Making Fay (8-19 still not done- comparison pics p.10)

sooo cute little bjd , grettings

 

Oh the pics are wonderful!! If you can describe each step and take pictures like this it will be very helpful. !! I love her cute parts!

 

i want to steal her she is flippin cute

 

OMG she is so incredible I just love her little face so sweet !!!

 

oh wow I can`t wait to see her completed!

 

Playdoh! That's a great idea! Thanks!

 

Aweee!!! I wish I was this talented! T_T

 

You're doing better than I did! I kept running out of clay, it took weeks to get the molds done!!

 

Instead of using play-do what about using kid's modeling clay? It's usually in the craft aisle. I picked up a 1lb box for like $3 at wal-mart. It's reusable and doesn't dry out and doesn't react with the silicone since kid's clay is non-sulfer. :3

And MY GOD she's adorable! I can't wait to see her finished!

 

Wow looking sweet! X33 She looks very smooth, nice work! I totally understand the labor of getting it smooth.... XDD ARG! I hope the casting goes well, your molds look very professional!

I also agree with batchix, using a different clay, especially something oil-based like kids clay that doesn't dry out, for the other half of the casting would be better. I would normally just say use water clay (an airdrying clay used in ceramics) as it easily washes out of the mold and can be used again. But if you have it sittign around that long before you cast using somethign that doesn't dry out is better. X3

 

i've been stalking your work, and wow... your doll is gonna be amaizing... she's indeed a cute chibi doll...

...i still cant find out how you make it hollow...and i cant wait for that casting tutorial you mentioned...

 

A casting tutorial would be veery interesting~ * v *
Your doll is lovely , good luck with the casting! : D

 

Uwah! I love how your dollie is coming out! I can't wait to see her in the finished resin Anyway, good luck!

 

oi that is very cute! Keep up the good work!

 

It shouldn't react as far as I know, the only things I know of that will cause the silicone to not set correctly are sulfer(which is found in some fancy modeling clay) and latex- so don't use latex gloves. X3 I didn't know you got it by the kg~ here in stores playdoh is more expensive than the modeling clay! XD

 

^_^ your doll is looking fantastic!

can't wait to see her in resin form.

I do hope you make a casting tutorial also, I am so confused by all the different techniques....anyone want to help me out?

keep up the good work!

 

I third, fourth, or fifth the call for a tutorial. I can't bend my brain around what exactly you're doing with her cute little puttied feet... well actually I guess I see that you're going to put something onto the top of them to make the mold?? but what about the bottom of her feet? This 3-d thing is so hard for 2-d visual thinking to handle!

 

Oh! Excellent, that makes sense to me now. 2 parts. Duh, you would have thought I could figure that out, but... you never know

Thanks so much!

I still want you to make Fay for sale (and I'll bet I'm not alone!)

 

Fay is totally gorgeous!!!

I just Googled Hasbro (they make playdoh) and according to their FAQ's

"The exact ingredients of PLAY-DOH compound are proprietary, so we cannot share them with you. We can tell you that it is primarily a mixture of water, salt and flour. It does NOT contain peanuts, peanut oil, or any milk byproducts. It DOES contain wheat.

PLAY-DOH compound is non-toxic, non-irritating & non-allergenic except as noted: Children who are allergic to wheat gluten may have an allergic reaction to this product.

There is no MSDS sheet required for PLAY-DOH compound."

..... On a personal note I AM allergic to Sulfur and my daughters playdoh has never caused an allergic reaction for me

CANT WAIT to see see your little darling all finished

 

(when I said 'other half of the mold' I meant as in using the clay as a placeholder for where the second silicone pour will go later, as you were doing! Sorry if I said it weird. )

Oh noes mold failure! XDD That's so terrible! Happened to a kid in my class too, but he caught it in time and put on like a POUND of hot melt glue. Almost wasted 35 dollars worth of oomoo silicone. XDD

Are you sealing up the edges of the mold boxes with hot melt glue? That is always a good way to ensure it being sealed. Silicone WILL fine any little pinhole and leak out. It does that. XDD IT SUCKS. >_>

For the vents / pour spouts why not use clay? The straws you said floated up, the clay can be any shape you want and will seal up against your model nicely.

Also, make sure to mix for the WHOLE mixing time it says (if it says mix for four minutes, mid for four minutes) and be VERY precise in your measuring when mixing. I mean like CRAZY anal about it. I’m guessing its mix 1-1 by volume? Check the sheet to be sure it’s not by weight, cause it’s no the same as by volume. Being off in measuring can result in it not setting up. Also yes, Sulfur can make it not harden as well. Sealing all parts with some kind of acrylic sealer helps to ensure that.

Oh yes, and when pouring silicone onto a model, don't use a silicone spray release, cause silicone sticks to only one thing - silicone. The sheet is right in saying you don't need one for the first pour (or casting, cause silicone won’t stick to the resin). When doing the second half of the mold DO use some kind of non-silicone based spray release, smooth-on has the MANN EASE spray release for that, but you can also use Vaseline thinned with mineral spirits, and there are other ones too (I forget right now). For casting pours you can use a thin layer of baby powder inside to be kinder on your mold (extend its life). And it creates a nice smooth finish that can be painted (when you use a mold release you have to clean it off somehow before painting cause it will prevent the paint from sticking).

Goof luck with your girl, don't give up! You can do it, you're so close!

 

Oh that's terrible news!!!!!!! I don't know if it will help, but I've been using the Alumilite silicones and not had any trouble with that, even with one batch where I got to the bottom and found there wasn't much catalyst mixed in, and that set fine too?

The resin I think should be fine, if it isn't opened it can last a while, and even if it is it might look a little funny in the bottle, but once it's poured it still tends to set just fine (or at least thats what I've found with some of my mistreated resin!)

So sorry to hear about the head mold though. I had the same thing happen to me, sillicone went all over the place it was a disaster!!!! I have found though, that you can make a mold without any channels for the pour, and just cut them out later with a knife.

 

That's awful... When I made my first mold, it took days to set because I measured by volume instead of weight like I was supposed to(I was told I didn't need to and I didn't want to by a scale :/ ) I wish I'd molded something smaller than the head, since there were other problems with it.

You should just do a small mold first to see if it'll work before you do more...
Was the silicone open while it was sitting all that time? I hear these kind of things do have a shelf life. And maybe you shouldn't use play-doh, it doesn't seem very good for molding with anyway(drying, cracking...). Hmm... I think it's also good to use products from the same company. They might not be compatible with other products(like silicone from one company with a mold release from another). Well, I hope you can figure out the problem and get everything working! You're doll is so cute~

 

It saddly may be too old. The fact that it was unopened until now is a good sign, it has a limited shelf life once opened. Unopened it lasts far longer. However at my school we have had students get bad batches of silicone or resin casue they have been sitting in the warehouses too long. We were told by our teacher to alwasy order from the nearest supplier to ensure freshness. The silicone should be used a room temperature as it says, but it being exposed to cold (not freezing, just cold) at some point should not matter too much I think, all I know is you gotta let it warm up before you use it.

Call Smooth-on, they are eager to help customs my teacher always tells us. Tell them you got a bad batch of silicone, maybe they will send you some free replacements, never hurts to try.

 

Its looking soooo adoreble!

 

Coming along great! Will you bake all the pieces at once? Can you share what temp you use, and for how long? I see you use Sculpey...maybe you just go by the instructions on the package. Congratulations! That wig is going to be the masterpiece of the whole doll...pretty special...can we see a picture of your dog? (Lots of questions, huh!)

 

wOw, i'm amazed Fay's come so far. I remember when this thread opened >< You've done so much in so litttle time. And your talented to boot! O.0 i'm jealous! Fantastic job!

 

That's terrible news. Any chance you could just send them samples?

 

That's very responsible of them to want to see the silicone so they can figure out why it wasn't working, instead of just passing it off as a bad batch. I hope you can get your new silicone soon and finish your girl! I&#8217;m myself am going to go start casting my head / hands tomorrow and I&#8217;m nervous! X33 But excited.

As for mold release, you only need it when pouring the second half of the silicone mold, (again, silicone only sticks to silicone). Our teacher tells us to just use crystal clear spray sealer (it's an acrylic clear sealer like dullcote). You just want something to create a very thin separation between the layers of it. You can also use the &#8220;Man-ease&#8221; release from Smooth-on, as it is non-silicone based.

I myself am using oomoo and it's a good tin-cure silicone (platinum cure ones like dragonskin or rebound are longer-lived but more expensive). I am also a fan of it&#8217;s purple color LOL! XD it amuses me.

 

I strongly suggest the use of a silicone called GI-1000 for all mold making. It is an extremely durable silicone. it costs a little bit more, but you should be able to get 50+ castings from a mold made with it. Plus I have never had a problem with it curing. You can get it herehttp://www.sculpt.com/catalog_98/RUBBERS/siliconetin.htm. Scroll down until you get to the GI-1000. You can also compare prices with other silicones here.

As for mold release for making the mold haves, I use either Vaseline or KY Jelly brushed on in a thin layer. You can carefully apply it to the silicone as a barrier and avoid getting it on the sculpture.

I hope you can get some good molds made for her. She is terribly cute.

 

We just finished using Oomoo in my jewelry making class this semester, which I looooved, but yeah, I WAS worried when you mentioned Oomoo that it would perhaps tear more then you'd want, because when we were pulling open the mold for my head (not a doll head, but nice nonetheless) it tore a little bit. it's nothing that I can't deal with, since I'm mostly going to just be using the face part of the head and it wasn't torn enough to not be able to use it for a full head if I wanted to, but it DID tear, so you might keep that in mind. Otherwise, I absolutely loved it. It was a kick to use. But that could just be because that's the first time in my entire life I've ever done anything like that. lol I was tickled to death to have something I made made into a mold, so I could "manufacture" things if I wanted to. XP hehehe

Plus, it's hella expensive...but I don't know how expensive the stuff you're using is, so yeah, that may not be an issue. lol

 

Awee she is soo cute! I can't wait to see her done! And thank you, I'll need the luck, with all the molds I'm making something is bound to screw up even if I'm uber careful. XD

^ -- @ Nepenthes: *clicks link* That stuff it a LOT cheaper that Ooomoo (which is 130 for a gallon kit and is also a a tin cure. Tin cure and Platnim cure are the grades of silicone. Platnim's are stronger / longer-lived but cost more. ) but the reason I'd reccomend the Ooomoo is cause it is 1 : 1 by volume, things being mixed by weight involve gram scales and can be hard to get the right amounts (They work just fine, I'm saying maybe it's not good for beginners). Also it is pretty easy to get a mostly bubble free mold without the use of a vaccum chamber through methods I was taught. Later when I want to make molds that will last longer I wil buy something like what you reccomended (as well as a gram scale), but for now I'm trying to get things done X3 . *Still new to all this*

^--- @ Hellsingmongrel : I haven't have any Ooomoo tear on me yet, we abused this one Ooomoo mold that was a split-back and it's fine, and our teacher has molds from like a year ago that are still intact. Maybe cause it was not thick enough? I guess it's just how careful you are with them or stuff...*shrugs* I dunno, everyone has different experiences with matierals I've seen. XDD I really do want to get some better stuff though for future projects, but not till summer (when I have more time).

 

For the price difference between the two silicones, you could be a decent digital kitchen scale that you can then use for any number of things.

 

She looks so cute

 

Oh! I can't wait to see her done and painted! She's so cute! It seems to have been a long process for you but she really does look amazing! ^^

 

Just to pass along the info - I did some research and there is some platnim cure silicone (high quality / stronger) called Smooth-Sil 920 and it's done by volume as well (1 - 1). I may get some myself, I had wanted stronger stuff but didn't wanna have to bother professor Ramsey to borrow his gram scale XD .

Also, how are things going? is Fay staring at you waiting to be completed? Or is she a patient girl?

 

That's so cutee! XDD She seems patient, that's cool. What's 'Ascension Day' ?

I don't know about Euro amounts... XD But for the added amount of strength the 30 dollar different between the Smooth-sil and Ooomoo would be worth it. (Ooomoo is $132 and Smooth-sil is $158 ) I'm poor too...I know the feeling XD I'm angsting over how much all this is costing, but I'm hopeing to make it back selling a few dolls. ^^ So I can have money for clothes and school supplies, you know? XD *lol*

But then again for the simple smooth parts you are making Ooomoo should be fine. We use it for far more complicated stuff in class and it's really not as brittle as people make it out to be. You just use a mold release (even a thin layer of baby powder makes a good mold release for castings), put your parting line in a good place, and are gentle with it and it should get you 10-20 castings before it starts to die (better silicones will do many more obviously).

Best wishes!

 

She's adorable! I love her big eyes, can't wait to see her finished!

 

Biblical reference, I believe - the day some set period after Easter when Jesus was said to have ascended to Heaven permantely, thus "ascension."

Feel free to smack me about sharply, someone, if I'm wrong.

At any rate, Fay continues to be one of my favorite stops in this area. She is seriously, seriously adorable. Floppy or not!

 

*-* Is really cute!!!

 

God she is so gorgeous!! I can't wait to see her finished!!