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Where are all the Dollshe Bermanns?

Oct 21, 2004

    1. Didn't a few people get Dollshe Bermann's recently? James got his and has disappeared into his sewing room..... where are the rest?
       
    2. my little Bowen is in Taiwan right now.
      oh...>.< i miss him so much...so wanna hug him... :(

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    3. Very cool! And what is he doing in Taiwan? What do you think of him? No one posts about him much. Christy and I were the only ones that adored him when we got him off the first pre-order last year. A couple of the others sold him off immediately, wasn't well accepted. Was wondering what people thought of him now.
      Thanks for the photo!
      Karin
       
    4. Hey, I adored him too! I just didn't buy one.

      I am happy to admire yours and Christy's from afar. ^_^
       
    5. Ahh! Its the John Denver Bermann!! :love

      Bermann is such a cool guy, it'd be awesome to see more photoshoots of the new ones who found their way home. :grin:

      tamara
       
    6. :cry:
      Waaah! Where was I when poor Bermann was being rejected?!
      Dagnabit......I spent too long in Himstedt-land and missed all the good dolls.
      :(
      Michelle
       
    7. I don't have one, but I bet if I had gotten in BJDs any sooner I would've snatched him for sure. I love Bermann... he's so gorgeously creepy. ^^;
       
    8. Ooh...I love Bermann. I personally like his more "mature" face, but I didn't know about bjd's when all the reselling was going on...so I missed out. I wouldn't have had the funds anyway. lol But you know, I could certainly due with seeing some more pictures of Bermann. *hint hint to all you lucky enough to own one types out there*
       
    9. i was kind of iffy on bermann until i saw owner pictures. of course, by then it was too late.

      I wish i had more money and could backtrack in time- I would totally own a bermann! But, alas, the money is short (i'm moving ^_^) and they are no longer up for sale :)

      I'll just content myself staring at the lovely pics! :grin:
       
    10. I did not mean to give the impression that a hord of them were sold the first time out!
      I only know of two that did not stay with the original owners and were sold pretty quickly.

      I just really thought more sold around here this last order and wondered where they were. I don't know where all of the orginal 4 are, only 3 of them now 1 of the second group.

      Karin
       
    11. There were two orders of Bermann? Maybe there'll be a third. Thrird time's a charm and all that. x3;;
       
    12. I don't think so. I was surprised that he did a second order. "Mr. Dollshe", I can't remember his name right now, was only going to make 27 total. Supposedly, Bermann is modeled after himself. He is very tall Korean that is athletic (a runner). He was supposedly working on a new girl for this year but have not heard anything else about her.

      Karin
       
    13. I would really like to have a Bermann, sooner or later.

      I must say I like the default make up he has in the pics in his Korean online shop very much.

      He looks very sweet in them! :daisy

      To tell the truth, I generally prefer sweet-looking boy dolls instead of the "cool" and "masculine" ones, this is why I didn't order a Bermann.

      I thought he looked too "grown up", too "manly" for my liking...

      But then I saw some pics of him and suddenly fell in love with him...

      But it was too late!! :cry:

      I really hope someone who doesn't like him will sell his to me, when I have saved enough money to afford him and the several other dolls I'm in love with.

      Or maybe they will release a third group of Bermann dolls in a few months... :daisy

      At least, I hope so! :wink:

      Cheers!

      PS: I need to explain that I LIKE cool looking boy dolls, but I prefer looking at them rather than owning them! :daisy
       
    14. What only ONE pic?

      You Bermann owners have to do better than that! :o

      For those of us who don't own one ....we want to see this guy. :D
       
    15. Here is my handsome B-Boy......

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      Karin
       
    16. Berman's size intimidates me tons. He's just SO huge. When I had the money, I could have gotten him, but decided against it. He just doesn't -do it- for me, so to speak. I do enjoy looking at his pics, though. :)
       
    17. Karen -Your b-boy is so cool. I think he looks best done up as a sort of creepy goth boy. Can't wait to see how James "duds" his up. :wink:

      Would love to see someone do a cosplay of their Berman as Dream from Sandman... :chibi

      I will join the crowd of "I would have gotten one if I'd known about bjd sooner." :crushed

      Alas, I think I will buy myself a Happydoll Arthur, one of these days... Speaking of mature men. :|
       
    18. I'd heard rumors that Dollshe was planning on coming out with another male doll - like Bermann, but a different face - some time in the (unknown) future. Has anyone else heard this?

      **drools**

      Also, for those of you who have Bermanns...does anyone have an SD13 boy, and can take pictures of them together for us? I'm wondering about scale stuff....
       
    19. oh my goodness, yes! :D I think I would melt into a puddle of goo at the beauty of that, definitely. I loooove Berman; I think he's the first boy doll that I've really fallen hard for. His hands, his face... :chibi
       
    20. At first, Bermann used to kinna scare me, I think his eyes seemed off or something at the time but I've fallen in love with him after looking at other members' pics here. XD
      I was about to go on a hunt to find out where to get him and then read he's no longer sold~ I love his more mature and masculine face, he's almost close enough to being the "perfect boy" that I've been wanting to get. :D

      Hopefully there will be another mature/masculine sculpt by someone....
       
    21. sorry for the blurry pix,
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      bowen with his brother, owen.

      bermann and me the story has go back a year ago,
      when the first time i saw him i totally fall in love with him.
      but i wasnt sure if i'm ready for this kinda big boy,
      i did plan to order when the first pre-order comes out, but i didnt. :(
      later i couldnt find anymore bermann to order, i was so regret.
      thank god! i was able to order a bermann from the second pre-order!
      ((actually i order from someone order the second pre-order, long story))
      he's just my type! i love him so much!
      um...i'm a student in boston, but i'm actually from taiwan! :oops:
      so bowen is in taiwan with my other bjds. really miss him...>.<
       
    22. Linda,
      Welcome to this country! Is this the first time here? What do you think of all us?
      Are the BJDs more popular in Tawain than here? Are there any companies there that make similar dolls? Do you have Tawainese personal websites of other peoples dolls?

      I am so sorry for all the questions, but it interests me to see what is going on in other parts of the world with these lovely kids!

      Here is a comparison shot that I took awhile back of all the boys and girls that I had at the time.
      http://www.krbussman.com/Misc/boycomparisonshots.html

      I see you have Omiclon!!!!! Very lovely boy! Love Hyperies!

      Karin
       
    23. I'm not Linda, but I can tell you that the last time I went to Taiwan with my MSD Ken, I scared a heck of a lot of people. :oops: My college aged cousin and her friends kept calling him The Corpse. :|
       
    24. Ha! That is pretty much what we get here!
      Karin
       
    25. Bermann arrived at our house a week or so ago - and my daughter is in love. His hands and body sculpt are exquisite.

      but.....

      I've got some reservations myself - A Souldoll arrived at the same time, and the difference in the resin is incredible - Souldoll's is translucent - Bermann's is pitted around his ears and feet especially, and very matt almost chalky. his faceup has to come off - which I think will really change how I feel about him - but we haven't had time to approach that yet. With the incredible delicacy and detail in his hands and torso - i was surprised by the squareness of his head!

      and the poor dear cant sit, can't stand, but he lounges very beautifully ---- and he gets really grouchy when we try to put clothes on him!!!! hmmm - actually with his beautiful body, maybe he need some hakama pants and a beautiful body tattoo..... and none of my SD wigs fit him - his head is smaller than SD, but seems to be larger than mini - so I need to go get some new wigs and eyes for him.....

      anyway - i don't know if this is an issue with others - but i am needing to work a bit at the bonding with him........
       
    26. I had to restring and suede my Bermann's double joints! It was a chore but he poses beautifully now. The pits in the resin are air bubbles, but I have not noticed any on my guy. I love the resin, it makes him, him. Perfect color for his attitude. Every doll that you get from different companies are going to have their own unique resin look and mix.

      I really would hate for you to be disappointed with him, I would be more than happy to buy him off you!!! I would love a twin for my B-Boy!

      Karin
       
    27. Hi !

      What did you mean by those words, exactly?

      Has your Bermann got some kind of stringing problems, by chance?

      All the best,
       
    28. Yikes! :o

      There are still only 3 pics??? You guy have to do better than that!!

      I think there should be a beauty contest for Bermann. Who's got the best pic of this guy?
       
    29. Christy does the best photos of Bermann, hands down!
      Karin
       
    30. hi guys,

      I'm sure you are right - I'm trying to figure if he is too tightly strung, or too loose. His legs don't "lock" into place in a straight position, and his torso keeps slumping --- maybe he is too loose?

      Karin - I know I need to take him apart and restring him and suede him, but I'm kind of nervous - especially because I'm a little afraid of all the pitting - my Bermann is one that was probably poured either during or just after the rains - he doesn't have any pitting on his face, but his ears and toes are pretty affected. So I'm a little nervous about sanding him at all.

      Don't get me wrong, he is a very beautiful doll --- his resin is such a pale pale color - I need to hold him against my BW shiwoo elf to see how he compares..... and I love his joints - they are truly spectacular. I like the Hakama idea - but probably won't do the tattoo unless I get much more comfortable with his resin...

      hey Karin,
      If i fail to bond - I'll definitely keep you in mind. I would love for him to be in such a great family.

      take care
      patl
       
    31. Patl,
      You want to post some close ups of the pits? That can't be that deep that they can't be sanded out.

      Restring and sueding Bermann is the biggest task that you will ever have to do with these dolls as far as I am concerned. It is not hard just very time comsuming. You must take off each piece and lay it in order. The little "cap" that sits on the top and bottom of each joint must go back the same way. There is a left and a right and a upper and lower. They are shaped differently although slightly.

      If I had time I would offer to work on him for you, but I don't have time for my real family right now and they yell louder!

      Karin
       
    32. Karin if you want a Bermann can't you just order him?
       
    33. I already have a Bermann. But.... if I did want another he is no longer available, at all, unless you find one on the secondary market.
      Karin
       
    34. [​IMG]

      nah, i have been in boston area for about two years.
      i love to read through all the posts in my free time as a way to improve my english.
      bjd is getting popular in taiwan and hong kong in these two years.
      i even see it on newspapers, some articles said bjd is the "new fashion trend."
      this is the photo from a hong kong local magazine(2003),
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      the magazine is saying bjd is the most cool "toy" for next year(2004),
      and it did a little introduction on the ai's body, also the hong kong limited ai.
      it's great started to see more more sd/bjd on newspapers and magazine.

      there are few people who make the head only and sell it on taiwan yahoo auction.
      here is one:
      http://tw.f2.page.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/b16203574

      if you wanna see more chinese websites,
      this is a good place to start: http://bjdl.hk.st/
      i hope i help.

      btw...
      i also love omiclon! he's a sweet boy. looking forward for the new hyperdolly in november!
       
    35. Auucckkk! Another whole new world of Auctions! Just what I need! Ooooh! Pretty!

      Thanks for taking the time and talking about the magazines and newspapers. I will also take my time and go through the link for websites! I love to see what people in other countries are doing with them!

      New hypers...... Also Serendipity is coming out with a boy in November, then there is Narin..... It's going to be an expensive pre-Christmas!

      Thanks again,
      Karin
       
    36. Linda!
      I know who you are!!! Sorry! I was looking at the link you posted and saw your Bermann and DAH!!!!
      Sorry,
      Karin
       
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      ohoh! that's great to hear serendipity is coming out a new boy!
      i also heard blue fairy is coming out three new tiny fairy. (2 boy + 1 girl)
      are you talking about narin doll? i just order my narea in october.
      narea now renamed to zora, she's coming home in the first week of november.
      this x'mas is crazy for me, so many wonderful new bjds! dont forget dp12 is also coming up! :D
       
    38. That is a very nice photo of your Bermann! Ahhh! He is so handsome. Mine is the only doll that I have sitting in my living area. The rest are in my room where I sew and play.

      Yes, was thinking about getting a Narin boy and girl during the November order period, now I don't know if I should just get the Serendipity boy and call it a day.....

      I don't want to start up anything, this is just my own personal taste and opinion but... Volks hasn't done anything that has knocked me off my feet in over a year. They just seem all the same to me.

      Did you hear if Hyperdolly is coming out with a new one in November? I heard a quick comment but can't remember where or if I dreamt it!

      Can't wait to hear what you think about your Narin! Please let me know. Do you have a U-Noa to compare it too?

      I am sitting here staring at my Eujquiv begging her to tell me what kind of outfit she wants! I feel like sewing tonight but she is not co-operating here!!!

      Karin
       
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      to Karin:
      thank you.
      i think your bermann and other bermann has more mature look than mine.
      bowen sometimes seem childish with his brothers, and he sometimes smile, really sweet.
      i wish i have the pix when he's smiling. :( the pix is in my photo cd which i left in taiwan.

      i plan to get narea twins, if i like zora.
      i'll post lots pix when i get her! i cant wait to see her! :D
      i was thinking get a narin, too. but i dont like small male bjd.
      do you already have pix of the new serendipity boy? oh, i wanna see him!

      i dont have a u-noa to compare with narea,
      but if you check narin doll's website, they have body pictures.
      narin doll's body does look like u-noa's a lot, but anyway, the face is totally different.
       
    40. Linda,

      That is a gorgeous shirt he has on in this last picture!

      I am not concerned of Narin and U-Noa being the same as so much of what you personally thought of each one on their own merits. I do like their faces much more than U-Noa.

      I do not have photo yet of Serendipity boy, I hope soon though.

      I have been surprised of the different face ups each of the Bermann's have that I have seen. I did darken my up a bit with some shadowing on the face and added lashes. He is my most handsome boy, I think...

      Karin
       
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      to Karin:

      some ppl say narin doll's body looks like u-noa,
      and i think i saw a post somewhere in doa talk about narin doll.
      some say narin doll copy u-noa's body "function."
      which like move the eyes to the right or left without opening the head.
      imho, i feel if we really have to be picky, then most of the bjd companies copy each other.
      i simply love the face of narea. ^^ i saw few pix on the korean forums.
      from what i see narin doll's body skin color is very much like soul doll, looks really good.
      ((unlike the pix on narin doll's website))

      i'm hoping volks will comes out a good sd13 boy for my type.
      or otherwise i'll go for a happy doll authur. authur looks like bermann a little.
      i think authur is the younger ver. of bermann. haha, just my opinion.

      bermann is really amazing. i just love him! :D
       
    42. Linda,
      I know, I got an email from Bimong, here is part of it:

      I like Unoa.
      And manufactured Narin&Narae by only my methodology.
      Narin&Narae is function developed more.
      I am hearing news that is preparing litigation in Japan.
      But, it can not succeed.
      There is no part such as the doll.
      Japan did not succeed although put on trial action to Korean doll company before.
      I am KoreaBallJointeddoll Association's representative.( http://www.ladoll.com )
      I am no part that mistake by legal to them.( http://www.bimong.com )
      I am teaching only my unique techniques to students

      If I understand the photos on his website properly. The eye mechanism is worked by moving the hands or arms. I may still order both in November. I just hate sewing for too many of the tiny ones! I left 16" fashion dolls because my eyes and fingers hurt so much after sewing for them for a couple of years.

      I agree, I think Arthur looks a lot like Bermann. He has a lot of the same chiseled features. More mature looking. I have Margo and I adore her, though she does look a bit anorixic!

      My spelling is terrible without word check!!!

      Karin
       
    43. Karin,

      thanks for the information.
      i'm glad to hear Bimong has faith in his narin doll.

      now i really cant wait to see narea.
      >_< oh...november...it's so hard to wait.
       
    44. Now you've got me curious about his joint system. Can anyone get me some nice closeupf of a knee joint, or an elbow, or a better nude picture? His tall lanky body facinates me beyond all comprehention.
       
    45. It apears to me from the hand structure of this doll, that he is patterned after someone that is an XYY male. That would also account for his taller structure. I love his look. Of course my first husband had that look...
       
    46. Wow! I didn't like Bermann at all until I saw Karin's and I must say, he's absoulutely gorgeous! I'd never consider getting one myself though, he's just not my type. :oops:
       
    47. I love him! Something about his stature and expression seems to set him apart... He has such a deep pensive look to him. Not to mention that I've seen pics of Berman where I've SWORN he was real! :o

      And I love his hands. Many people probably don't cause they're very detailed and vein-y. But that's what I love about them!
       
    48. I just love Bermann's hands. The veins and he even has a wrist bone!

      From what I am told Bermann was made in the likeness of the owner of Dollshe. I was told that he is very tall and lanky for a Korean and can be seen about the crowds on the streets. He is also a runner and trains a lot.
       
    49. Berman is an interesting doll, but not really my style. It's cool how he has all the extra joints and stuff though. Very lovely pics everyone. :) Oh I don't suppose we could see some body shots? I've seen a few before, but I'd like to see more.

      http://tw.f2.page.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/b16203574

      I can't read chinese, is that a modified F-08 head? They did a very good job with the modification...
       
    50. Bowan is my favorite Berman. But Berman is one of my favorite BJDs. I'd never want to own him, but I was very gleeful when I finally found a nice picture of him that I could nick and hide away in my folder to look at sometimes. His face is really nice, but the hands are my favorite thing. I just like hands that look alive and real.
       
    51. Hi Zalem!

      I just recently took Vincent apart and put some wire in him for improved stability and took some body photos. Here are a few shots that illustrate his joints and range of motion:

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      He was trying to do sit-ups here and fell over! :daisy
       
    52. WOW! :o

      I LOVE his body! And those joints are REALLY interesting. I've never seen a joint system like that. Do the thinner pieces between the limb opening and the main join part slide out/around for extra flexibility? That's what it looks like...

      :( Now I REALLY wish I'd knuckled under and gotten a Bermann when I had the chance...
       
    53. Hey Kiyakotari :wink:

      Yeah, those extra pieces also move. He really has a nice range of motion with those. Of course, they don't lend well to an aesthetic look, but they are very effective for getting tight motion on the joints that would 'stretch' with the normal ball joint anyway.... :oops:
       
    54. Hey Christy! Vinnie looks fabulous doing his work out!!! When you wired him, you had to take him all apart again? I was thinking of doing mine but if I have to take him apart, I will wait until I have more time after the 1st of the year. You just can't shove it up like the other bj?

      Karin *waving at Christy and cousin Vinnie*
       
    55. Hey Karin!! :wink:

      I sort of did it the lazy backwards way...I didn't want to take his feet apart so I started at the head. Everything came apart but his legs. I had the elastic inside still and resting between the legs inside the hip section. So all I had to do was take the torso apart. He needed repair anyway on some suede that was coming off. (speaking of...before, I had been gluing the suede in with the smooth side down and the fuzzy side up. Last night I switched it and tried it the other way and it grabs better--maybe {before} I was doing it wrong all along??)

      Anyway...I just folded the wire in half, twisted it a couple times--and then where it split, each split went down his thighs to his knees and stopped. I didn't even TRY to continue wire through his joints. But the wire probably extends up his torso about midway through his chest. It's some grounding wire I got at the local hardware store. It's insulated too so it's easy to work with. It's thick, but still thin enough to bend easily. It REALLY helps with the torso too which was needed for him badly.

      So the wire acted like a sort of 'pole' for me to stack his stomache and torso back onto and VOILA! You don't even have to take his arms out to do this...although I did since his arms needed a bit of repair too.

      The only thing with taking him apart backwards like this from the head is when he goes back together you have to grab your string tool and grab the hook back up through the neck and into the head which took alot of muscle and profanity (being it was late-night after work....ugh!) ....and TAH-DAH! He was fully attached again! It really wasn't that hard...but I know what you mean about taking him apart. Remember too....all of the parts on the right side have those little dots etched into them. That helps...but I sorta sueded over a couple of those, so you still have to keep track a little.

      Waves back frantically!! :love
       
    56. Sounds like a plan! I think my New Years resolution will be to go through each doll one by one and make them just absolute perfect no matter what each one calls for. For the most part all mine are sanded perfectly, except two of the newer ones, but there are several others that could use some tweaking, sueding and wiring.

      Sueding! That is the way I was told to do it. Rough side out. Hmm..gonna have to try that the other way. Thanks for all the tips on B-Boy!

      Karin *waves*
       
    57. WOW!, those are great pics!! ive never seen really good pics of Bermans joints before, truly amazing... Vincent looks awesome in all of his pics!

      Berman is deff my favorite resin bjd made to date,..seeing a pic of him last year is actually what inspired me to create my own doll, I just love his tall lanky proportions, i really wish there were more mature dolls like him :grin:
       
    58. Yes, they rather look like skeleton joints, lol. I'm surprised no one else has made a doll with a similar system, but maybe that's the reason.
       
    59. *ears prick* Do you have any pictures of your own creation?
       
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