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Modification Armour for knight and horse - arms WIP

Aug 2, 2016

    1. How exciting!

      It's a great idea to use cut-resistant gloves for your material, but I do wonder how you're cutting them, given what they are.
       
    2. Tin snips - as it is wire thread, you need something a bit more serious than scissors.
       
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    3. A weapon, right?
       
    4. Hmmm...no. Depends how you it. I would not place my fingers where its prongs are.
       
    5. Oh! He's got to have spurs? :D
       
    6. Of course! He needs then in order to balance his enormously pointy sabatons.

      Joke aside, it is a sign of his stand.
       
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    7. Oh, I meant what he was missing to be a knight.
       
    8. #248 Ipledreamer, Sep 12, 2019
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    9. Wow! :D You have done an amazing job! Several years for this one project, I'm impressed with your dedication to detail! All the time and thought you are putting into this is really showing! I can't wait to see more!
       
    10. Thank you so much! You know, there were and will be several breaks. So it is not that long. But if want to have an authentic suit of armor, you need tons of money...or put tons of work in it.
       
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    11. I haven't had acrylic discolor copper in the past.

      Nail polish stays better, though...
       
    12. I decided to not use copper. Turned out my copper sheet is only 0.5 mm, and the thicker sheet get incredibly expensive. Also, I could not get the thick copper wire, which was supposed to form the long spur neck, to look neat.

      Today I went to a hardware store and bought some 0.8 mm matte aluminium tubing. This will be stiff enough. At the end where it connects with the foot part, I think I can fix it a screw or a nail. For the rowel, I will try to hammer it flat and drill a whole for a rod to go through. The spur rowel will hopefully sit on that rod in the end.

      Before the rowel will be mounted to the rest though, I will use some golden spray paint meant for cars and then put mod podge over the whole (the kind I use is the dishwasher safe kind for outdoor use. Great stuff, but needs a whole month to dry fully).

      During this step, I will some more inbetween steps.
       
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    13. Sometimes things go a bit different than planned:

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      Everything went fine until I tried to adapt my fixing plates to the foot part. One broke off of each spur neck:

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      Then my husband came up with the brilliant idea to secure the necks with pop rivets (Thanks, hubby!):

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      Next step will now be to figure out the strap holders. These were not directly fixed to the foot part, but there were some extra dangling pieces. Then clean up the whole mess and giving it a nice coat of (almost) real gold...(don't tell Raph that it is just spray paint).
       
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    14. The spur compoments are cut and spray painted. They are drying in the sun:

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      To be honest, I find the golden colour a bit underwhelming. I am pretty sure I will remove this and try something else. It just looks absolutely awful.

      Anyways, it now time to deal with our brave knight's upper half. But where to start? With the torso protection, or maybe it is better to do the arms first?

      Please stay tuned...
       
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    15. Niiiiice!

      I've had good luck with liquid leaf for almost-real gold effects. It stinks to high heaven, but good luck getting it off something once it's dry...

      I hear the arms are somewhat easier to do than the torso, so maybe they're a good place to begin? Of course, I don't know if you're planning a single plate or a set of lames, but in any case, I've heard that the torso armor will demand every skill you've built working on the limbs.
       
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    16. Regarding the arms you are probably right. I think I will start with the lower arms...similar to the legs.
       
    17. Yes - electroplating is another phrase for galvanization, but the setup can be fiddly and the solvents are Not Good For You. (That said, you can do real gold that way.) Another way to do the real stuff is with leaf and adhesive applied to your piece, and burnishing it into place, like an illuminator working on a page. I don't know how well that holds up on things that aren't books and will probably be bumping into things, like a doll's outfit inevitably will.

      I hope your Gilding Liquid works out! And best luck with his arm pieces.
       
    18. Okay, after having looked at several Gothic arms to get a feeling for the lines, I decided to start off these vambraces (lower arm armour):

      vambrace

      Sadly, it does not clearly say whether its Gothic or Italian. But IMO. the vambraces do not differ that vastly. That will change when we move up the arm...

      The plates for the inner side of the vambrace:

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      I think I will do this in such a way that the articulation will happen through lames like at the knee. Only that wing of the elbow cop is pulled out and wrapped around the elbow. The result is pretty much full coverage of the elbow.
       
      #259 Ipledreamer, Sep 22, 2019
      Last edited: Sep 22, 2019
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    19. Soo...I received the golden colour.
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      Sadly, despite heavy shaking and stirring, the result is basically the same as with the golden spray. Veery blotchy.

      Maybe I should try to give the surface some tooth...because I suspect no matter which colour I use, it needs something to stick to.

      Luckily I kept a pile for scrap aluminium for testing purposes.
       
    20. This is incredible! Repousse isn't easy on a large scale, I don't think I'd ever have the control to go this tiny!!!
       
    21. @feymaker: thank you so much! It really is not that tiny. I admit that I would never try to make this even dir a mini doll. You basically have to make the tools and particularly moulds in that size.
       
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    22. Guilding with a base coat seems to work much better.
       
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    23. Have you tried painting the base white or yellow? In reproduction illumination work, we always have to remember to paint the base to be guilded white or yellow, it helps if any of the leaf or gold paint flakes off. (I always forget this step, and then have to go back...)
       
    24. That grey stuff works great. I just did not get too far, as my daughter needed help.
       
    25. The spur guilding is going nicely.

      What I am really struggling with are the Gothic elbows. These cone shapes are not easy to make. I tried it several times, but it did not goo too well. I think I will make a mould for it snd heat the aluminium. Then I hope that fast hammerwork will do,the trick...
       
    26. I think I figured out how the elbows are shaped:

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      Now I have to figure out, how the arms are connected. I saw that they are put on all at once (except the shoulder parts/pauldrons). Sadly, I have not yet been able to find a picture of an original showing the construction. Almost always, the gauntlets cover most of the vambrace. And then the couter covers the rest, leaving only a marginal gap.
       
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    27. very detailed and very good job. your project is amazing. hope so you will show us the final result.
       
    28. @Anita2006: Thank you so much! Yes, I will finish this. But right now I got astray a...tiny bit. I delved into another hobby of mine, which I need to finish before I can continue with this project.

      Anyways, the spurs are treated with weatherproof outdoor Mod Podge, which needs to dry one full month. I also do not feel to great right now, so I rather want to take it slow. If I am not in the right mood, things tend to go wrong, and I make unneccessary mistakes. I would like to avoid that, so I take a break from metal pounding.
       
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    29. This project is still going on. Right now real life hit me heavily, so the upper half of the armor is on hold. Please take my apologies for letting you wait.
       
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    30. Wow, I don't think I'd have the patience for a project like this, but it's going to look impressive when it's done! Good luck completing it!
       
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    31. I find this so amazing. The detail and the patience. I'm in awe.
       
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    32. Please be assured I will continue to work on this. As my mum has passed away recently, my husband and I are superbusy cleaning her house and sorting everything out. This might still take some time. But when this is done and I had a bit of a rest, I will bang on some aluminium again.
       
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    33. Im so sorry to hear about your loss. My thoughts are with you and your family. Take care of yourself and take your time, we and your projects will still be here.
       
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    34. I'm sorry for your loss. Hang in there, the projects (and your fans!) will be there when you return.
       
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    35. Your work is amazing and thank you for sharing the pictures and videos along the way. I look forward to when you pick up this project again and finish it off. It is going to look amazing I'm sure.
      I'm sorry for you loses along the way and I hope you are in a good place now.
       
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