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SartoriaJ Mini

Jul 18, 2019

    1. I couldn't find a thread for these guys, so here we go! The fabulous Jude sculpt by SartoriaJ has been made in two mini sizes (shown on IH FID body).

      Lestat LE Jude
      Admiral LE Jude

      I've wanted a Jude since I saw a client's, but I don't have space for a big guy. Needless to say, I pretty much jumped on the chance for a 5-6 version. Anyone else ordered?
       
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    2. I ordered one in 5-6 as well. I had wanted to avoid making a specific OC as doll, then had decided to maybe go with fashion size because I was getting tired of SDs...and then shortly afterwards he was released, so I guess it's fate.
      Gonna put him on a Racoondoll body and hope the match is alright. I had wanted to go for a Iplehouse Leonard FID before, and those fit well on Raccoon, so I would assume the Jude will as well.

      He's going to be the dark haired, big guy:
      [​IMG]

      Hope I can get his husband (the one with the goatee) as FID one day as well :D
       
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    3. @Ara Oh he looks awesome! It felt like fate to me as well. Jay's sculpts have that IH polish but feel somehow... creatively unleashed? the world opened up by FID/Racoondoll is making me super happy. I just don't have space for the big guys at this point, and this smaller scale is so great to handle.
       
    4. That would be awesome if the Raccoon bodies would work for Sartoriaยดs MSD heads. Since they are separately available.
       
    5. Yeah agreed @Ashemanu . I imagine racoondoll will work fine since Sartoria's heads have multiple s-hook slots, which should make them easy to hybrid in general. I'm going for the FID model body, but hoping to adopt one.

      @Ara I neglected to say yesterday, but your big dude's shirt is amazing and I want one. <3
       
    6. I grabbed one as well--I've already got a peach gold FID vamp Claude, so they can share the body for a bit, I think! Very excited to try faceups on such a teeny head.

      @Ara Your art is amazing! Very excited to see what you do with the head.
       
    7. I feel that about the bigger size. I do have the space, technically, and I still really like big dolls. But they are not only expensive, they are also a pest to handle and buy props for. And since with these two characters I actually would like to do photo stories or own bigger props, do dioramas and co. going with SD+ just seemed insane. So I'll give the fashion ones a try. They have the same aesthetic in the end after all, so I just hope it works out :abambi:

      Aaah, it's not mine! Sadly :lol:
      The painted one is by my girlfriend Reconisan (the guy on the right with the goatee is hers), and the sketches are by Vermillionsketcher. The guy on the left was my Medic OC/loadout from Team Fortress 2 once before I turned him into an own OC, so I got a ton of commissioned/gift art of him. Unfortunately I can't draw myself at all.

      @Ashemanu:
      Hey dear! :D
      And I agree, I hope it works. I want my Jude to be bigger than a FID, and since Raccoon is bigger and works with FID I just cross my fingers. Technically there should be no reason for it not to work, if FID and Raccoon are a match.
      I will take pictures once I managed to get the body as well.
       
    8. @Ara Yeah, I adore my two remaining big girls, but between the convenience of the smaller size and the whole world of props (and I already have a 1:4 diorama haha) this is too good to pass up. I'm getting back into sewing and into wig making too, and this is a great size for that. I might finally take a doll outside too. The big ones are just too much for me to lug around.
       
    9. Nearly all of mine are 70cm :sweat
      Only got one YoSD and a SD10 that are smaller (not counting the four pet dolls/weird critters). I love the presence of the big dolls and they look really "bamf", but I'm so tired of how much of a hassle they are when it comes to actual "playing" (like taking pictures, dioramas, taking them around for pictures).

      I'm just glad more and more companies, and especially ones with an aesthetic that I already adored, are jumping onto the fashion train.
      I hope I will actually like the size though once I own it. Regular MSD sized dolls never clicked with me.
       
    10. @Ara Yeah, this time last year, I had a whole Dollshe-based big crew. The only 'regular' slim mini I've managed to hang onto is my rescue narae (and that's half a matter of her being such a rescue and half tribute to Bimong's work). Shifting my big dollshe arsene to a fashion arsene was the proof for me that literally downsizing this aesthetic works, so I hope Jude suits you! He's a great sculpt and super fun to paint, so I can't wait to see your work.

      There's definitely a world of difference in terms of presence between human proportioned fashion scale and the more cartoony/doll-like (for lack of a better term lol) 1/4 dolls. I do find that forced perspective is a bit more work with these little guys, but I'm also more aware of that so I get better shots with the fashion scale. Kind of odd how that works.
       
    11. Hi! Iโ€™m thinking of getting Jude but in the 6-7โ€ size so he would work with my Youpla girls. Would use an Iple FID body for him though, and he would share a body with an Iple head as Iโ€™m planning to venture more into FIDs as well. But - Iโ€™m having doubts about the size now and wondering if I should just get a 5-6โ€ head and forget about the Youpla storyline...

      Anyway, love this sculpt and have been admiring it as a bigger version, heโ€™s perfection
       
    12. Hello everybody, I really like SartoriaJ's work, definitely going to low-key stalk this thread, especially now that they're making FID sized heads.

      @Maria I happen to have both a Ziya and an FID Claude, I never thought of putting them side by side because of their height difference โ€” if they were human sized Ziya would be 1m52 and Claude 1m96 โ€” but they actually make a nice father and daughter combo, which is a very welcome surprise.
      Please don't mind the bald naked people, I can't wait for the holidays to finally have the time to make them wigs and clothes
      [​IMG]
       
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    13. @Litzski Thanks! That is actually quite extreme! Thanks so much for the pic! There are couples with a huge height difference in real life but that just may be a little too much... hmmm.
       
    14. Ooooo. He is handsome. I'm worried his head would look too small with the typical msd girls who tend to have 7-8 heads. Most male dolls like this do have tiny heads sadly :(. Does anyone know if this would be the case with Jude or if he'd work with a vito or even dream valley body? Something like that.
       
    15. Thanks for that comparison @Litzski ! That's definitely a massive age as well as height difference. She always looks young, but she looks really young next to him haha.

      @KSTWrites This type of doll is relatively human proportioned, though still exaggerated, so it definitely will look odd with the very cartoony type of doll. It's not just size, it's the over-all style and proportion. I can also say, having painted and handled both, that Jay's independent heads are even more human-scaled than the IH heads (he does smaller eyes etc). Anyway, point being, the long and thin limbs, undersized hands and feet etc that go with the large-headed cartoon type aesthetic will look bizarre with this head because it's a totally different style. Vito is proportioned too large I think. Even FID heads (which are similar to the 6/7 jude) look wrong as you can see here. If that link doesn't work (flickr has been weird lately) just google "iplehouse fid souldoll vito."
       
    16. Wow. That is quite the difference! Thanks for showing me. Oh well. Not a total loss. There are other sculpts out there :).
       
    17. I got the Jude head in 5-6โ€, Amber Beige, so excited! Getting him an Iplehouse FID body at some point.
       
    18. The MSD Jude head was offered in two sizes, the typical 5-6 the fashion dolls use and 6-7 which should fit with Vito, ID51,etc. I ordered one of each size.
       
    19. My msd Yvonne head arrived yesterday)

      Thinking about her character)
      [​IMG]
       
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    20. Do you think they're going to release the other sculpts in msd size as well? I really love Zakary, and the new girl Yu, but I'm trying to avoid getting any more sd-sized resin dolls.
       
    21. She looks great. I bet with a face up she will look fantastic.
       
    22. @Reinameron Oh she's stunning!

      Still waiting on a body for my Jude, and then I'll spam you guys. I have FID girls too if y'all want to see him in photos with any of them (carina, lahela, modded miho; I made profiles for all of them if you want to see their coloring/etc).
       
    23. I got my Yvonne a few days ago:

      [​IMG]Yvonne Bounty Hunter by Ashemanu, auf Flickr

      The face up is nice, but I donยดt get the "Bounty Hunter" vibe from it. Her name is Viper, but she looks a bit fangless to me. So she is on her way now to my favorite face up artist to get a little make over. And after that, with a proper wig, she hopefully will look a bit more dangerous ;)
       
    24. Jude with Carina, please? :D
       
    25. @Ashemanu She is sweet looking, but very lovely! It looks like Jay switched over to the new moist resin for these girls, is that right?

      @monkeypizzasonic Sure thing!
       
    26. @rianne Sweet nails it - unfortunately. Well, sweet will be gone soon, I hope ;) Hm, her skintone matches the Iple NS FID body perfectly, so I think itยดs still the old resin - fortunately in this case, since I bought the body specifically for her.
       
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    27. Sadly in the end my Jude has to go, but I took pictures of him with the guy that replaces his face, a FID Lawrence.

      Here are some comparisons in case they help.
      First, the Jude on the Raccoon Doll boy I had intended for him at first, next to a full FID Lawrence:

      [​IMG]

      Comparison Lawrence and Jude heads:

      [​IMG]

      [​IMG]

      Here together with the Raccoon Doll Henry I received with my Raccoon Body:

      [​IMG]

      And their headcaps. Raccoon and Iple are as expected a perfect match (or, 99% perfect), which is another reason why I went with Lawrence for the body in the end.
      The warm ivory from Sartoria is a a lot more yellow and creamy, while the other two are pink. To be honest, I wish the doll would have this warm ivory color now! I highly prefer it over the pinkish tones.

      [​IMG]

      On the Raccoon body the head fit nicely in proportion and fit, just the skinmatch was waaaaaay off. You could blush him to match though, just ramp up the pink, or maybe even give him a short dye bath.

      I'm kinda sad I have to sell him, Jude is a really pretty head and I love the sculpting as well as resin quality. Maybe I will get a big one instead one day :wiggle
       
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    28. @Ara - Nice comparison shots! Thanks for doing them. I didn't realize how similar Jude and Lawrence were...(and I own both in the big size) :chibi
       
    29. To add to the references, I have a peach cream Jude on the peach gold IH FID. As with all the colors, Sartoriaj is more yellow in tone. I'm going to blush my guy, so I wanted to do this before he looks perfect.

      [​IMG]
       
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    30. Interesting @Ara & @rianne. Thank you for sharing them.

      I hadn't realized just how closely they look. And like Luluna said, I own both.

      I bought the 1st Jude in amber beige and he matched the Iple color fine. When I got the 1st Zak last year in the same color Amber beige, Zak was different. He was more olive color.

      [​IMG]
      These are the big heads. I hope it's alright. If not. I'll delete.
      I definitely got to get me a Henry.
       
      #31 Bren, Feb 6, 2020
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    31. @Bren Oh wow, that's a big difference! I painted one of the first wave of big Judes, but I didn't have any IH resin to compare him to at the same time, so thanks for this.

      I think I'm going to end up repainting this guy, but here's Illya with a quick and messy look all put together finally (haven't managed to put a shirt on him, but I'm blaming IH for that).

      I'll take a picture of him with my Carina too. If anyone else wants him next to a different FID girl, just let me know. ^^

      [​IMG]
       
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    32. I was actually surprised at the difference myself.

      WOW. You are going to repaint him? That's too bad. He's one of the best Jude I have ever seen. By far my favorite. I love him. WOW.

      I love his eyes and wig, did you make them or were they bought?
       
      #33 Bren, Feb 10, 2020
      Last edited: Feb 10, 2020
    33. @Bren I'll definitely preserve this kind of look for him. I just keep looking at some of the details and thinking about how much better they could be haha. That said, I'm too busy to work on my own dolls at the moment, so he'll be sporting this look for a while.

      The wig is a monique temp while I figure out making small wigs, and the eyes are from dollines, who is my go-to for all my fashion scale dolls. So many great eyemakers out there I feel no need to do my own as I'd rather support them. Wigs though... I've hit the point where I basically have to suffer through figuring them out to get exactly what I want. XD
       
    34. #35 rianne, Feb 12, 2020
      Last edited: Feb 12, 2020
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    35. @rianne Ah I got you. Good to know he will be around for me to admire. Small wigs are a crap shoot. You never know what you will end up with. He looks great.

      He looks good with Carina.
       
    36. @Bren Thanks! Yeah, I haven't even tried a short wig yet. I figure once I manage a simple mid-long style for one of the girls that I'm actually satisfied with, I'll give the shorter styles a shot.
       
    37. Got my Yvonne back after a "touch up" of her face up. Now she looks more fierce, more like her name Viper:

      [​IMG]Viper Fey 02 by Ashemanu, auf Flickr
       
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    38. Definitely more fierce @Ashemanu !

      Lil bit of spam for the thread. I need to do more with this boy; I've just been swamped lately.

      [​IMG]
       
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    39. @Reinameron Wow, she is stunning! On that picture she looks so elegant and almost ethereal!
       
    40. Oh, thank you so much)) Yvonne one of most beautiful girls in BJD !
       
    41. I'm excited for that! @monkeypizzasonic
      I like the look of their SD body, so I expect the same for mini size. I'd love to get a mini Jarrad. :)
       
    42. I like the look of the mini "pose" body. I have another doll in this size with a split elbow design like that and I really like how it moves. I think it's weird though that the pictures are all very straight on, none really show it posing?? Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. The heads are all so different!
       
    43. they plan to release msd ladies with some changes in the female body. I asked at the board. Am excited about that and I wish to get one of their ladies.

      Wonder about: if the msd body is called aethletic if they plan to make a slim body too
       
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    44. Greeneyed-soul, that's fantastic news about msd ladies! I'm excited about that too.

      Please do you know how I can order one of the msd guys without the eyes? I have so many 6mm to 8mm eyes that would fit from from my FID/Raccoon Doll stash, I don't need to pay another 25 dollars for eyes I don't need, but it doesn't seem to be an option to select "none" in the dropdown box.

      I know I have asked before if SJ dolls come with eyes, but I was meaning the included-for-free-as-standard ones (like Iple and RD do), not being forced to pay a huge amount extra for them :eek:
       
    45. I would e-mail them directly and ask.
       
    46. Thanks monkeypizzasonic :thumbup
       
    47. I didn't see anyway not to get them @LilyAndRuby, I think @monkeypizzasonic idea of emailing them is the best way to go.


      and this guy is my most recent acquisition, and I just love him. I named him Daniel.

      [​IMG]
       
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    48. Thanks Bren, they've changed the dropdown options now, so we can now select "No" eyes - that's great, isn't it.

      Your Daniel is godlike!! :love
       
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    49. @LilyAndRuby

      Thank you about Daniel.

      And yes it is. I'm glad to see that they made the eyes optional. Thank you for asking them and giving us the opportunity.
       
    50. @Bren So nice to see him again <3

      Who else succumbed to the full doll sale? I guess this becomes more than just a 'head' thread lol. I've got an opal beige Jarrad on order. Nearly caved to Zakary too, but I'm trying to make sure each of my dolls has a different body.
       
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    51. I'm somehow both worried and excited about this. I may finally get a yu :aeyepop:
       
    52. You did a beautiful job on him. I'm still looking at a full doll. Haven't made up my mind.
       
    53. Me! Me! I did! I ordered Jude in Amber Beige.
       
    54. Me too. Ordered Jude in Sonoran Beige.
       
    55. Me as well, I ordered Jarrad in opal beige. I hovered over getting Jude as well, but now all my dolly funds are well and truly spent up for this year.

      Rianne, I'm with you on hoping SJ bring out Yu in MSD size, even if I'll just be window shopping for a while :eek:
       
    56. I'm on the fence about ordering................I really love both Jude and Joshua, and I can't get both. I already have the LeStat Jude head, so I keep telling myself I should get Joshua, but dang I love that bearded Jude face up too. I also keep hoping he will release Elf Jude in this mini size eventually though, so maybe I should go for Joshua. So hard to decide.
      [​IMG]Green Foliage Background by wizgerg3, on Flickr
       
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    57. I am drawn to Joshua as well but there are about four orders I would like to place and he is the most expensive. I may have to wait and see if they offer him again.