Supplies What Materials for Faceups?

I was actually talking about the default face up she came with ^_^;;

 

Hi hi!

I have never had much luck removing just part of a face-up. There's usually a coating over the whole face - Mister Super Clear or something like it - which turns white when you put apply remover. Very VERY lightly sanding the coating MAY work to remove just a section, but if you can get the effect you want without removing the original (e.g. darkening the lips) then just paint over the top of the old face-up. If you want to redo eyebrow shape, I'd try the sanding... but you might end up having to wipe the whole thing and start again anyway.

Good luck, anyway. Face-ups are fun! ^_^

 

oooh, I see; sounds like I probably will have to wipe the whole face-up T_T hmm.. now I'm not sure if I want to do it myself or not, the thought of having to do the eyebrows and eyelashes are a bit intimidating lol

 

Hey Nyx,

If it helps, I do what Helene does for eyebrows (er, I think!). I use a flat-edged brush to draw a line of pastel in the right place, thinning and shaping it using an eraser (one of those eraser-pencils, sharpened to a point or at least with a sharp edge). Then MSC, then watercolour pencils for hair lines (erasing problems with water on a q-tip, blotting with that grey art gummi eraser to make the lines less distinct if necessary). Also watercolor pencils for lower eyelashes.

What freaks me out is the blushing. I just haven't got the pastel/brush combo quite right. But I'm getting better. ^_^

 

A Note on high grit Sandpaper: You can find the super high stuff (3000 grit and 6000 grit) in the automotive section of Wal-Mart and in any auto parts store because it is used to fix flaws in chrome. Buying it elsewhere, I.E. Hobby sites, will mean extraordinary prices for just an itty bitty 3in by 3in square.

In case you're wondering, I use 600 grit for actual shaping or removing face-ups, then use the 3000 grit to smooth it all out, evening the texture.

 

okay this might seem like a total dum and newbie thing to ask but I am going to be doing a basic face-up on my obistu boy jun fairly soon, and I was just wondering what the basic recommended supplies you would need are?

I am also planning purchasing a few resin heads off of ebay probably in the next few weeks and I was just wondering if there is any major difference in painting on vinyl and resin.

but yes if you have any favorite types of brushes or paints please say and be specific, I honestly need to go out and buy some new paint brushes soon, and if I get the kinds I need for the face ups when I go and get my regular art supplies that would be very helpful.
thank you!

 

Your question can be answered by merely looking in the stickies here:

http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?173416-Customizing-Thread-Index&p=6093458

Stickies are your best friend, you should always take a look through them to see if your question has already been answered before.

 

forgive me if this may have already been asked sorta sleepy and not quite with it as I could be.

are many of those products you mentioned aside from mr super clear which I heard someone earlier say you need to order.
can be purchased at hobby or craft stores in the u.s. like Michaels or Hobby Lobby?

 

MSC will need to be ordered, as I don't think there are any local art stores that carry it. However, Testors Dullcote is comparable and is sold at Michaels. You may have to buy a couple cans, as they are small and run out faster than you might think, but they're only a few dollars a can (as opposed to the $15+ it costs to order MSC).

 

just another quick question if I may someone on here mentioned liquitex paints for using in face-ups
would these kinds work http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000JESVA8/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000KNLE3E&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=123M0EN6G19QAPKZKC8H

or are there better kinds to use.

 

ok, so I decided I was brave enough to remove her whole faceup and try to do my own faceup today XD I just have a quick question; I successfully removed the whole faceup except for in the crease of the lips (the q-tips couldn't reach it, and the soft bristle toothbrush didn't work either). Would it be okay to just leave it there, reseal the head, and then paint over it? I wasn't sure if it would be okay or not ^_^;;

 

Hi hi! ^_^

Try a toothpick. It should absolutely okay to leave it there and paint over it though.

 

I'm also thinking about doing a little bit of body blushing on my doll, but I can't tell if it has any sealant on it or not (as it didn't come with any body blushing); should I just go ahead and apply a few layers of sealant before blushing, or do they normally come with sealant already on the body?

 

Normally dolls dont come sealed, so if you wanna doll body-blushing, you should definitely sealed the body a couple of times first. It's better if you unstrung the doll first before sealing, so it's easier.

 

that's what I was thinking, but wanted to double check :3 I just unstrung my doll for the first time, and it was fairly challenging but I figured it out ^_^;; it seems Doll-love likes to string them fairly tight.

 

Hello all! I just went to the art store and bought the following things:

two water color pencils in lighter brown and darker brown shades
two pastels (non oil!) in pinkish and orangeypinkish
one Winsor & Newton burnt umber acrylic
one burnt sienna acrylica
two new paint brushes, one for blushing and the other in size 000

What I want to know is if the things I bought, more specifically the paints/pencils/pastels, are okay for use on my dollie before I use them and can't return! xD This is question number one.

I want to make her faceup more natural, right now it's mostly faded off. I didn't buy any sort of sealant because I'm pretty sure I'm going to fail and fail hard, but I would really like some input on what to do! She's my precious first doll she is, and I would be horrified if I did something wrong! D: So...yes.

Two separate questions, please comment on either or both!

 

Nonononono!

Sealant protects! Don't be like me! I got a stain on my doll from not sealing my doll before starting. Buy some MSC, Testors dollcote, or Zoukeimura. :cry:

As for the paint, I have no clue. o___o;

 

Well i dont want to seal it without having any of the supplies to unseal, or anything to protect my lungs and nose D:

plus i actually dont have any more money to order msc, Zou...etc, or testors special D: i got all these supplies at a local store T.T

 

You NEED to seal before you put anything on the head!! If you dont you run the risk of staining your doll permanently (NOT a good thing)
Wait till you get a mask and sealer before practising, trust me.

 

You're supposed to seal your doll before even starting. Sealing prevents staining from acrylic paints, and gives pastels a 'tooth' to hold on to. You'll want to seal the head well especially if you're planning on doing several practice faceups. With this hobby it's always smartest to do it right the first time, rather than try to fix mistakes later.

If you've read through the customizing stickies, you'll know watercolor pencils, chalk pastels and acrylic paints are all perfectly fine for doing faceups, as long as the head is properly prepped and sealed.

 

you can get testors (and model masters) at hobby lobby/Michaels

looks by the models and such.
Just get dull coat.

and just spray outside facing with the wind, so the chemical blows away from you as you spray. You'll be fine.

Without it, the pastels won't stick unless you rub it in and create a stain.
the spray coating adds an abrasive protective layer to the.

you may also want to invest in some gloss for the lips and edges of the eye.

 

The gloss is a good idea; the lips look pretty flat without it. And you need sealant, like really, really bad! Testors Dullcote is fine, and probably sold at your local craft or hobby store (I get mine from Michaels or Hobby Lobby). Less than $5 for a can. If you don't seal before you start, the acrylic paint can stain- one of my sister's doll's has a mark from this that I can't get off, even with magic eraser, alcohol, or acetone. And as long as you spray it quickly outside, you should be fine, unless you're super sensitive to the stuff.

 

Oh my...when you said "Seal" i thought you meant after i finished, i didnt know i was suppsoed to before! good thing i waited xD Well...does it matter if its testors? even though its chheaper i dont think i can get to a hobby lobby or michaels. the art store i got those other thigns from sells matte sealant, is it safe to use those?

 

Definitely read the information found in the stickies before starting anything - you'll be able to find answers to many of your questions.

Testor's Dullcote is inexpensive and is sold at Michael's (check the model car section). Other matte sprays are usually meant for fixing pastels or they tend to leave a shiny/satin finish on resin.

 

I have a naked cookie lati here. Thank you for the info! I want to do her face-up, but am scared as I've never done one. Knowing about sealing first and WHY makes me more at ease. I can always remove it if I don't like it then!

 

You need many layers of sealant. One on the blank head, and many more throughout the process, so the colors don't run into eachother while you're working. And of course a last layer when you are done.
Sealed or not, you will need cleaning supplies to remove the faceup. It doesn't really matter. It's fairly impossible to get unsealed pastel off a head.
Also, try to get a much wider range of pastels and paint. If you only have two of each, it will become very flat looking. Faces have depth and more colors than just two. It's also very limiting.
It's also handy to get more brushes. Not everything requires the same size brush.

 

Um, in answer to the "what do you use" question I use:

ZM Finishing Powder Spray UV cut
Smi Square artist pastels (cannot find any information on whether or not they contain oil and therefor afraid to use them too often)
Aleene’s Tacky Glue (for upper eyelashes)
ZM Acrylics Make Set
ZM Make Pastel/ Base Makeup Color

 

Sorry if this question has already been asked.

Anyone know where I can pick up some Liquitex flow aid? I bought almost everything i needed from the craft store, and they had a wide variety of liquitex mediums, yet they didn't have any flow aid...Or can i use a different brand of flow aid on liquitex paints? I think they have the Windsor and Newton stuff.

 

I would try DickBlick.com

 

Hello!
I'm looking into doing my first face-up.
As I have never done one before, I am at a bit of a loss as to what I need.
Can anyone tell me exactly what I need?

 

This tutorial has a very detailed list of what you need and what they're for Good luck! Other brands than what's listed there exist, obviously, but all the brands shown work just fine if you don't want to look into every single one xD

Also, if you don't want to use acrylic paints, I know watercolor pencils work for the same purpose. The difference is that acrylics have a much smoother, more professional appearance, and are harder to master but look better once you do, and watercolor pencils look a bit grainier and are much easier to get the hang of but don't look quite as nice even after a lot of practice. A lot of people suggest starting out with watercolors to get used to it and going to acrylics after a couple tries.

 

Thanks! That tutorial is great!

 

Your probably going to slap me for asking this, But what is MSC? ' - '

 

It’s an abbreviation for Mr. Super Clear by Mr. Hobby.
It’s a sealer for priming resin in order to do face ups &
for sealing the work afterwards as well. (:


- Enzyme ^ ^

 

How do you make white paint show up for eyebrows and lower lashes? What type of light colored pastels or paint is recommended?

 

Derilan85, I don’t know how helpful my advice will be, since I am not a professional face up artist. But here goes…
What I do is blush the shape of the eyebrows I want to paint with pastel in either light grey, or dark-brown,
depending on how strong I want the eyebrows to look. After I paint eyebrow-hairs with white acrylic over the pastel
base (once that has been sealed of course). I hope that helps a bit. (:

Here are a few examples of the terrible white/silver-ish brows I’ve done:
Example 1.
Example 2.
Example 3.
Example 4.


- Enzyme

 

Enzyme- Ah ha! Okay got it, you are a life saver! Thanks for the advice.

 

Derilan85, no problem! I hope you are able to paint the brows you want – good luck! ^ ^


- Enzyme

 

So many great tips. Glad I found this thread. I've gotten supplies, but I'm still putting off trying my hand at doing a face-up.

 

Thanks to everyone!!! Had a few questions about what to get myself, i have a few things already but still trying to decide what pastels to get, i know it has to be chalk or soft pastels but does the brand matter? Found a small soft pastel kit with some good colors for a paint-free face up i want to do for only $8.99 but wasn't sure if the brand matters or not. The same place i found that, had a box of plain chalk pastels that had like 42 different colors for a great price too but still wasn't sure if i should get a certain brand. If anyone can let me know if it matters on brand i would really appreciate it!!! Thanks again to everyone

 

So I just bought/ordered some faceup materials. I had tried a couple faceups a while back when I first got my boy, and then again when he got a new head, but they were such crap xD He is currently being modded though, and I would really like to give him a faceup before a doll show coming up, so I decided to use the money I would have invested in a faceup by someone else and just by the right materials. I just had a few questions/comments.

For pastels, I chose rembrandt. They currently have a 15 color half-stick palate on ebay for $9.99, shipping included. I know ill never even touch most of the colors for what little faceups I will end up doing, but none of the art stores around here sell individual pastel sticks, and the online rembrandt set was even cheaper than most other less-nice pastel sets I saw. Just thought it would be worth mentioning for anyone looking for nice, cheap pastels. Its a super nice color selection if you're into fantasy faceups as well.

I currently have two jars of sculpey gloss, but I didnt see anyone mention that they used that kind. It says it can be diluted with water, I just wanted to make sure it was ok as far as everyone knows.

I would just like to say that paintbrush sizes are confusing as hell, and it seemed like every company used a different scale xD I went to Michael's, and the smallest script liner I could find was 18/0...AND THEY DIDNT HAVE ANY >_< So I finally, by a miracle of god, found a 20/0 liner at joanns in a cheaper value pack of brushes. Now...it is a liner, but its not a script liner. Will it be able to make thin enough lashes, or should I keep searching?

Thanks!

 

You could try practicing doing lashes with the brush until you're comfortable. A lot of people practice their strokes either inside or on the top of a coated headcap, rather than on a sheet of paper.

 

Oh, thats a good idea ^ ^ thanks, ill be sure to try that. I hope they come out thin enough.

 

I've recently heard that airbrushed face-ups tend to last longer/hold up better than those done with pastels. Is this indeed true? Is the difference between how long an airbrushed face-up lasts versus how long a pastel face-up lasts pretty significant?

 

I believe how long a face up lasts depends on how lightfast the mediums you
are using are, how much you expose them to various elements (like sun light, how
often you touch/clean the face up) etc. and not necessarily the type of medium.
Most pastels (like other types of art-mediums) are made with different types of
pigments and binders depending on the brand. This will affect whether they are
lightfast or not, but it also affects acrylics which are used for airbrushed face ups.

From personal experience, I haven&#8217;t noticed that face ups I own done by professional
artists using an airbrush, have last longer than the ones done with pastels. Hope that helps. (:


- Enzyme

 

That's reassuring to know. Thanks! I haven't yet tried doing my face-ups, but I have a blank head and the materials waiting to give it a try.

 

I think I've asked 4 people that question so far and the opinions are evenly split down the middle - 2 say there's really no difference, 2 say airbrushing lasts longer.

 

Thank you for all these information, will buy saturday some of this stuff and try my first head.Wish me luck.kind regards

 

Well these are the products I use:
Mr Super Clear mat spray
Rembrant Soft (non oil) pastels
Water colour pencils
Diamond glase (or simular shine coat)
Tacky glue (for the eyelash glueing)
and various brushes, but from my experience I only use brushes are harder to control and keep on the face so I use a makeup brush (or a brush with many bristels) for the cheeks and everywhere else I mainly use cotton buds

Hope that helped

 

I was hoping someone here might have an answer to my question.

Does Mr. Super Clear Flat have an expiration date?

I have a brand new unused can of MSC Flat. I ordered it about 2 years ago but I never used it. In fact, the can is still wrapped in the clear shrink wrap. It has always been kept in my closet, which is always cool. It has not been exposed to extreme hot or cold temperatures.

Now I have a doll that I would like to body blush but don't know if I should use this can or just throw it away.

 

There's no point in throwing the can away without at least trying to see if the MSC works. Even if it doesn't, you can always wipe it off.

I've had cans sitting for over a year and they still work fine for me :] The internal environment of the can is generally preserved, especially since it's been unopened and there haven't been extreme variations in temperature or pressure.

 

lizbet -- I'm using cans from almost THREE years ago, some just opened, others half-used over time. Just give it the full 2 minutes shaking beforehand. The only adjustment I've made is with the partially used cans - I do even lighter sprays in case they've thickened up, if that's possible.

The way it looks to me, the older stuff (whether original formulation or the 2nd version in the light grey cans) is better. I've heard a LOT of complaints about some of the batches from about the last year or so.

Edit - oh, I guess I should say that I haven't had any problems at all with my older stuff, on both faceups and body blushes! I've also tried the Volks spray for over tan resin, not bad. And now I'm trying the Purity Seal stuff since I can get that fairly locally. Haven't really tested it out yet, though.

 

Thank You Laelen and Hobbywhelmed.

Laelen ~ Im going to try it today.

Hobbywhelmed ~ The can that I have is the light grey color and has the added UV protection. I will be sure to shake it the full 2 minutes.

 

Hi all!
Everyone seems to be raving happily about winsor newton brush cleaner, but I don't live in a place where its readily available. Is it just popular and can any brush cleaner work for face up removals?

 

Hey guyss, does anyone know if I can just use simple acrylics? And if so, what thinners work and don't work? My girl is in need of a severe face-up change.

 

Maybe a lame question but are regular lead pencils ok to use?

 

I haven&#8217;t heard of graphite having any negative effects on resin,
but I haven&#8217;t personally used a regular &#8220;lead&#8221; pencil on my resins.
I have used it to sketch eyes/brows and such on vinyl w/out any ill
outcome though (and vinyl stains like crazy!).

I have used charcoal pencils in the past on resin however, and graphite
is supposed to be a form of carbon as is charcoal. If you are not confident
in using a lead pencil or charcoal you can always use a watercolor pencil.
I hope that helps a bit, sorry for the rambling. (:

- Enzyme

 

Not at all a that's great help, thanks so much.

 

Are you kidding? Those look great. Thank you for leaving helpful advice here.

 

Jacobean & DaughterofEden, thank you both! I am glad to be able to help. (:


- Enzyme