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Aesthetics Chieut's BJD faceup journey

May 4, 2017

    1. Hello! I'm making this thread to record my progress on faceups.
      I recently bought a head for a cheap price and I want to practice multiple times on this same head. I think it'll also help me figure out what I did right and what I did wrong since it's easier to compare multiple tries on the same mold.

      I'll be recording what I learned through each attempt. I'm also inviting critiques and tips.
      This thread will be permanent. I will keep posting attempts.

      Most of these are notes to myself. I don't expect anyone to read them, and I don't mind if you repeat my self critiques so you don't need to worry and read through my own assessments ;o;

      My current goal is to get used to the tools, and generally learning to work on a 3D, resin textured surface. I'll be using the same look until I feel more comfortable with the tools I'm using.


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      ATTEMPT #1

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      This is the reason I didn't start posting on the forums immediately. It was terrible!!

      I used:
      -Cheap pastels
      -10 year old watercolor pencils I had lying around
      - UV cut flat MSC

      After hours of looking back at my artist career and crying about it inside (lmao) I quickly erased what I had done and took a break. Then I was composed enough to troubleshoot the issue.

      THE GOOD -
      1. Eh, the eye creases aren't that bad for a failed faceup.
      2. I also figured out that mixing "too much" water with pastels created a cool, watercolor effect. I quickly figured out that I should experiment with this technique a little later though.


      THE BAD
      1. MSC: I sealed it once, didn't wait for it to dry and immediately started working. The pigment wouldn't stick, and I generally had a hard time. The surface just didn't have enough tooth. It wasn't even properly sealed all throughout the head, as I would find out later on my second try.
      2. Blushing: I got ahead of myself and decided to start abusing blue tones. The end result was a patchy looking blush job.
      3. Erasing: I couldn't find my kneadable eraser and used a hard eraser. I decided to partly erase blush work. The rest is history. It looked super patchy help


      Honestly, the biggest problem was not sealing the doll properly.
      I mostly learned the importance of sealing, and generally about the difficulties of working on a resin head. I also got a general feel for how each medium applied to resin.


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      ATTEMPT #2

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      Again, I was unimpressed and quickly took a snapshot before moving on. I regret this terribly. Note to self that failure is okay and it's much more worth it to document everything -_-

      I used: (New supplies are marked with **)
      -Pastels
      -Watercolor pencils
      -Black Acrylic**
      -MSC

      The next day, I went out and bought myself some black acrylic for eyeliner work. I also took the time to watch a couple of faceup videos to get some clues on parts I wasn't sure of. I was most concerned about making the faceup look a little more bold and pigmented.

      THE GOOD:
      1. Using black acrylic for eyeliner was a good move. It made the faceup look a little more complete.
      2. I did a little better with applying pastels. It still came out extremely patchy, though. I didn't tone down on the blue and I still used hard erasers to erase blush lol chieut .. ... ...(smh) at this point I just decided to stop erasing blush at all (even with kneadable erasers) unless I specifically wanted a hard edge.
      3. I got some hints to layering pastels, especially on the lips. I just had to be patient and actually layer them..... also I finally figured out that pastels won't stick enough if I only use one thin, patchy layer of MSC.


      THE BAD:
      1. There was a problem with sealing, and created a foggy patch on the doll's forehead. It's not visible in the photo.
      2. The eyeliner shape didn't quite work. The eyeliner width was even all throughout the eye, and reached from exactly one corner of the eye to another. It was unnatural. The black eyelashes were also a problem for me; the fish tail shape looks very awkward to me.
      3. I finally noticed that the eyebrows are very sparse, especially after putting black acrylic on his eyes. Also, the pencil lines were grainy and generally unpleasant to look at.


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      ATTEMPT #3

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      I used: (New supplies are marked with **)
      -Pastels
      -Watercolor pencils
      -Black Acrylic
      -Gouache**
      -MSC

      THE GOOD:
      1. I sealed the head with three layers of MSC and actually waited for it to dry for each layer. This helped a whole lot and made shading considerably easier.
      2. I finally stopped going crazy with blue. I figured out that it's better to apply it sparingly under the eyes, and probably where the skin would be thin enough to show blue tones.
      3. Eyeliner looks a lot better. The right one looks better on the inner corner of the eyes; it creates a smooth, well connected line compared to the other side, where the corner is square shaped. I drew extra eyelashes with black colored pencils. I sharpened the pencil and used multiple strokes, which helped the grainy-ness a bit.
      4. The eyelashes show that my hand's a little more steady than before.
      5. Eyebrow hairs. They look like hair and it looks like I figured out what direction eyebrow hairs go in.
      6. The eye creases weren't so grainy for some reason. I figured sharpening and layering helps? I started to further sharpen my pencils with a knife.


      THE BAD:
      1. The eyebrows. Because the gouache was applied thickly, the eyebrows looked thick, dense and untamed. These eyebrows are cute and all, but that's not what I was going for. I tried to apply it with more water to make it transparent, but resin doesn't work that way. The water just clumped up into drops and the pigment got transferred in messy droplet shapes too.
      2. Wait for gouache to dry, and then apply MSC. I learned that the hard way when I tried to draw over them with pencils and the pencils just scraped the gouache right off.
      3. Eyelashes are still grainy how do I fix this someone send help
      4. I tried to wipe off some gouache while I was shaping the eyebrows.
      5. I got a little scared with shading. The head could have used some brown toned shading.
      6. It's generally messy. The dirty way, I mean. There is a gray smudge on its nose. I didn't take a photo but there's dirty gray smears all over the bottom of its chin. I sealed over dust that sat on the head.
      7. Lips are uneven. I fixed the bottom lip but didn't notice the upper lip. HMM. I also colored over the lines on one corner of the lips.
      8. The reds in the eyes and lips are too red for my liking.


      ???
      1. Can I use transparent wet materials at all??
      2. How do I prevent grainy pencils?
      3. Do I really need to get a different brush or is there another way to really press those pastel pigments onto the surface?

      Further action:
      1. I'd like to try drawing eyelashes and eyebrows using wet medium.
      2. Maybe I should ditch pastels and shade the eyebrows on with pencils? Not sure how that'd turn out though.
      3. Experiment with different brushes and tools to figure out what works best for me.

      -bottom lip shape, watch out for under lips

      -separate upper and lower lash
       
      #1 Chieut, May 4, 2017
      Last edited: May 4, 2017
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    2. Wow, these show so much improvement! I can't give too much technical help, unfortunately, but I'm sure you'll get better with experimentation and practice! And it's great that you can point out the good and the bad; it means you have a good understanding of your strengths and weaknesses, which is really the first step to improvement.

      A few things I do notice about the most recent faceup:

      1) I'm not sure about using gouache on a faceup, especially for eyebrows; you've pointed out most of the weird stuff about it, like looking kind of thick and smudgy, so I don't have to go into that. I believe (but can't be totally sure, I've never done a faceup before) that most people use pastels and watercolor pencils for eyebrows, because they give a softer, more natural look. They'd probably be easier to work with too, but I don't know that for sure.

      2) The bottom lip seems a little too full. The color of human lips don't go all the way down to the chin; it starts directly at the corner and stops right about where the fullness of the lip starts to dwindle towards the chin. Your first and second attemps actually follow this a little better. Of course, you could just paint the lips more fully as an artistic preference, which is totally fine! But from the side especially it looks a little unrealistic in this case.

      3) A tiny bit of separation between the upper and lower lashes at the outside corners of the eyes might help with realism as well. Actual eyelashes don't form all the way around the eye, and tend to thin slightly and bow inwards towards the corners. This can be really hard to replicate in 2D though, so I wouldn't worry about it too much!

      These are just little things to consider, and again, I'm certainly not an expert! Feel free to tell me to get lost if you want. :lol: I personally really like how you've done the dark eyeliner in the last faceup, it looks really cool and almost 3D. I hope this helps a bit (though I didn't really give any actual advice...), and I can't wait to see you improve even more!
       
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    3. Nah, I won't tell you to get lost, don't worry haha I honestly feel really lost and alone here (esp because I'm new to the hobby and I don't have any existing friends who are into BJDs as well) so any help is really great!! Also they were plenty of advice, I appreciate it a lot.

      The lips kept getting gradually bigger as I tried to fix its shape tbh, so I didn't realize that it got so big until you mentioned it. Also thank you for the tips on the lash shapes. They're both huge hints and I'll definitely keep them in mind on my next try. :) I'm sure my next try will turn out better with your help!
       
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    4. I'm glad I could help a little! And don't feel alone, there are tons of people here in the exact same boat as you, and it honestly seems like you've got a good eye for this faceup business. :3nodding:

      (I'll probably be in the same position soon too... I always thought I'd never be able to do faceups 'cause I'm a terrible artist, but seeing people like you who step up and get started really inspires me to try! So thank you for that! :kitty1)
       
    5. Honestly it's all about practice. At first everybody sucks and it takes time to get better, so don't worry too much about it ;).

      For the lineart I personally like the acrylic paint better, if it helps. Also, this is a good tutorial, I used it as reference when I first started to do face up.
       
    6. You're showing a lot of good improvement! I promise you my first three faceups were worse. I really like the way you're approaching this, too, in terms of really taking the time to make notes and observations about what works and what doesn't. I'd love to address your three ending questions, if you don't mind!

      1. Can I use transparent wet materials at all??
      You CAN.... but honestly, for transparency, pastel or airbrush will almost always look better. If you want a translucent but sharp-edged area, I'd suggest mixing acrylic paint with a matte medium rather than just water. This will give the transparency, but it won't bead up on the resin. Again, though, the uses of that technique are pretty limited--soft, transparent blending calls for either a powdered material like pastel, applied gradually in layers, or an airbrush.

      2. How do I prevent grainy pencils?
      I mean, my personal recommendation is to switch to very thin acrylics, but if you want to work with watercolor pencils the trick is to draw on your line and then go over it with a very tiny brush and a dab of water. Either that or sharpen the pencil EXTREMELY sharp and dampen it slightly before applying it. The water smooths it all out. You can use them dry in fine, light lines (think blond eyelashes), but for darker colors it needs the water to bridge the little tiny gaps between the spots where it hits the sealant texture.

      3. Do I really need to get a different brush or is there another way to really press those pastel pigments onto the surface?

      You want to press lighter, actually, never harder! Rather than trying to get a rich color in one pass, you have to be patient and build layers. As many as it takes--and it may take a lot. I still do my lips with pastel (I airbrush blush and colorful eyeshadow), and typically need at least three layers for a light-to-medium natural lip, or 5+ for a dark lip. A fairly large and very soft brush is the best for blushing, and I like a synthetic sable filbert (size 0 or so) for lips. Any brush you use for soft pastel application should never be used with paint! I don't even wash mine--just tap and wipe out the excess powder.

      Overall, I would highly encourage you to try getting acrylics into your kit, I think you'll be happier with the line quality you get with them since grainyness is obviously a big concern. I like to buy paints that are pre-thinned for airbrush even for hand-painting, since you don't have to guess about how much to thin them down. Soft body acrylics are the next best thing. Give them a try, I think you'll like them!
       
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    7. thank you for all the help, everyone!! Every adviced helped a lot in my next attempt. :)

      ATTEMPT #4

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      and a terrifying flash photo so that the blushing and shading is a little more visible
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      I used: (New supplies are marked with **)
      -Pastels
      -Watercolor pencils
      -Black Acrylic
      -MSC

      I ditched gouache. Not only was the application difficult, I was very nervous that the gouache had stained the resin when I was removing the faceup because it didn't come off as easily as acrylics did.

      THE GOOD:
      1. Shading turned out alright. Still turned out patchy as hell but in terms of where I put which shade, it turned out well. I managed to put some blues in there without the messiness on attempts 1 and 2.
      2. My powdering accuracy got a little better and I'm more experienced with applying pastel powder onto resin surface. Experimenting how each ingredient reacts with another helps me the most. I used pastels to make the eyebrows and color the lips.
      3. The eyebrows turned out alright. I still need to figure out how I want to draw the hairs but I did figure out how to actually apply them.
      4. I really like the lip color. This is significant because this helped me notice the difference in color with a coat of varnish. This will definitely affect my color choices.


      THE BAD:
      1. Better, but still patchy. I keep forgetting to dust off the fallout before sealing. Even if pastel dust isn't visible to me at first, they become more apparent when I seal them. It's also apparent that I'm not very great with using powders in the first place, since I had multiple occasions where the shading was applied unevenly. My only option is to practice.
      2. The eye creases don't look that great, and there wasn't enough effort put into the lashes and general details under the eye. The eyeliner's uneven and I didn't finish filling it in. At this point I'm reconsidering using pencils. Adding water did soften up the grainy lines,(thank you for the tips everyone!) but at this point I'd just rather save the effort and use wet medium for hard lines. I'll be using wet medium for the eyes, but I will continue using pencils for lip creases and eyebrow hair. I prefer to have a bit of pink showing on the outer corner of the eye, and I noticed that eyelashes start unnaturally close to the eyes.
      3. I still chicken out with shading. Adding blush and blue undertones isn't that bad, but when it comes to making the eyeshadow effect that I want, I chicken out and never layer enough pigments to make a difference.


      My shading has a lot of room for improvement in terms of application and generally being neat, but it was done well in terms of color. It's a shame that my camera can't pick up what the shading exactly looks like since that means less potential feedback for me o(-( You can however tell that the shading is very clumpy on side views.

      ???
      -. How can I make my shading neater? What's causing the patchiness?

      Further action:
      -Pick up some acrylics and ditch the colored pencils for eye details.
      -Keep experimenting and practicing with pastel powder.
      -Each pastel color reacts differently. Pick out those that work well and remember those that don't.
      -Work on makeup details now that i'm getting used to applying pigment onto resin surface.
       
      #7 Chieut, May 5, 2017
      Last edited: May 5, 2017
    8. Hi! Wow, you've had a ton of improvement over your few faceups! Like others have said, a lot of things just come down to practice, but I just wanted to offer a few pointers that helped me out a ton while I learned how to do faceups.

      I used to have very patchy blushing too. I found that a lot of it can actually come from too thick of MSC spraying. I always spray with lighter coats but more often in order to get consistent blushing. It can also happen when you try to pack too much pastel in one area without spraying in between. The key is lighter but more layers! This will help with your shading, too. There's really only so much pastel you can put on each MSC layer, so use more layers prevent patchiness and build colors up to be more vibrant.

      Hair and other fine lines were the most difficult for me to figure out when I was first doing faceups. I started with watercolor pencils and slowly moved to acrylics, but I still use my pencils for certain things. I find eye creases easier with pencils but tend to do my lash and brow hairs with acrylics. Unfortunately, this one IS all just practice. I like to keep a sealed headcap near me so I can test doing light, feathered strokes with my brush or pencil. If you're using pencils, keep them as sharp as you can and work with a very light hand. I also keep an eraser around so I can soften any edges that don't feather nicely.

      I wish you the best of luck with your faceups! I know the whole "practice makes perfect" thing is annoying to hear, but with faceups it's completely true. :)
       
    9. Hi, Shadowedforce! Thanks for the feedback! I'll keep that in mind next time I shade.

      ATTEMPT #5

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      Also here's another attempt; unfortunately I couldn't get more photos since I had to borrow a friend's phone to take this photo since mine was.. dead..
      I think acrylics definitely work better for me. I can't seem to get rid of the grainyness so ? ? ? I do think that I can work with them for lighter colors like Wolfie suggested.

      One problem is that I need to water down the acrylics a little more; the eyelashes turned out a little too thick and unnatural from what I remember. Next tiime I'll be focusing on shading.
       
    10. I really love the lip color