Sartoria J Design Group - Part 2

Thanks!

 

I think I just fell in love with Raphael

 

Me too! I'm now glad I had to wait until the end of the month to place an order!

 

Hi all! I've been searching this forum but I'm having trouble finding anything that will help me decide on eye size...
Does anyone have pics of their SD girls with 12 and/or 14mm eyes they could share? I can't tell what size eyes the doll on the website (Melissa specifically) has and I'm not sure which I will like better. The pic on the site is gorgeous but I'm still curious what size they are.

Thanks so much

 

At the bottom of the doll listing they have links to related products. One of thise is to their 14mm eyes with a 5mm iris.

 

I just saw that Thanks!
I was a bit perplexed for a sec because when you click on the drop down for eyes for the 61 APH it shows both sizes.

 

Looks like Sartoriaj is selling ready dolls, I'm guessing their models:
SALE - DOLLS

 

Yes, I was wondering if anyone here had grabbed any of them! I was tempted by Sienna but I really, really want a Silvia, so I held onto my funds until they rerelease her. (Hopefully they do...)

 

They are seconds. Look at the dolls description for the defects.

 

Silvia is also on my list, I really hope they rerelease her as well!

@nancy_schroeder_ca Ah I see now, the pages weren't loading for me all the way, I sent it here before they did haha.

 

Yes, they all have some sort of defect I think. However, if I had the money I would have bought Jun in a heartbeat. Sadly, I have no money....

 

Yeah I would have snagged that Jude but most of them are already gone haha. The early bird gets the worm and such.

 

Since I saw a Demian in the mix of sales dolls, I figured I'd ask if the previous tarot series dolls are just a limited thing and I will have to wait for the particular resin and body height I want to pop up or if they're going to bring them back like the elves do every once in a while. I'm sorry if it's like an obvious answer or something, I just forgot.

I'm also selectively choosing to not perceive the Naomi in peach cream as no funding and I miss the 63 body too much.

 

The dolls in the sale page were seconds. They were individual dolls that had manufacturing errors. I have never seen Sartoria sell dolls this way before and it is unlikely that an older limited doll will be offered tis way.

 

SJ has changed the way they use to do things, and now "What's Limited Dolls" is just that, Limited dolls. You won't see them in that size again. And discontinued dolls are not to be in stock again. They have every so often a sale to perhaps get rid of dolls they may have on hand, like this last time, Seconds sale, but it's not a usual every day or monthly thing and there's no reason or rhyme of when they will do it or if they will do it again.

So it's best to get the doll when it's on it's run because you may not be able to get it from them later. You may find it on the 2nd hand market, but nothing is for sure.

I hope this helps answer your question.

 

It does, thank you very much I missed the initial Demian run so I guess I will simply suffer (I'm joking dw)

 

There is a 63 Sarah for sale in one of the FaceBook doll selling groups, bjd adoption.

 

There is a 63 Sarah for sale in one of the FaceBook doll selling groups, bjd adoption.

 

I have Vittoria on layaway and could not pass Jenice sales post on fb. She is coming home from Poland to UK on ups is says Tuesday. Can't wait to get her home

 

Claire is so cute, I really hope Sartoriaj extends their standard dolls to SD size.

 

If they put Lucas and Claire in standard SD I may be in danger ngl

 

I feel this... a lot! SO much danger. I'm really super liking Claire's look~ (Though, I may be in danger at the smaller size, anyway~)

 

If you see once they release her in that size me buying her as a Carrie Kelley shell you saw nothing

 

Yeah part of me almost doesn't want it to be in SD size cause i will definitely have to get her haha

 

Just wanted to share my Laura mermaid in human form.
Sonoran beige skin with SJ face-up.
10mm eyeco eyes
After such a long wait, she's finally home and SJ
did such an amazing job that it really is worth the wait! Hope you like her!

Spoiler

 

She looks so cheerful and happy!

 

@princesspink She is gorgeous!

 

@princesspink Wow she's absolutely gorgeous! The more owner photos I see of Laura the more I regret missing out on her! haha

 

@princesspink - She is stunning!

 

They have the standard dolls SD on the website, but they say sold out. My guess is next Friday they will become available but that is pure speculation on my part because I haven't seen anything official. I'm just hoping because I really want to order Silvia!

EDIT: Wow so many posts loaded between where I thought the thread was! That Laura is beautiful!

 

Thank you do much @Isabeau @jessholy @Wittyilynamed @luluna @ryuunohime

 

@princesspink your Laura is so beautiful I need to add pictures on Flickr of my SartoriaJ dolls. So far I have 4 of them. 3 Sd size and one msd. And one is on layaway :-)

 

Thank you so much @Anita2006 ! Congrats on your SJ dolls! Would love to see them! They must all be gorgeous!

 

@princesspink I will try to transfer pictures from my phone to computer today and to add to flickr. So I can shear photos with this group members :-)
They are all beautiful and I'm enjoying to create costumes to them :-)

 

@Anita2006 Your designs are lovely! If it weren´t for the darn Brexit and the not-so-cheap customs fees to the EU, I would go on a shopping spree right now!

 

It will arrive soon in those days. Will be happy to see pictures of your doll with the dress

 

Thank you, darling you can always get in touch with me and we can arrange something to you. If you need something just write me in private :-)

 

Thank you so much for posting pictures !!! I was wondering do you know if with Zeus body could suit Soom heads ???

 

@Foteini1506 Sadly, I have no clue as I don't own Soom heads or SJ male bodies.

And while I'm at this thread... I think My SartoriaJ attempts are done for, sadly, because I just cannot keep buying their sculpts to test if they work out for me while they sell only full dolls. It's too big a hassle (especially with customs fees) to buy a full doll for the head and try to rehome the body. Their own bodies don't quite match what I'm after, not to mention the fact that I have enough headless bodies to last a lifetime. I haven't had very good luck bonding with my SartoriaJ heads so far - I had four girl heads, and none of them stuck around. I've been collecting one company only too long and all the other sculptors' face sculpts just look out of place even if they are breathtakingly beautiful. I'm glad the armor I got for my Vittoria fits my Fantasia doll bodies, though, so I get to keep that at least.

That being said, I did like my gray Gumiho Sarah whom I gave up, but her fantasy skintone was not my thing after all. I'd gladly give her another chance in a... less undead setup if SJ sometime changes their sales policy, but I'd not buy a full doll for that purpose anymore.

 

No worries because you do not know . I will try to test it myself . Also I thought that sartoriaj sells only heads and only bodies . Or fullset . I was wrong ? I am really in love with matias and I want to have him . And I was thinking to buy a body first second hand , and then after sartoriaj release him again to buy just the head . Until now I have nothing from sartoriaj . I just purchased the gold cauldron for Zeus body . And I was thinking to purchase and the body .

 

SJ sells only full dolls now, and unfortunately Mattias was a limited release doll that they said would not be release again. Just recently they added basic ones that you can buy 24/7. But as you will see not Mattias.

 

I wonder why they decided not to remake Mattias. I was not going to buy any more dolls as the time it now takes to get them is so long. I did however get Mattias. The best option now is to assume all of the dolls are one offering and that's it. Not sure I'm fond of that idea or not........

 

Hello !!!! I really need some help with Sartoriaj amber beige skin . Does anyone have ATstudio wheat skin for comparison with Sartoriaj amber beige skin . I want the Zeus amber body to suit with Auriga head . I really hope that someone will help me . Thank you

 

SJ on instagram posted new photos of their new dark skin tone, 3 dolls.

 

The new carob skin is gorgeous.

 

I was eager waiting for the new post-apocalyptic gear after seeing the teasers on Instagram, seeing as I have some dolls from that theme, but 110 USD for a pair of basic grenades is a bit too much for me, sadly. The new skintone looks gorgeous though! Not my cup of tea as someone who hybrids every doll, but the faceups look very real on it.

I also noticed SJ raised prices pretty drastically. A faceup (by the looks of it made by Barbiefinger who's their main artist these days) on any of the new dolls in any skintone is 150 USD, while when I bought my Vittoria a year ago, Barbiefinger faceups were still 75 USD. Also, a very simple black acrylic paint chest tattoo costs $100 and that doesn't even include chest blushing. Blushing's an extra you have to buy for $55. Eyes by Ornella (the "real eyes") now cost $60 while the same ones directly at Ornella are $35 a pair for any custom colour, plus you get a free second pair for any order. I get that this is a luxury hobby, but...

 

@vauhtikatti yes, I seen that as well and thought it's bit overpriced for simple tattoo or blushing. eyes as well bit expensive...
And face up around 200$ .... who makes they own face up its best to buy blank doll.

 

I'm sorry of disappointed in the Fifth Season set so far (having not even noticed the price increases!) I kind of wish it pushed that science fiction feel a little more...these just have a strong military vibe to me...maybe because the colors are reminiscent of camo and the pants look sort of camo.

I like the new skin color thou!

 

I admit to being totally confused about how SJ are releasing their "Limited Edition" dolls.

I know they have said recently that they are releasing them one and done...BUT...Matias was a "Limited Edition" and they offered him again one other time...didn't they? And of course they then made a mini version of him as well. (When at first they said they were not going to.)

Do they mean not releasing as in not as a full-set with outfit and props? Or not with a particular faceup? Or never released again at all?

If you look under 1/3 dolls...you see Matias...but not Derek or Raphael...You have to go to the "Limited Dolls" drop down menu to see them (Derek and Raphael)...but there in that section Matias doesn't appear! And now when I click on standard dolls Matias appears...

Sigh....

I have a Matias and love him. I'd like to maybe get a Derek or Raphael sometime in the future...so I've been trying to pay attention...but I'm more confused than ever.

 

@luluna @vauhtikatti I agree. What gives with Sartoriaj all of a sudden? I was wondering if he sold the company or took on partners. This just proves that buying when you see something makes sense even if you have to stretch a bit. I usually don’t take loans, but for this hobby…I do.

Maybe Jay has so much demand he is playing only to the bigger spenders. I still love his products, especially the Mintonette line.

Also, @luluna, I told Dollshe I needed my money back for Diana because it was over two years wait. She arrived the next week, terribly badly strung but with ballet feet, multiple heads and hands as well as the standard heel feet. They swore it was a color they rarely poured and the gates were obvious but I decided that that really is part of the fun. One of these days she will take a trip to Oregon to be properly strung. Or maybe I’ll do it. It can’t come out worse than it already is, LOL.

I realize I’m talking about other doll lines but I kept seeing footnotes that prompted new thought.

 

Love the new skin tone, though I have opinions about a lot of these companies choice to have darker skintones for military/fighting series, and not for fantasy or normal ones.

Nadia is very tempting but not sure if I want to spend $900 on her haha.
I know darker skin tones are an added cost but $210 feels steep.

 

@Frillseeker I scrolled through my order history from last summer, and it seems everything has jumped up except for the base price of the dolls (even though I agree with Wittyilynamed, 210 extra is a lot for a tan compared to the likes of Iple +85 for dark brown or +123 for ebony, even if SJ's new skin is gorgeous).

The real eyes last summer were $50 (now 60), the Elf Naomi set was 120 (now 152), the extra hands were 42 (now 45, okay that's still moderate). Everything with the exception of resin and shoes in my purchase history now costs a lot more in just a few months, and the new stuff they introduce like the grenades are just insanely priced. But, judging by how many names are on their annual holiday event gift list of "spends 5k - 20k annually on SJ products", I guess they have enough big spenders that this will slip.

And I agree about the "buy when you see it". Often when I waited for a "better moment" to buy, the thing just got more expensive in the meanwhile. I still remember the covid shipping mess when I was planning an Iple order, but the shipping jumped to 180 USD for two SD dolls. I decided to wait, and ended up paying 280 USD for the shipping a year later.

 

Fifth Season does nothing for me (I don't care for military dolls) and $210 for a skintone is just too much.

 

@Frillseeker - I agree! With SJ last holiday sale...I was so tempted by so much. I still purchased two dolls (one being a MSD) but I also really liked Derek and Raphael...but just couldn't swing any more. I didn't event buy anything from Iple. (First time since I started collecting.) So, if they (Derek & Raphael) being "Limited" are not offered ever again...that would be a shame.

I really like Nadia she reminds me of Elle. I wish I would have received my Elf Serena or a holiday purchase on the MTN body...so I would have an example of it in hand before I purchase any more.

And Congratulations for finally getting your Diana! I'm into three years wait now....but feel if I try to cancel (with my luck) she would then finally ship. I do bug BJDivas every now and then about her....sigh.

While I'm here....a photo of one of my Matias heads...the open mouth version (on an Athletic Body) whom I call Danill.

Matias 1 by luluna33, on Flickr

 

Now that is a SPECTACULAR doll!! Wow!! Is he the default faceup?

 

@Ardent - Thank you ever so much! Yes, he has a default faceup...it's glorious! Kudos to the SJ faceup artists!

 

@luluna and @Frillseeker,

At this point, I'm at a loss on what SJ is doing or will do with their dolls. They keep changing their minds on what is limited and what is not.

I hope they will make Derek a MSD, but who knows.

I believe Mattias was offerered once as a SD ( I could be mistaken, tho) and then one more as a MSD, which was nice because they had indeed said, they would not make him smaller. So, reason why I hope Derek may end up being MSD.

But it is best to get them if you really want them, when they are out. Since who knows when we may see them again or at all.

Boo hoo. I still mourn for my JUDE. Still sad they discontinued him. He still is my over all favorite sculpt of their s. I would have loved it if he would have become one of their standards since he was the first one that they came out of the gate with when they decided to go with producing dolls, and not only outfits and assessories.

and I love seeing your Mattias @luluna.


ps I did see the increase for their face up, but I thought it cost more because Darker colors are harder to face ups. Most artists will not work with it because of issues associated with that kind of color/ ebony/ dark skin.

 

I may be resigned to having SJ be just a clothing/wig company for me, as much as I love Demian and missed him, I just can't mentally fit any of their dolls into anything so rip me ig.

 

Just curious here, are you referring to their Zeus body? Because they also have an ATH body that to me, had more of a swimmer's build than muscle builder. My Demian is on that one.

 

They really do have the best in-house faceup artists. I think that the 150 is probably for the carob skin, but even if they raised their prices I would probably keep paying for their artistry.

Sorry I can't resist sharing my most recent faceup from them. This is Elf Lobelia from the recent seconds sale, with Elf Adrian's makeup (minus eyebrow ring.)