So.... please keep in mind this is hypothetical at the moment. I am still waiting to hear from customs as to why my doll has been held since the 14th I think I may be running into a dilemma where I will be charged customs fees to get my doll purchased second hand because it may have been marked incorrectly. If this is the situation, I personally think the seller should pay as they are the ones who marked the package wrong. BTW, this is a SOOM MD comming in from Canada to the US insured for $1400. Anyone run into this situation or have opinions?
That is my understanding too, but what if it wasn't marked as such? Like, what if it was just marked as goods(or something that does incur fees) (The reason I am thinking there are fees is because of what Customs has told me so far....)
I don't think it would be the seller's fault if they marked it "goods" though. I don't see how "goods" is inaccurate or marked wrongly - it's unspecific, yes, but technically this item is goods. I mean, it's not as if the seller is being untruthful, and sellers can't be expected to know the ins and outs of the customs code of every country. If you and the seller had agreed beforehand that the package needed to be marked 'doll' and then the seller forgot to do so, then I would say it's the seller's fault.
Unless you specifically asked the seller to mark it down, then logically it should be the seller's responsibility.
IMO it's the buyer's responsibility to pay any customs fee. You're the one importing the doll and it's your country that's charging the fees.
Most sellers on the boards here, and the companies, mark dolls as dolls or doll items. You will not pay a cent, and even if the seller did not mark it as a doll, you still have to pony up the money. Otherwise, they send it back.
If the package is not marked as doll (which would mean there would be no fees, according to US law), then rather than trying to get the seller to pay fees if customs charges you, I would suggest getting in contact with customs and contesting the fee. Figures in the human image (which includes dolls) are not supposed to have customs fees, whether they're marked as "dolls" or "goods" or "toys." If customs charges you fees, then they have made a mistake.
I'm not sure on customs in the states. But if the package is worth that much, and it IS goods, so what if you have to pay customs? You are legally obligated to. Asking the seller to mark down is asking them to commit a minor fraud for you.. while they do bear responsibility if they had previously promised to, if they did it without instructions regarding it, it's the buyer's responsibility.
Do you actually know if the delay is with the US Customs?? Or you are just not seeing any update on USPS web site?? When an item gets to US, it does not physically go to the customs only the paperwork does. In the past I have had item whose status showed in customs clearance (and I called US Customs and got yelled at and got absolutely no help from US Customs because they cannot trace your package your custom entry does not really reflect the USPS tracking number, thus they are NOT willing to even bother with entertaining your question or search) but the package actually got delivered to me later that day or the next day. A package still needs to be routed after it cleared customs thus may take sometimes before it gets to you. Thus I would not so quick to assume that US Customs is trying to charge you a fee If they will, they will contact you directly. And if that happens you can ask them to inspect the package thus they would know what kind of item is inside and thus proof that it is duty-exempt
That's really interesting, Kiyakotari, that items in a human image don't get charged customs. I wonder why. I've never had to pay customs on anything I've ordered from overseas, even Amazon and so forth, but then again I've never bought anything so expensive (other than my car and my house, of course). Thank you, nanlady, for pointing out that it would be asking the seller to commit fraud. I had someone once buy something from me on ebay and then freak out after the sale because I wouldn't lie on the customs forms!
I am not asking the seller to commit fraud. I specifically asked for it to be insured for the full amount, and did not ask for it to be marked incorrectly in any way (I would assume it would have been marked as a doll because that is what it is) USPS tracking says my item has "arrived at the United States in ISC CHICAGO IL (USPS) at 5:10 AM on January 14, 2010." I called USPS today to see if they knew anymore detail on it and they "assumed" it was in customs. I then contacted the customs office for that location and they have not been able to get me any real information. One woman(who didnt have access to help with my package) just guessed that there were fees because of the value of the doll. I wasn't trying to auto assume there were fees, I hadn't thought of it until the Customs lady said something about it. Well, I hope they would call me on it. But most of my research I have done has looked like they send you a letter in the mail about it in around 30 days(at the earliest). That is something I do NOT want. ============================================== Thanks for all the answers guys n gals!
She was wrong. As Kiyakotari explained, dolls are specifically exempted from Customs duty by US law. (When I brought my ShinyDoll Akali back from Japan, the Customs officer actually used her duty-exemption status as a pop quiz for his trainee assistant!) If you should be charged duty because the package isn't marked "doll" or "doll items," then you can absolutely contest the duty charges with US Customs. I really doubt that that will happen, though. At certain times of the year, I've often experienced long and unexplained delays at the US ports of entry for doll shipments--January is one of those times. I've had doll packages get held up for as long as ten or twelve days, for no visible reason; the tracking didn't update during that whole time, but eventually the package got moving again and was delivered without any problems (not opened by Customs, not damaged or interfered with in any way). My guess is that from time to time the Customs staff are shorthanded, or else flooded with packages to deal with . . . or both.
My package was marked incorrectly, I have to pay the fee and then contact the customs office with my proof of what I paid and the customs form attached. Then they will re-assess it and hopefully I will get some money back. I know its different in UK, but this is my situation.
Luckily I have found out from the seller that it was marked as a resin doll, so I'm confident I won't be charged fees for that at least. I've actually been blogging about the ordeal if anyone is interested. http://xxailon.blogspot.com/ took video of my first call to The customs guy this morning. This is gonna be an uphill battle.
Did your tracking info say it had entered customs though? Mine hasn't. It just says it's an incomming package.
Like Cynthia said, sometimes packages just sit in Customs for a few days or more. ^^;; I did a trade with someone in Canada and my doll outfits were worth only about $200, but they still sat in Customs for about a week. I was not charged any fees. The only time I've ever heard of people in the US being charged any sort of fees is when an item is sent using a private courier service like Fed Ex or DHL which will stick you with "brokerage" fees, but they're not actually Customs. Good luck and hopefully you will get your doll soon!
I will say that none of the packages I have ever had come through that enter customs ever show as actually being in customs. They'll almost always just say incoming and list the airport they are at. I've had boxes chill at JFK for over a week, and I assume it is because Customs has a backlog for whatever reason.
Don't get mad, but I think you're overreacting just a little bit USPS tracking sucks, they never update "as soon as new information is available" like they say. I've mailed a doll to US a few months ago and it's been stuck on same "incoming mail" status for a week and it's only been updated after a note was left for the buyer and she had gone to PO to receive the package. Chances are your package is out of customs already and will be delivered any day now. I assume it's not EMS shipping, but Registered Airmail?
This. Sometimes the tracking says "inbound into Customs," but more often it's just "incoming" + airport.
Thanks for the info! I've only ever had items come through LA and San Fran.... and every time they say when they are going into customs. Which I guess is why I was scared that Euclase was stuck in limbo. Guess we don't have a unified customs/importing system in the US (*gasp* who would have ever though?! lol) I'm not really mad now because I have found out from the seller that the package was marked correctly so I feel better knowing I won't be paying 21% of $1400 just to get my package. I would have been angry if the package was miss-labeled and I had to pay customs fees because of it. It was mailed as "Expedited USA" I certainly hope you are right and it will show up as a surprise today or tomorrow!