Worst Body Ever? Dolkot (first version) by a Mile!

Wow umm...just wow...

I have had two Kiss boys in my house and I will say this about the bodies. The torso flopping back and exposing the innerds happens A LOT! There was very seldom a time that I didn't reach into a torso when picking one of them up. The head tilt thing did occur, but that was due to tight stringing and a little tugging at them worked it out and the head moved fine...Umm, not standing? I never had that problem with them. In fact both Kiss bodies I had stood perfectly even on carpet. I didn't restring them or suede them at all. They came to me that way...the arms posed fine and well...I can understand your frustration but I didn't have -that- many problems with them. The biggest thing was the low torso joint that really was a nightmare...

I'm sorry you're so frustrated!! *gives hugs*

 

Wow! Even after sueding and restringing? That's horrible! I've had a few dolkot bodies and they seemed fine . . . I didn't suede or restring them either. I'm sorry to hear your disappointment though! I know what its like to get a doll, and have the body just not be up to par, as my most recent doll purchase has left me very disappointed as well. I hope you can find a way to rectify this!

 

yeah my kiss stands and poses ok ^__^ his middle joint doesn't pop at all.
he does have problems with his knees though, they would not lock. so I wired the legs up to the middle of his stomach and he's been standing just fine

 

Really? My Leaf girl doesn't give me that much problems...she's stood well from the moment she came out her carrier. Her arms are alittle floppy...but that' just because I haven't restrung her yet. Other than that I don't have that torso problem and her knees lock most of the time. Unless she is being difficult.

 

I purchased a used Hara. He is my first doll with the low waist joint, and it does sometimes pop out of place. The same is true of my roommate's Narin boy, though. When I received my Hara, he didn't stand. His legs wouldn't stay straight at all. Sanding, sueding, and restringing done, and he stands great. And now that I know about the waist joint popping out, I'm more careful about how I pick him up, is all.
You really want to talk about bad bodies, talk to someone who's modded a Rasendou doll.

 

Yeah, we've got two dolkot bodies. Wires in the legs prevents the knees from buckling and is cheap and dirt easy to boot. One body has the waist joint pop and his head waggle, but I think that's cause we need to pull more string out of him. He's a little loose. Either than that, they're not bad! I rather like them, even if they're not my ultimate favorites.

 

I have a Dolkot boy body and yesterday I f9inally glue-gun sueded him. It didn't really work on his elbows, but for the shoulders, hips, and knees, it worked great and he can stand easily on his own. I do have problems with the middle popping out, but I think I need to tighten the string.

I'm sorry that your sueding didn't help though. Maybe they're not all made the same? I know how dissappointing it can be to have a doll that doesn't work right.

 

I hate them too but you do get used to them. If you play with your dolls alot you'll soon find yourself automatically holding your dolkot in a way that will keep the torso from popping out.

 

I have to agree, this is the second worst body I've dealt with. I have handled a lot of bodies, and I've extensively modified a Rasendou boy too (who was the WORST body ever)... and I still think this.

I was writing a tutorial on sueding and I had expected it to mostly fix my Dolkot boy. Not so! The stupid brat would still barely stand. I sort of went a little insane and started just modding the joints.... and it's STILL not fixed. He stands much better and his tummy joint doesn't pop out anymore, but... ugh. I still have two major problems left to tackle before I can consider him "fixed." The stringing channels are messed up and the knee joints are poorly thought-out. One leg is also about 1/5th of an inch longer than the other. -_-

The whole modding process will be in the article I'm working on, if I can get it under control.

 

Wow, it sounds like it takes a lot to love one of their dolls. That's really unfortunate. I wonder if they'll look into creating a new body?

 

i don't know, mizunoseiryuu's Kyo had all those problems when he arrived, and i still adored him on sight, i-need-a-wig wig and all, and still do, even after trying a head-swap experiment for a friend left me restringing him unexpectedly when one of his legs fell off (i hadn't realized the elastic for his legs was two separate loops instead of a single one.)

now that he's been sanded, sueded, and restrung, the only continuing problem is the tummy-joint, and even that's not much of a problem. he stands like a ROCK and poses beautifully.

this is not to say the body couldn't benefit from a redesign, though. many could.

 

Maybe I'm just not picky about bodies, but I don't mind the Dolkot one. (Then again, I've only had it for a week.) The tummy on mine pops out all the time too, but that's the only outstanding problem I've had when I've been playing around with it. I have less trouble getting the Dolkot body to stand than my CP one and my DoT one. XD

 

I think any doll with a low waist joint is going to have that pop.Ive seen people with Hounds complain about it alot(something about it being a popping joint of doom...)and Ive seen my sister have to deal with her Dollti Wooyan doing that too.Its definately not just Dolkot though....

 

i dunnno about dollkot but D.i.m. is worse =.= now im reconsidering getting a kiss >.>

 

I thought the DIM SD boy body was bad enough,but I think the Dolkot sounds worse @___@
I guess I should be happy then.

 

This is kind of funny because I was thinking of swapping my Dolkot body for a DIM body because the resin match would be better. Are the newer DIM bodies as bad as the R-Asiam bodies?

 

soom has the lower body joing and Pandora (gena) has never poped out, and i have taken her everywhere and done manything with her sincei got her

 

Actually, CP boys also have a low waist joint, and they don't pop because uhm..how to explain this..because the crotch part-so the lower part-has this big, long part on it that goes into the body, holding the torso part in his place..like how the SD13 bodies kind of have the same thing with their torso..only then with a lower waist joint..

any dolls that don't have that though, are going to pop if they're loosely strung/not sueded/not wired..my friends' Soo Ri also has this popping joint +___+ It happens a looot when he's loose, but when he's restrung, it happens less..

 

I don't have a Dollkot body, nor ever seen one, but the midsection pop sounds like something that plagues the Dollshe boys? is it the same?? because I was going to suggest getting some plastic armatures and putting it inside the body cavity if the hole is big enough ..I know thats what I did with my hound and it helped immensley with his belly pop...he still likes to be a brat and l try but not the the extent it did when I first got him.

And Dimdoll?? where do you want me to start on the female bodies?? she can't sit well, and doesn't stand well..can't pose the hands or feet due to their very breakable wire clasps.....the list goes on...

 

my first Dollkot DEL (Leaf) girl body was THE worst. Couldn't stand to save her life unless you spent god knows how long on balancing her and then she would buckle anyway The Version 2 body is much better but still never going to win any prizes.

 

I don't have a Dollkot body, nor ever seen one, but the midsection pop sounds like something that plagues the Dollshe boys? is it the same?? because I was going to suggest getting some plastic armatures and putting it inside the body cavity if the hole is big enough ..I know thats what I did with my hound and it helped immensley with his belly pop...he still likes to be a brat and l try but not the the extent it did when I first got him.

And Dimdoll?? where do you want me to start on the female bodies?? she can't sit well, and doesn't stand well..can't pose the hands or feet due to their very breakable wire clasps.....the list goes on...

 

I don't have a Dollkot body, nor ever seen one, but the midsection pop sounds like something that plagues the Dollshe boys? is it the same?? because I was going to suggest getting some plastic armatures and putting it inside the body cavity if the hole is big enough ..I know thats what I did with my hound and it helped immensley with his belly pop...he still likes to be a brat and l try but not the the extent it did when I first got him.

And Dimdoll?? where do you want me to start on the female bodies?? she can't sit well, and doesn't stand well..can't pose the hands or feet due to their very breakable wire clasps.....the list goes on...

 

the other day a friend here got a buckle-knee kiss here to restring. He really needs to be strung extremely tight to force the almost non-existant lock to work @.@
it doesn't help that the S-hook shapes are wierd and very difficult to stuff the elastic through it. (the gap was SO TINY)
A tightly strung dolkot body can actually stand pretty well, you'll just have to go through an agonising hour or 2 of restringing

 

I second that! Her legs even buckle when she's in a waist-type doll stand. Yeesh! Which is why she'll be getting a new body ... current favorites are the CP mature body & the Domuya Flexi-body.

 

I just got a DollKot body last week for my R-Asiam head, and it doesn't bother me too bad. We had to restring him because he was insanely tight, and I plan to suede him when I suede my Hound, but.....once you can convince the legs to straighten, he actually stands very well on his own. Maybe it's just that over the past 6 months of having him, I've learned to deal with how floppy my Hound can be...the DollKot legs are just as crazy, but I don't have problems with the waist joint like I do in my Hound. It just takes some working with them, and learning how to handle the bodies.....if you're not patient enough to learn them, then it just won't work out for you.

 

there should be a thread for common problems faced by specific companies. then at least buyers would know what kinds of potential troubles they'd be facing.

is there one? =3

 

Haha I'm really glad that you help out with the restringing. Btw, the boy that Zestroy helped restring is my darling. I have to say when I first got him, he could hardly stand without me sweating and swearing but after the restring, he's a dear now with posing and I had alot of fun.

 

So what body would work well with a Dolkot head? -runs off to check-

 

I ordered my Dolkot body during the time that Dolkot was improving their bodies, and after getting him, he's doing pretty great! He stands (depending on his mood lol) and he poses (sueding and wiring might make his poses ten times better though).

He had a strange problem with his head not being able to pose up, but after time he was able to (weird). Another strange thing is that Larue tends to go pigeon-toed whenever I stand him (but it doesn't really bother me, I think it's cute XD).

Yes, and I do have the torso popping problem like most of you guys do...^^' It's annoying sometimes.

 

*raises hand* my Rasendo was my first, and he almost turned me off of BJDs, but thankfully my Volks Syo arrived and then I was like, 'Ohhhhhh, ok I get it'. And have spent hours since trying to fix him. He still won't free stand though.

 

I thought I would add an update to my disgruntled comment above, written on 10/10/2006. I recently did the hot glue "sueding" on my husband's first generation Dark Elf Leaf ... and the girl can STAND now! By herself! EASILY!!! No wiring, nothing but the addition of hot glue. Oh joyousness! Needless to say, we are no longer contemplating a new body for her.

 

I notice the angle on the Dollkot neck has a built-in lean towards the front. Some heads put on it, if their neck-holes are set to the back, will automatically get positioned chin-down.

 

Speaking of other companies' bodies, I'm not a huge fan of the Angel Region mini bodies; they're cranky to stand and you need to string them HORRIFICALLY tight to get any kind of posability from them. All of my trouble with one was post-sueding, too!

 

I hope Dolkot improve their bodies soon, hearing all these stories about Dolkot bodies scare me lol

*is hopefully going to bring a Dolkot Hara home soon* I wonder if it'll have the kicky-leg syndrome.

 

Dolkot has recently revamped/fixed their boy bodies. I have a new body DK Kiss and he's a dream to stand.Admittedly he is strung extremely tight, but I can leave him standing unaided for days at a time. Guess I've just been extremely lucky.

 

I got one of the updated dolkot bodies (my order from dolkot was delayed 10 weeks in total while they worked on the new joints), and I'm not impressed. My Hara's body is still pretty crappy; the joints are really slick and he doesn't stand. He also has that insanely pop-y hip joint.

I've restrung, and am in the process of sueding. His arms and hips are a bit better after some sueding, but the legs are yet to be done, so I dunno how well that will go over.

 

As difficult as the body is I think there will be people still interested in buying it. Don't worry!

 

So hot glue sueding is fine? No need to go and buy suede and do it that way?

 

I love my Snapey-boy (Dolkot Loon). He's torso is fine. He's legs were a little kicky but the smallest amount of hot glue sueding fixed that.

-Anneke

 

I have two boys with a lower body joint, and my Hound sounds like the Dolkot body - constant tummy pop and ill-locking legs, but that could just be lousy stringing. He can stand pretty well if you're paitent though. My Lati Red also has the lower body joint, but he doesn't pop at all. Could be because the torso and pelvis part fit very securely together, and he's pretty tightly strung.

 

Edited because it made me sound like a whiny brat. >D

 

You could say this worries me...I wanted to have a female Loon but Im not seen keen on the body now. Has anyone put a Loon or other type with a better body (Im thinking a CP) or is it just too hard to get a resin match?

 

eek! this thread sounds so ominous! i was planning on getting a kiss!(ha ha, the doll not the display of affection XD) but it sounds like they're pretty hit and miss.(rhymed!) agh. i guess he'll be a learning experience ^^;

 

Are the female bodies just as bad as the male?

 

Oh my sweet heavens, YES. My husband has one of the first Dark Elf Leafs. When she arrived, all her limbs tended to twist in their sockets. He would just pick her up and both her legs would start rotating to the back. Very "Exorcist"! And the poor dear never, never stood. In fact, with her odd midsection joint, she had a tendency to suddenly slump for no reason.

BUT WAIT!!!! A month or so ago, I decided to try the hot glue "sueding" method and it's made a huge improvement. No more slumping or weirdly twisty limbs. And, if we're very careful, she can actually stand by herself.

Hot glue = Leaf's new best friend. There's a thread with instructions somewhere in the customizing section, which I highly recommend.

 

I have one of the newer improved Dolkot male bodies on my White Kiss (or that is what I was told his body is). I haven't had the kind of trouble with his legs and knees that have been mentioned about the previous Dolkot male bodies. What it seems more so with mine is his stringing (or something) is very tight and it's very hard to move all his joints including his head. He is so stiff! The stomach still pops in and out (which is annoying)...and he does have a tendency to fall while placed standing like he's having trouble balancing still.

But the flopping over or non-locking knees actions are gone on mine. He's very solid. I am happy with the improvements made to his knees.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Kiss from them, even though he's so stiff. I would rather see my boy's head on a LUTS White Boy body though if the resin matched better to it...but I love the Dolkot design for the Kiss, body and all and I hope later on he'll loosen up a bit.

 

oh yea, I had handled 2 older kisses recently and I found that stringing them really loosely is much easier to make them stand. It might just be me though.. since I am extremely used to handling loosely strung dolls.

 

I detest my Kiss' body. The knees never lock, he hates staying straight in his bag, his lower torso joint pops constantly and due to how the neck is angled, he has a permanently stooped look to him that I can't adjust. I've restrung him, but that torso joint really is a complete nightmare.

My Moon might be floppy and have crazy legs, but his back doesn't randomly break and leave him bending at unnatural angles.

 

mmm my old dolkot body is not too bad...he actually stands better than my moon did prior to sueding...he's still horrendous, but I have worse dolls :P I think it's definitely in the stringing; mine is far too tightly strung at the moment. I have 2 new dolkot boys incoming...I'll try to compare the new and old when they get here.

 

My leaf is the first and only BJD I've had, so maybe I've never experienced a doll that stands up on her own. I've never restrung her or modded her joints in any way, but her knees and ankles have never been stable enough for her to stand on her own.
Still, I would never have picked a different doll. In my mind, nothing measures up to how lovely she is.

 

I bought a used Dolkot body (boy) from the market here, and now have a Lupinus head on it. I think the stringing it came with is a bit tight, but I glue-sueded the joints, and I think he poses and stands very nicely. The knees could use wires as well, since I find that a lot of knees without anything to keep them from bending the wrong way also tend to bend too much. I also love the finger positions on the hands, very expressive. Overall, I've found it a decent body for a single-jointed one.