taking any pictures of him undressed, it doesn't matter, his face and how he'll be styled is all that matters to me. But there's another character who's been a floating head for ages because I really need him to have a specific body, I want him to be a hefty, wide-hipped guy, I want him to feel kind of like... well, me, in some ways!

 

Shelling a trans OC in a male/female doll depends completely in what state of transition your OC is in, at least for me.

I have several trans/non-binary OC's and currently one shelled into a doll, which has a male body because he's gone thru transition (hormones, top surgery and stuff like that). His genitals I see as a packer. I don't feel comfortable enough to sand it off (or sand off breasts on a female body etc), but I have considered making that kind of part myself and switch it out.

I don't think this kind of thing has to be linear, bjd's are customizable for a reason and you van do whatever you want with them to match what you have in mind for them.

 

As a trans man myself, I've had this discussion a lot with one of my characters who, admittedly, is pretty much a vector for me and my experiences, and I've been torn for a while on wanting to shell him onto a more feminine or masculine body. My dream is to ideally find a nicely androgynous body, as he has breasts and does not intend to have top surgery but has also medically transitioned in other ways resulting in a less "feminine" body shape compared to many sculpts. It's also a bit difficult as he has a twin sister as well, and I want them both to have close to the same body while still showing his transness..... It's important to me to feel represented especially within a character so important to me and so this has been a very long process lol

 

I've never tthouht about it but I think it's a really good idea to create an oc like that. In fact I've never seen one trans doll until I saw the pictures in this topic.

 

I have a transmasc doll, I shelled him with a male sculpt and male head since it feels more appropriate to what his body would be like. But he has a detachable phallus so he’ll wear it or not based on the vibes, which is a nice feature for me since it feels more like an irl packer and it’s a bit less cis feeling.

 

Back in the day (like 2009-2011). I remember seeing a few people on her ask about mods to make their dolls trans. Now it seems to have really grown, and even companies make bodies that are 'neutral' so you can style them either way. Because there is so much variation in transgender people its nice to see that diversity people put in their dolls.

I don't have any trans dolls (yet). Because I kinda let my dolls build them self rather then get dolls to shell characters I already have now.