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Uploading to IG and Flickr

Dec 27, 2018

    1. I could very much use some help. I'm having problems with horrible color shifts and darkening with my photos when I upload them to IG and Flickr, or pretty much anywhere now that I've done more checking. It's especially bad with the color black where any and all details in the black disappears. It just looks like one big black blob once the picture has been uploaded to a photo hosting or sharing site.

      I've been editing my pictures in Lightroom, and exporting them to JPEG in the sRGB color space before uploading. Whether I resize them before hand or don't resize I get the same result. I also tried TIFF and got the same result.

      Has anyone else had this problem and been able to fix it?
       
    2. Are you sure Flickr is changing the color space of your uploads? I don't know about Instagram but I didn't think Flickr did that. It could be that the browser is to blame. Do your image files also look different than to in Lightroom if you open then directly in a browser? Browsers often mess up color spaces.
       
    3. @mikeg They look the same whether I open them directly in a web browser or view them through their desktop websites, or through the mobile apps for each application. Even if I open them to view with Microsoft's Windows Photo Viewer or Photo Gallery, the black looks the same.
       
    4. I’ve definitely noticed a quality difference once a photo is uploaded to Flickr or Instagram. I actually use Instagram to save large picture files with slight changes to upload to my profiles here when the file is too big, because the resulting JPEG is a fraction of the size the photo was on my hard drive!

      I’ve had some luck with saving my photos as PNGs instead of JPEGs - they survive whatever compression image sites put them through a little better so the changes are negligible. I also upload photo files that are 1000px on the longest side even though I tend to display the 800px version if I link them because it seems like a larger file loses less detail. Hopefully that helps!
       
    5. Flickr displays images in sRGB color space. If you upload an image that's in ProPhoto color space Flickr makes hash of it but I've never had a bit of trouble if I converted to sRGB before uploading. Any image I upload to the web I resize to 1200 px on the long side and convert to sRGB color space.
       
    6. @Amet Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work for me.

      I've done some more playing around and it seems to have to do with how black in my pictures is being read. If I go into Lightroom and only update blacks and shadows, by bumping them up to (usually after doing +50 or higher on both slider) I start to be able to see the details in the shirt again. It's still darker when viewed on Flickr then in Lightroom though. If I bump it all the way up to +100 then there's little noticeable difference between Lightroom and Flickr. There's some added noise, but that's kind of normal.

      If I do the same thing with exposure and bump it up to anything from +1 or higher and leave all the other sliders at 0 then there's also not much noticeable difference in the darkness of the shirt from Lightroom to Flickr.

      However, if I leave all settings at 0 or have the shadow and black sliders at less then +50 or the Exposure slider at less then +1 then when exported the problem happens. The picture doesn't even have to be under exposed, just sort of on the dark side, and when I export it, it stops being able to differentiate between something that's sort of dark verses completely black. It just turns the shirt completely black.

      Could that be a problem with my video card? But then why would things show up OK in Lightroom, Photoshop and even MS Paint, but no where else.

      @TomB Yes, when I export my pictures from Lightroom I have them convert to JPEG using the sRGB color space, but I'm still having this issue.
       
    7. Are you viewing them on the same system and monitor?
      A properly calibrated ISP monitor will show deep black
      tones that cannot be displayed on a TN display. I'd suspect
      that perhaps you were seeing a difference between a
      16 bit color space and and 8 bit color space but I don't
      think JPEG supports anything but an 8 bit color space.
      I know of no reason why a jpeg saved on your local system
      should display differently from that same file uploaded to
      one of the photo hosting sites such as Flickr. Please let us
      know if you find an explanation for this puzzle.

      Have you attempted a controlled test?
      Say by saving a near black tone chart and posting it to Flickr.
      Maybe like this.... http://www.normankoren.com/Stepchart_large_bw2.jpg
       
    8. First of all I want to thank all of the members for their help, including @Melissa who tried to help me through chat on Thursday night.

      @TomB I was also beginning to suspect that it had something to do with either my graphics card settings or my very, very, very old monitor, emphasis on very. Don't laugh when I say it's 15+ years old. lol So, first I played around a bit with my graphics card settings and raised the Gamma numbers which instantly brightened all of the dark/black areas in the pictures, but also made lighter portions of my screen kind of hazy looking. But this gave me hope, especially after I went back to look at my pictures on IG through the mobile app, and noticed that while they appeared darker then in Lightroom, they weren't as dark just viewing them outside of Lightroom in say Photo Gallery and Windows Photo Viewer on my computer.

      I decided to purchase a new monitor, and have now set it up. It was the monitor. I guess just because something isn't literally broke, doesn't mean it doesn't need to be fixed. The difference between the two monitors is staggering. I was also able to find out why the pictures looked so different viewed in Lightroom verses almost everywhere else. Lightroom automatically adjusts brightness in the software based on monitor settings. So for my old monitor which was displaying darker, Lightroom would bump up the brightness in the application to compensate.

      Now that the problem has been solved, I can get back to editing. *phew*
       
      #8 Cloudedmind, Dec 29, 2018
      Last edited: Dec 29, 2018
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