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Unoa Rowan Discussion

Jan 17, 2018

    1. Unoa Quluts Rowan Metia / Prim
      1/3 Doll Height : 57cm
      Bust Size : 23cm
      Waist Size : 16.5cm
      Hip Size : 27cm
      Wig Size : 8-9in
      Eye Size : 16mm
      Feet Length : 7.5cm/2.9in

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      Rowan was sculpted by Gentaro Araki, and will likely be available in March, 2018

      Her hands, feet, and chest part are compatible with the Unoa Zero.

      The open mouthed faceplate is named Prim. The closed mouth is Metia.
       
      #1 Minda, Jan 17, 2018
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    2. Ah, they are beautiful! And Prim is like a big Ange ~:aheartbea @Minda do you know how Rowan's chest, hand, and feet measurements compare to Zero? Also, any sign of heel feet?
       
    3. Hands and feet will be the same as the Zero. The feet are already heel feet, since they are the same feet as the zero and have the same range of motion.

      The chest is compatible with the Zero chest, meaning it has the same lower width, but the boobs themselves are much smaller.
       
      #3 Minda, Jan 17, 2018
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    4. Thanks, @Minda ! So what are the main differences between Zero and Rowan (other than the faceplates)?
       
    5. Pretty much everything! She's much shorter, her hips and thighs are much wider (so much butt!), her cup size is smaller, and even her calves are bigger!

      Also she has single jointed knees instead of the double in the Zero. Still has double jointed arms though.

      She's basically an enormous 1.5.
       
    6. Ah, she sounds wonderful!:D Everything I wasn't super crazy about in Zero sounds like it's been tinkered with. I look forward to seeing more photos! Hope she'll be released in Fairy Skin eventually~
       
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    7. Yes, because she'll be made by Alchemic Labo rather than Hobby Japan, all the color options should be available for Rowan eventually.
       
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    8. She's lovely -- a return to the Unoss aesthetic in a lot of ways, with her generous hips and thighs (but not the ginormous Unoss feet, which is probably a good thing).
       
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    9. Haha...yes indeed. She was actually made to be a composite of the Unoss and the Zero, and I think Araki accomplished that perfectly. I have a Unoss too, and the main complaint was always finding cute shoes in her size. But I think the feet are TOO small on the Zero and make her a bit wobbly. I've held a Rowan, and she seems much more stable than the Zero.
       
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    10. They are beautiful, loving the mixture of Unoss and Zero in them. I hope I will get Metia in paradise skin one day! <3
       
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    11. So uh, I've started keeping my eye out for outfits that would look good on these girls...>.< @Minda do you have any information on what common sizes these girls' measurements are similar to? I'd imagine they are closer to Fairyland's Feeple60 than, say, Volks SD10. I think Zero can share clothes with Soom's Super Gem, but it sounds like Rowan is more petite up top. FYI, I personally am only interested in dresses, so pants fit isn't really an issue for me.
       
    12. Wow! I was just day dreaming about a new version of zeros or unoss the other day. Dreams do come true! :XD: I hope they'll eventually have some B-grade ones available, I wouldn't mind putting together another Unoa kit myself. I was thinking of getting an Elder brother kit, but these girls are bigger and better for me..
       
    13. Lol. I am zero help there, since I only own Unoas - hopefully when UnoAlchemy gets some samples we can take proper measurements, but I don't have any clothing from any particular brand to try. Most of my stuff comes from Taobao, and sizing is anyone's guess.
       
    14. There will be B-grade Rowans in March...

      Though I have to say, lately UnoAlchemy stuff just gets a B-grade sticker put on it just to fill orders when it's really standard grade.
       
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    15. Haha, that's fine too! It'll be awhile, so I'll have to start saving up, but I'm excited to start seeing these girls.
       
    16. Awww, Unoss was one of my first dolly-loves, and 6-7 years ago they were so hard to find and expensive. So I got a Sist, which I still have and love.
      Metia is like that Unoss I always wanted, I love those sturdy legs so much!!! Lets see how my funds are in March ^_^
       
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    17. #17 Minda, Jan 20, 2018
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    18. Ooh! What a delight seeing the new girl with your Unoss! When I saw them on Instagram, I had to do a double take. It’s like Araki is giving us a renewed Unoss and it’s wonderful! :love
       
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    19. Metia's lovely!:D Do you also have a sample Prim faceplate, @Minda ?
       
    20. I do, but I haven’t painted her yet and I have to head out for a work trip (for my real job) soon, so I won’t have a chance to get her photographed until the end of Feb. she’s gorgeous though. She’ll be a fan favorite, I think. I just connected with Metia first because she’s so like the Unoss (my fave).
       
    21. She’s beautiful

      Most bjd are from Asia but i feel not too many look Asian i like that she looks Japanese but not really realistic like iplehouse

      I think metia is very cool and interesting because she has a nice poker face but prim have that “I’m pretty i know” face which is also nice. I really like the subtle blue blushing on her face makes her more alive for me

      I want to ask why is only selling b grade or you will also sell a grade? I tried google but i still I’m not understanding. Is b grade the naked doll and a grade full set?
       
    22. Well, the true story is that Alchemic Labo has a deal with another company to sell internationally, but they don't, really. So we get around that by selling B-grades only so as not to interfere with that contract. B-grade technically means a doll that has some kind of small flaw in it. The other company won't take B-grades, so there's no conflict.

      And while it's true that B-grade parts can sometimes have small flaws (usually bits of dust in the resin or maybe a microscopic bubble), the truth is that often our B-grades are the exact same dolls sold as standard grades in Japan. Now, I won't say always because SOME dolls do have small flaws, but generally they're all pretty good.
       
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    23. @Minda thank you for your reply and for the updates

      I love it when the dealer is excited about the dolls like the hobby people it is not common

      B grades make sense now it sounds bad but in the context you said it seems it is just labeled like that so we can buy them without the contract conflicts haha

      I like her eyes better than her older sister unoss it give her a stoic look
       
      #23 GreenTeaSlug, Jan 21, 2018
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    24. I'm assuming this isn't Noppin, since they've acknowledged that international ordering has been taken over by UnoAlchemy. It is unfortunate you have to use the "B-grade" label, since it seems to cause (understandable) trepidation in new Unoa fans. Still, so much better than having to go through a complicated shopping service or worse, not being able to get them at all. The difficulty of acquiring them combined with the rise of MNF seemed to be the death knell of the Unoa's popularity for quite a few years.:( Good to see them slowly making a resurgence!
       
    25. Haha...my partner and I have been Unoa fans for so long. That's why we actually created UnoAlchemy - we knew how hard it was to get them, and I'm sure she was tired of always being my personal shopping service. My partner already was working with Alchemic Labo at shows, so we just had a meeting with them and asked how we could help them sell more internationally. Then UnoAlchemy was born! We are still fans. We don't even get a commission on dolls or anything like that. We just do it to help out Alchemic Labo.

      I think what we need to do better about a company is explaining the different lines of dolls. Some people just say they want a "unoa" and think it only means Lusis. And for us who have loved them for so long, we already know the history and information about all the different sizes and sculpts and shapes, but new people don't know all that, and are missing out on the more uncommon dolls like the Chibi or the 2.0 or the Elder sister.
       
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    26. Oh, yes, she is perfect. Prim, is it? Just when I thought my collection was full.
       
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    27. wow, my unoa-dreams come true ! Found some measurements on flickr

      Unoa Quluts Rowan Metia / Prim
      1/3 Doll Height : 57cm
      Bust Size : 23cm
      Waist Size : 16.5cm
      Hip Size : 27cm
      Wig Size : 8-9in
      Eye Size : 16mm
      Feet Length : 7.5cm/2,9in
       
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    28. These girls are exciting news! I only hope the cost won't be prohibitive. I remember my early Lusis and Sist cost a fortune.

      The measurements appear very similar to FairyLand's FeePle60 Moe body. Not exact, but close enough they might be able to share clothes.
       
    29. Oh this brings back fond memories when I had a Unoss, if the price is not too high I will consider getting one of these lovelies.
       
    30. Thanks for digging these up! I knew they'd posted them somewhere.
      I hope you don't mind if I share these at the start of the thread.


      Also, as for price, I know they will be < $1,000...so they'll be cheaper than the Zero for sure, and easier to get.
       
    31. Based on the 1/4 Unoas being in the Fairyland price range, I'm going to put my guess on $600-800 for Rowan. Will she be coming with additional faceplates?
       
    32. No news yet on final price or what she comes with. At this time, only the default and decadent faces exist for her, so there aren't any accessories apart from shoe blanks that Alchemic Labo is allowed to sell. Hobby Japan owns the things like the unicorn horns, spare hands, and elf ears, though they are compatible with her. I think Alchemic Labo might have a few sets they bought from Hobby Japan, so it's possible they'll offer what stock they have.

      Don't pin your hopes on anything under $800. Alchemic Labo has to be careful not to dramatically undercut Hobby Japan's Unoa Zero, which retails at $1000 - $1500 depending on the release. It's got nothing to do with the doll market outside of Japan, and everything to do with how things work inside Japan. Alchemic Labo doesn't really follow the hobby outside Japan, so they don't peg their prices to things like what Fairyland is doing.
       
      #32 Minda, Jan 24, 2018
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    33. Right, I wasn't suggesting AL is intending to compete with FL or other companies price-wise, just that their pricing schemes have seemed similar.
       
    34. I think they’ve hit a pretty substantial development limitation by still doing traditional sculpting (which I adore about them). They’ll never be able to compete with companies that develop their dolls with 3D sculpting like Fairyland, iplehouse, doll chateau, etc. Where Fairyland was able to just scale up the moe line feeple, Araki still does everything by hand, and he’s got a few health limitations that make long hours sculpting very difficult for him.

      I love traditional sculpting, since 3D is a bit too symmetrical and uncanny valley for me. But it definitely makes things harder. I remember the initial elder sister releases going for about $800 because they took so much work to develop.

      I think we can only get away with selling the other models for less because they’re all 10-15 years old now. But each Unoa is really more like an art doll given that it’s just Araki and a couple of people at Alchemic Labo (and nobody does it as a full time job).

      Sometimes I dream about what would be possible with a truly commercial operation like Fairyland, but on the other hand I love the personal touch of knowing that my dolls are practically coming directly from the sculptor.
       
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    35. Unoas do have something special about them that is hard to pin on one thing. There isn't and hasn't really been another super similar soft-girl/soft-boy aesthetic out there. Especially nowadays with everything so super slim and model-esque or beefed out and swole.
       
      #35 Kimchi, Jan 25, 2018
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    36. I’m going to be getting a commercial sample of a Rowan girl from Alchemic Labo this weekend so expect a lot of photos!! ✨ there’s an event in Osaka on sunday and they’ll bring her then!
       
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    37. They're gorgeous! I really like their body proportions. The bodies of the Zeroes are slightly too skinny/leggy for my tastes, so I really like how these girls look. And I can't decide which face I like better...

      I hope they'll be available in the paradise skin tone, eventually.
       
    38. These new girls are absolutely beautiful! I'm particularly keen on Metia, but I don't know that I can swing her for a while yet--I have my Twigling Elbe on layaway for now, but would be curious to see if we can buy faceplates! I've always dreamed of a Unoss, and I love my stubborn little Sist plate [despite lacking a faceup, she has a ton of personality]. Is there any chance we'll get to see blank photos soon?
       
    39. just wondering, are the knees still single jointed?
       
    40. Single knees yep! She’s basically a big 1/4 unoa :D

      What hosting setvices are reliable now? I have some pics of a Metia I painted on my tumblr but I want to post in the thread too!
       
    41. Will you be able to use the zero faceplates with the rowan head backs? Just curious to see what hybrids would work
       
    42. Yes they are
       
    43. Yes, the zero plates are compatible. They will only work on the zero and Rowan though because of the fluted neck design.
       
    44. #45 Minda, Feb 12, 2018
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    45. Oh her body is so CUTE!! Oh no...I was hoping I would be able to pass on it, but it's so close to my beloved Unoss. UGH!! When will we have a price announcement for these ladies?
       
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    46. Awesome comparison pics! I really like how you can see a little bit of the different sculpts in her, and her body really does look like a refined and updated Unoss or bigger 1.5 girl.

      I'm conflicted on whether to try for the first release or wait for the paradise skin...
       
    47. I was conflicted too, but then im like.... one of each sounds good~ xD
       
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    48. You... make a completely valid point that I had not previously considered. :lol:
       
    49. I hope many people buy a Rowan from the first batch so that AL gets good sales and the likelihood of getting them in tan may rise! *3*
       
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    50. My wallet is ready, bring on the new girls! :cheer
      Prim is perfect for me, very like my Lusis but this lovely size and shape to be friends with our Unoss, Ariadoll Narvy and VOLKS Kun.
      I'm really excited to order! Good to know about the ears, horns, shoes too, maybe I can have a chance at those accessories for her.
      The new bust is EVERYTHING!
      I bet it would look nice on a Zero girl too.
      I know there are 3rd party head backs for Zero so those plates could be hybrid onto another body, I'm wondering if it will be possible for these too. I've always threatened to knock Narvy's head off to steal her body...:aeyepop:
       
    51. @mimimontoya Unoalchemy said in Facebook that the faceplates are compatible with Zero, so I think the Buff headbacks should work! There may be some small modding needed though, as there was a small fitting issue with Latea faceplate at one point.
       
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    52. Thank you! I'm never adverse to extra faceplates, it's one of the most charming parts of loving Unoa...even if poor Narvy might not be thinking so at this point! :vein
      It will be interesting to compare the bodies! I love the full dolls intact but I'm keen on some types of hybrids in addition too.
       
    53. I absolutely love this body ! It has everything I loved about the Unoa Zero's, minus what I liked less (too tall and boobs to big for my tastes, and I tend to prefer the look of single jointed knees).
      Now I need to find a job so I can afford one OTL
       
      #54 Myra, Feb 14, 2018
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    54. ...or Fairy skin :love @Minda could this be a possibility?
       
    55. Yeah, we should have some fairy skin in the first batch of dolls.

      -Corrected to say no, unfortunately. Gonna have to wait on Fairy!
       
      #56 Minda, Feb 26, 2018
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    56. Could the excitement get any more intense? Welp, it just did! I’m so enamored of this girl, she feels like a kind of missing link in my collection somehow. Familiar but really fresh and lovely all at once. :daisy
       
    57. Rowan Lottery is up! She's 86000 JPY (about $850) plus shipping from Japan.
       
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    58. I am rather relieved that her price is so far out of my budget for now. My small Unoa Sist has taken a larger place in my story and may need a reshelling [and Metia would be perfect, particularly with the decadent plate!!], but fortunately for me, this can't happen for a while yet.

      Best of luck to anyone entering the preorder!! Any idea if/when we may have an order for faceplates and such?
       
    59. Probably not for quite a while, unfortunately. Whether they cast many Rowans or not will depend on how sales do, so it's all up in the air right now.
       
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