Tan DoT are not worth their price

I am tired of the BS of these companies.
Why do they have to do cheap work? Like making the doll and painting it on top to make it tan, why can they add the color to the mix and avoid all of these problems.
What is going to happen 5 years from now to the people than own a Tan el or Tan DOT…because sooner or later I don’t care how much Mr super clean you spray to
the doll, the makeup will fade. (I have dolls that proof that)
To make a bigger profit that is why.

They probably paid Chesca a lot less than a professional makeup artist.
Honestly I don't think any of these dolls cost that much to make, imagine production cost around $100 per doll and then they want to sell the doll for $700 and it has all of these problems.
I know a lot of people are going to jump on me now to defend these companies, but please be objective these people are making huge profits and the quality is not always the best.

I am very tired of these situations. Every company has issues. The quality of the doll and resin, the amount of dolls that they produce, their customer service (some think they are God), the time that takes for you to receive the doll and they don’t like to reply to e-mails.

Because of the amount of dolls that I got I deal with almost every doll company and none of them are perfect some better than others. The only I haven't had any problems so far is Latidoll.

I got a dollmore Youth Dollmore Eve - White Butterfly - LE15 , she was suppose to come with the hands that are on the picture with the nails that match the color of her lips, Instead she had other hands on her, the extra hands were on the box; it took me a while to find then because they were tape underneath the bubble wrap, but they don't fit into the joint.
The doll had a complete circle joint and the painted hands are meant to be for half joint so the extra joints were in the box (you couldn’t even see then) but in order to put the half joints you have to take the entire doll apart and assembled the doll with the new joints so she can have the hands that she was suppose to come with.
Why do you have to go through that?
She should it come with those hands in the first place.

Volks is another one…their customer service is suck and their ego…
Last year I got a doll from them with a broken neck, it took me over a week to get a replay from them, the first replied was an automatic response, the second one was somebody telling me that it was going to tell their manager about the doll. I e-mail them pictures and everything and at the end they made me shipped the doll back to them paid for EMS shipping plus insurance and they refused to refund me the money.

I guess at the end it’s our fault. (The customers) All of us pay the price that these companies want for their dolls regardless of high crazy or high they are.

Geri

 

*applauds pony_gery* Wonderfully put!

 

*joins in the applaud* i agree whole heartedly with what you wrote Pony_gery

 

WHY can't they do better at Quality Control AND Customer Service.

If they see the problem before it's shipped out around the world, WHY not do something about it, instead of letting it slide?

It's not like we're spending $20 on something that's easily replaceable.

Some of these companies, who started out doing things pretty well... have started messing up.

I've heard about A LOT of sour deals (for example, just to name a few):
*They mix orders (send you someone elses doll)
*Send you dolls with different anatomies (a friend has a Jade... only true one in existance... that the company sent out a girl... not a boy)
*Different skin tones (white head, pink body)
*Two left feet (through dollmore... I kid you not)
*Different Resin Batch colors (as in the case of the Tanned Els).
*Or in one case with my friend who ordered a 60 Narae and received the smaller Narae in it's place
((ordered from a company I previously mentioned - not to be confused with dollyholic or dollfair.com))

Why can't they change their policies?
If THEY messed up the order, WHY do WE have to pay for shipping back to them?


~~~ All we're trying to say is that if everyone keeps on ignoring the problem (and jumping down people's throats who post about it), it's only going to get worse. I know that a lot of you worship and revere these companies, and we're NOT trying to put them down. But they Aren't gods. They have enormous flaws; and we think its about time that people started hearing out our problems with them. ~~~

((And "Woot!" Gery. You're right on!))

 

as far as defending the company goes, I can see why a lot of people want to. Even I want to, although here it is obvious they are at fault, at least with the makeup (but I'm sure that everyone agrees on that point).

The title of this post makes a very broad, and I have to say innacurate statement. So far this is the only doll sent out that people were not happy with. Yes, one is too many, but that's another argument altogether.

On THIS topic, about tanned DOTs being priced too high due to the flaws they have, I do not believe this is true. Many people were more than satisfied with their dolls.

Many things were listed that were not the fault of the company. While I agree they could have made some things clearer I do think that the buyer has some responsibility to research what they are purchasing. Seams are always left on tan dolls (I don't know of a single tanned doll that is okay to sand and DOTs are not the first tans in existance). Customs charges and wait times were not good things to add to that email either as all of these things cannot constitute fault with the doll or company. DoDs wait time is infamous.

Anyway, I'm curious to see how DOD will respond when another letter is sent.

 

I wasn't only naming DoD. I was speaking about other very popular ABJD companies who have problems that people like to cover up.

 

Whoa....I was shocked at the lips in your pic!! I would be hoppin' mad if I were you. Really steamed! I hope they reconsider and do something to make your doll right. I was considering a Shall when they become available again, but, if they treat customers that way and allow such schlocky work to get past them, I won't touch 'em.

Best of luck to you and I do hope they make it right!

Penny

 

I can't comment on the Tan DOTs, or DOD in general, because I don't own any. But about the price...I don't know exactly how much materials cost, but the impression I have is that resin isn't cheap and with tan dolls, companies end up throwing numerous ones away because the color didn't set right. There is also the *time* it takes to make one. There's a lot of work that goes into them by real live human beings and that's also going to affect prices.

I'm sorry that you've had problems with so many dolls. I only own three thus far (all from different companies) and I've never had any issues. One thing to remember is that what might drive one person nuts, might not seem like a big deal to some one else. Also, things made primarily by people rather than automated manufacturing processes tend to have more small flaws--you can see the hand of the artist. Obviously if something comes broken or damaged, that's a whole nother story.

It sucks to be disappointed with something that you paid a lot of money for, and I'm not saying that companies should never be critisized or that they don't make mistakes. These companies are run by humans and no matter how well meaning people are, they screw up sometimes. But these aren't all huge scandles, and many issues may only happen to a few people out of a lot of customers.

 

aaah... I dunno... T__T; I remember back then... DoD used to be very nice and replies e-mails within 24 hours...

and they sanded their dolls to perfection and coat it too...

I guess when a certain company gets more customers they become... less considerate?

TT___TT now I'm afriad to get a twingkey...

must find... others-not-well-known-companies... like... latidoll.... or Luts... with good people!

 

I don't mean any offense by this, but the sheer number of dolls that you own dictate that, statistically speaking, you'll have experienced more problems than any of us.

Out of all your dolls, how many times have you had a problem with a doll, sufficient that you had to contact a manufacturer? I am curious; I believe you're the only member on the board probably to deal with so many companies in such a great number. :smile:

Please let's keep the topic focused on positive, constructive things: statement of fact, and what one might do in response. Complaining and venting is one thing, but after a certain point, it becomes bashing, which isn't helpful to anyone. It's good to discuss a problem with a company because then people are aware of the issue, what the customer tried to do, what the company will do, etc.

It's my strong belief that if you have a problem with the way you received a product, it's good to post about the problem. With this thread, many people have discussed their experiences with DoD as well as tanned Shall or tanned dolls in general. Constructive.

After that point, though, it's up to the customer to try and resolve things with the company. It's also my strong belief that if you want a company to do something for you, regardless of whether you feel it's "your right" or "their responsibility," when approaching that company it's best to be very polite, and very clear about setting your expectations. It's also advisable to read up on their return or exchange policy before approaching them with "demands."

 

Pfeh. I'd redo her faceup for free for you.

 

I think the least they could do is refund you the going price of their faceups, ($45), because that face up is not professional. The artist may be able to do clothes better than Versace, but it doesn't mean she can paint!
It's sad that the tanned dolls come with such defects. While I understand that may not be their fault, they atleast have the obligation of informing the customer of what exactly they are buying. Especially since it is quite a chunk of change!

I have a normal Camine coming, I hope that artist doesn't do his faceup!

 

Um, I just had this idea. Is there anywhere that we could actually sit and post reviews from purchasing? I mean there's no reason a person can't leave a bad review, unfortunately it insights a sort of heated argument most times. Perhaps companies should have a 'good experience' 'bad experience' thread that we just wear out with stories and not so much comment on them, but just add our experiences? That way new people can go and read the pros and cons to a new doll or company in a bit more of an organized manner? *shrug* Just a thought.

 

I second that! *points up* A review thread for the COMPANIES would let people know what to expect.

 

We have a Marketplace Feedback forum, though it was established for other members and not specifically for companies. It's been the practice thus far to post a review for a doll specific to that doll, rather than the company, which would go in the forum based on that doll's size.

 

Actually, it's been mentioned in this thread by a few people that Chesca's faceup work is normally much, much better than this. We have no reason to think they're are lying. Why would they?

But even the best faceup artist in the world will have sloppy work if they're really rushed.

 

Seriously. I can do better than that, and I'm not all that great myself. I don't charge nearly as much, either.

 

Actually, I'm not sure how useful this would be...?

Most companies have ups and downs as they grow and change.

 

I agree with you Janne... the happy people who got what they want always seem to be quiet and content.

For the record, I was concerned when I read on this thread someone ordered a 60 cm Narin doll and got a 43 cm one instead. This didn't happen in any of my orders, so want to clear that up.

I do agree that there is a long way to go for companies to provide better customer service.

Catrina

 

I own a tan doll (not a DOD, but a AR NT Ren) and mine doesn't have marks or lines like that. Saying to expect marks like that on a tan doll is excusing the shoddiness of the work. Yes, tan dolls are expensive for the company to make. But sending out dolls with marks like that is, well, if I worked for them I'd be EMBARASSED. It's like they're saying "We can't do any better than this", or more likely, "We don't care about the quality. Give us your money, NOW!"

 

I'm not going to bash any particular company, but it is absolutely ridiculous to ask the customer to pay the shipping fees when they get a doll that's broken or imperfect, if they have to send it back to be fixed/replaced. I would disrespect any company that does this. I've heard of several that do it, though, unfortunately.

 

I'm just going to crawl in here and offer my condolences upon Shall's lips and also to respectfully point out to people who are jumping on Kirane's thread title "Tanned DOT are not worth their price"--it's her opinion that she's stated. Please do not bash somebody for stating an opinion. There's probably not enough room to write, "Tanned DOT problems: terrible faceup, unsanded seams, not enough info" or something like that.

People can go ahead, click, and read the thread and judge for themselves whether they think Tanned DOT are worth their price.

 

I think I have to explain myself here a bit better. I didn't mean to attack evolving_me for what you said, only that you were the latest person to have said something that I wanted to comment on. Neither did I say that all the marks (mold marks) on this DOT were to be expected, just the seams, which though laylei is lucky enough not to have on her tan doll, most people still have on theirs. And also could be seen on the DOT photos.

also, I'm not sure if shizalent was reffering to me but I hope noone thought I was "bashing" her. That certainly wasn't my intent. My intent was only to point out WHY some people feel like defending the company to a degree rather than siding fully with her, even though she is the one with the problem. When someones opinion is stated, and it is generalised, of course there are people who will want to dissagree. Of course people can click and judge, and that's what they're doing. Also there is certainly enough room to write a different title. I'm not saying she should bother (especially now when the thread's gone on so long) or that she ever HAD to. It's up to her of course.

 

I agree with pony_gery and envolving_me. There're a lot of problems with the companies and they'll never get better if we don't complaim and make them change.
People on this hobby are too understanding, IMHO. =|

 

I hadn't been thinking about this before, but about the mold marks on the ankles and such? To go into full production with a problem like that known about is rushed. And it's already been proven by the fact that volks does it that it's possible to paint over such things if they need to be there.

Also the excuse of them being new to tan dolls is rubbish. ALL the companies have been new to tan dolls. They each have come up with their own ways of doing it and you don't see that problem in any of the others. The fact that DoD stated the auction price for one of the dolls is rather condecending and rude.

That's like if someone commissioned an expensive peice of jewlery. The item arrived with gems falling out of it and the producers response was "Well... My work sells for millions on auction. So you have no right to complain."

It's egotistical and rushed. As for the comment about the style of the makeup? These dolls are supposed to be for the individual to enjoy. It's not an upgrade to change something to something else that's more popular. It's changing it without the customers will. And it's not like it's for a gift, it's something that the customer paid a lot of money for.

 

I don't think there is anything unreasonable about your esthetics complaints. What really would have my feathers ruffled is that they had what they discribed as a seamstress doing custom faceups! Riddiculous! That's very unprofessional. She probably is a fantastic dress maker, but that doesn't mean she can paint. If you paid for a custom faceup, they should have a faceup artist doing it. That doll should never have left the workshop. Certainly they could have checked her work. I mean, put that head up next to any other Shall and it would be obvious that the scary stitch lips and poor eye makeup is far below standards.

I haven't read this whole thread, but I know I will never own a tanned doll because of the inherent problems with the resin. Essentially you pay more for what will certainly be a flawed doll. They look so good in the advertisment pictures, but the dolls they photograph are the finest results out of 50 or more tries. This isn't so true on DoD, but look at other sites that sell tan dolls. They tend to be dressed to show less skin (ie-less visible imperfections). Darker dolls have a lot more pigment in them than lighter dolls. They can't be sanded because the pigment settles in a layer-like effect in the resin. Sanding exposes these layers.The pigment also makes it more difficult to get rid of air bubbles in the vacuum chamber where the resin is poured. If they used more pressure in the vacuum chamber, the pigment would not set up as evenly. For each "acceptable" doll there are ten or more extremely flawed dolls they have to throw away, so the process cost much more. Not worth my money, and apparently not worth DoD's money anymore, since they won't be making tanning dolls again. I'll give them that; at least they realize it's not up to their standards and won't continue selling them.

I really hope you work something out with them regarding the faceup. It's truly awful. They should either pay for it to be fixed by an artist here, or redo it for free, with no shipping charges. If you really can't stand the air bubbles and seams, you should sell her. There are plenty of buyers out there who would be glad to take her off your hands. Good luck, either way.

 

Hi Catrina,

***I can assure anyone else who might have read my two previous posts, that it wasn't through dollfair.com or through Dollyholic, that the Narae in question was ordered from***

Hi Catrina,

I should have been a little more specific when I mentioned who it wasn't ordered from.
I've only heard good things about the way you handle your orders.
And if I somehow managed to make you sound less reputable for even a second, then I sincerely apologize.
I only meant to point out mistakes that other companies have made, and I've edited my previous post to reflect that.

Yours Truly,

~Angie

 

Actually, I think those complaints had to do with her earlier title. XD She's since changed it.





I think, at this point, DoD is not going to do anything. The reply gave enough evidence to assure us all that there really is nothing they can/will do. While a compromise would be nice, it's just not going to happen. :\

I really hope your friend will love her Shall regardelss, and that the new faceup (I'm assuming she's getting a new one?) will look as beautiful as the pictures on the DoD site. :3

 

Yeah, I gathered that the original title had "scandal" in it or something, but even after she changed it there have been posts about the "not being worth their price" part. XP

Oh, and haiiroko, I didn't mean to imply you specifically were bashing her, but there were some other posts that definitely had aggressive statements in them. And as I said, it is her opinion she posted--yes it's a statement, but ultimately it's also her opinion.

 

Thanks Angie. I'm far from perfect but I do try to bend over backwards to make everyone's ordering experience smooth and fun.

I really think it would be good if more companies worked with experienced foreign reps. There would be someone to talk to in your own language, be a pipeline of new info, and *advocate* for you buyers if there is something wrong.

Maybe with the situation getting busy for them, they need to consider this?
Or, like Luts and some of the others, get a "Doogi" type who provides customer service over there and genuinely understands the language enough to do it well. I've bought plenty of things from Luts in the past, and they have been really responsive and great service every time.
Catrina

 

Actually, that was a mistake on kirane's part. Dora did not pay extra for a custom faceup. That doesn't change the fact that the actual faceup is not what was advertised on the page, but kirane did correct that misconception on an earlier page in this thread.

And as krambear and others have said, Chesca is actually a good faceup artist in addition to being an excellent clothes designer. I haven't seen her work so like you, I also assumed her ability was not up to par based upon the photos in the first post, but I see no reason to doubt their word.

 

I like how that was edited... I agree. She looks MUCH better now. Also I've heard that faceups are nessecerily all that well sealed from several companies so at least that's not that bad. And in this case worked to your advantage so you could get someone to fix the problem even if the company wasn't willing.

 

I think the lips look much more natural like that. I'm glad to see the faceup could be salvaged. (And I've heard from other owners of DoDs that the faceups don't tend to be well-fixed as well.)

 

not to kick up hornets or anything...

but i'm curious - were these problems faced by any of the people who bought the tanned yen doll DOD released awhile back?

here he is if any one is curious....

 

I'm surprised at your Shall's makeup (0_0)! usually Chesca is really good. All the pictures I saw on YJ auction for the tan limited Shall with clothes had nice makeup, but this one looks really different...

Maybe the faceup artist for the tan editions WITHOUT clothes is not Chesca?

I hope things work out for your friend (^ - ^)

 

The tan Shall that sold on Y!J was not the limited clothed tan Shall. The limited clothed tan DOTs never went on sale. The tan Shall that sold on Y!J was a regular tan Shall with a leather outfit thrown in. If you looked closely, you could see that it wasn't the same outfit.

 

Man...I hadn't known about these issues with tan dolls. o.o Thanks for posting this thread - although I've only skimmed over it since it's so lengthy, I'm glad I know now about what I'd be getting into if I bought a tan doll.

 

Wow....DoA has alot of issues. Just let the girl speak her mind. If I paid over 700 dollars for a doll, I'd want it to be quality. <----Opnion, see, yeah, opnion. Look it up people

 

All of the dolls pictured in Chesca's auctions are her work. And the tan DOTs pictured on the site were painted by her as well.

 

Thank you for clarifying, krambear.

 

No one is stopping her from speaking her mind. I think this thread has stayed positive, on the whole, and a lot of people have been offering their support.

My personal opinion with the tan DOTs is when they saw the problems with the finished product they should have taken it back to prototype; nevertheless, there are plenty of people who love the tanned dolls for what they are, mold marks notwithstanding.

 

There's one for sale in the marketplace, here, with a few nice pictures. I can't see any seams or marks, but it may just be the photo angle...

 

Wow.. Well I really do agree with Pony_gery's statement, I think part of the reason things like this happen with companies is because -WE- let them. I've heard before, in reference to new companies starting out or lesser known companies, that it is THEIR responsibility to make us buy their products.
I would assume that that also means it is their responsiblity to make sure we are satisfied with said product.

People in this hobby really do tend to be understanding, and while sometimes that is a good thing, in cases such as this it is bad. I do not own any dolls, but even just being a member here I have never seen any tan doll except the DoT's with these 'gating marks' and while many people have said that these are a necesary evil, look at Volks sunlight dolls, look at Luts tan dolls, look at ANY tan doll except the DoTs. They said, that they sent the dolls off to another place to be manufactured. I am not sure if this is the reason why they were under par, but I would think it had something to do with it because, even a skilled production line, as they claim this place was/is, will not do an outstanding job the first time they produce something, especially something as complicated as a doll.

So yes, it may be difficult to make tan dolls, and maybe more expensive too, but, ask Donn or fancyboots, I am sure the actual cost of materials is nowhere near $500, which is about as low as finished 60cm dolls get, and although the work is done mostly by hand, for that kind of money you would expect to get something more than this.
At least, I would.

 

I can see his seamlines in the photo by the window but seams never really distracted me before. Nevertheless I also think she has a right to complain to DOD, but this doesn't mean all their dolls will turn out like this. This only shows that DOD is not perfect, no company ever is.

 

Here is the re-done lips of Maelys (Dorachan Tanned Shall)

BEFORE




AFTER




And I just want to say the the tanned color is really beautifull, not too light, but not too dark.

 

Double post sorry ^^;

 

That looks so much better!! YAY!!

 

Much better looking ^^

Also, I wanted to say, DoD tanned dolls did not have to have all of the problems that they have. Angel Region's tanned Kais have parting lines, but not the other light spots (aside from really odd ones on the end of their heels--as if they were dipped like Achillies!) although they do have seams. Volks tanned dolls don't have seams at all, and no light spots (I can say this confidently after seeing one IRL yesteday! He's so beautiful) so it's possible... I can't speak for the tanned hounds or Els, but I think they both have seams. Leekeworld tanned dolls have seams, too.

If you're really, really concerned about them the best advice I have is to play with them a lot--the seams wear down over time and with use.

I think the problem with the lighter spots in the mold is that it would've taken making a new mold (I assume they used the same mold as they did for normal ones and just changed the resin) and DoD wasn't willing to put the money into that. From the complaints I've heard and the pictures I've seen, looks like it would've been worth their while (if only for the sake of their reputation) to try something like that.

Just my two cents ^^; Sorry your doll wasn't what you wanted/expected; I had the same disappointments with my DoD and that's why I don't have him anymore.

 

Wow! the new lips are great..^_^ but the sad part is, it had to be fixed. Oh well, not that i want to say anything new,i do agree with you guys about the 1st face-up.. I hope this wont happen to any future DoD dolls..(please spare my standard DOT Shall.. *hides*)

 

Out of curiosity, does anyone know exactly HOW the tan dolls are made?
If they are poured with a different colored resin, you would think that there wouldn't be any discoloration issues. If they were poured with the original color and then just painted, you would think that someone could just sand the seams BEFORE the painting. I don't understand why the color is not uniform throughout all the resin.... The regular colored ones do not have this problem, why would the tanned?

Just a thought: The actual MATERIALS for making the dolls may not cost all that much but any type of epoxy/resin is dangerous to work with. You have to wear a respirator plus have eye and skin protection, with respirator filter changes daily. (a decent respirator and filters are expensive)

The stuff is extremely caustic, produces large ammounts of heat and takes a long time to cure. Resins are usually a two part mixture which causes a pretty nasty chemical reaction when mixed. Your doll is the product of that chemical reaction. That material does not exist without that reaction.

Now I don't know exactly what TYPE of resin they use but every resin I've ever worked with has always had about 50 warnings on it. This is also why they tell you never to breathe in the dust from sanding your dolls. Plus they don't know how a part came out until they remove it from the mold, probaly days after the pouring to allow curing time. But you wouldn't be expected to know any of this unless you have worked with larger ammounts of epoxy/resin. The little tubes of stuff you get at Home Depot that you mix together are nuthin'.

We also don't know what type of molds are used in the first place. Considering the large heat output of these chemicals when mixed, you may have to have a special mold that can withstand the heat without expanding and then contracting on the part once it is cooled, making it impossible to remove.

And I'm sure the people who manufacture the parts are not the same as the people at DoD who put those parts together. They may have gotten a crappy manufacture this time around, but it is thier responsibility to get on thier supplier's ass about quality control. We also don't know if they pre-purchase the resin prior to the pour. If they only have a fixed ammount to work with, they will be more reluctant to discard less-than-perfect parts.

If these companies would tell us a bit more about the process, (which they like to covet as thier "trade secrets"), I think most would be much more understanding about WHAT goes into making a doll and WHY they cost so much. Making resin isn't rocket science, but if you don't know how it's done then that can be confusing to the end cosumer.

If you look at any other resin models of comparable size, (not dolls), the cost comes out about the same -expensive!

In the end, DoD is probaly losing a lot of money on the 60cm dolls because it has not perfected the process yet. It will take them many restocks before they make that back. They also pay for the development of the original casts, the making of the molds, the shipping of the parts from wherever they are made to wherever they are essembled, the employees who put the dolls together, the manufacture of the special boxes and pillows that the doll comes in addition to the resin it's self... Kinda like pharmacutical companies. It costs so much to develop the drugs that they need to initially chagre rediculous prices to make up for that cost.

Ok, that turned out to be WAY longer than expected!
This is only my speculation. I do not know exactly how these dolls are made. I am not defending DoD or any other maker, nor am I bashing them.

But a little insight never hurt anyone :smile:

 

Her price is poorly reflected in her faceup. Thats all I can say really. The lips are definatley amateur, and the eye makeup isnt too fabulous either.
I must say though, I have a LUTS Lishie, and her headcap doesnt quite line up with her head, so I think this is maybe more normal than the rest of the Shall's flaws?

 

I got to see two DOTs yesterday, a normal Lahoo and a tanned Camine, and they were both gorgeous!! I did get to see the infamous 'gate marks' on the ankles -- it just looked like a spot where the resin was slightly differently-textured to me, nothing very obvious. And his face-up was gorgeous!!

I think that Dora got a doll that shouldn't have made it past quality control, but in general DODs, in my experience, have been really nice dolls

-- A

 

I second this. Ashbet and I saw the same dollies at the MD meetup yesterday, they were wonderful =3 The parting line was not noticable (and didn't detract from the doll) and the gate marks were small and barely visible. The faceup was much better than the tan Shall in question.

I'm sorry that the faceup is less than desireable .____.; I hope you guys get something worked out, that had to be a big dissapointment ;___; She looks much better now =3

 

To my knowledge it is mixed in with the resin. The problem is in how the pigment settles. It's not a different color underneath so much as a different shade. It's fairly hard to get the pigment to settle evenly on the outside, let alone trying to figure out how to get it to be the same all the way through. It's one of the reasons why Resin is a pain. It's hard to get it entierly uniform. There's airbubbles and pigment settling and you have to make sure the resin components are mixed perfectly to begin with, the temperatures have to be right, it can't be too humid. Lots of annoying little variables.

So, that's why it's not uniform all the way through. The regular ones are close enough to the more or less natural shade of the resin(I think). Also certain dyes work differently and so it's easier or harder to make it appear even.


I don't know about Volks, but that's how the other companies seem to do it. To my knowledge volks does a combination, where the resin is different but they also sand then coat the seams so that it looks even. Though I could be wrong, they might spray the whole thing.... Though I doubt it. *Shrugs* I think I'll ask next time I'm at the store.

 

She is beautiful now!! Really good!!! I really like her ^^ Congrats!

 

Ahh.. Makes a bit more sence to me now... Thank you!
That was very helpful :-)

 

No problem. *Smiles*:smile:

 

I think something like only 1 in 5 dolls are ever able to be sold because color in the resin settles differently. So like you can have an arm one color and the body another color and the head another, etc. This is partly because the smaller parts like hands & feet reach a different temperature than say the torso or head due to the size. Greater surface area and all that. So yeah like it was mentioned, lots of teensy lil factors. Ain't that a pain?

I have a Tan El and he does have seems, but they aren't too terribly noticeable. There is a bit of excess on one of hands that bugs me, but oh well that is what long sleeves are for. >_>

 

::Alastair gives Ashbet and Muffin a thumbs up::

Al's a ho. He's glad you all think he's pretty. Once again, i don't find the gate marks or seams that bad, but I can see how it can take you by surprise. When Al arrived we noticed the marks, but just disregarded it as it would be part of the mold removal process.