Rule Update Sold/In-Transit Lists No Longer Allowed! Also - remember no "market value" threads!

Thanks for this, mods. It will really help cut down on false hits when searching the marketplace.

 

Is there any way to mark Sold items in a thread which is permissible? I know there have been times when I've purchased something and felt it was different from how I remembered its description, and then went back to the original sales thread to read the seller's description. If I understand correctly, under the new rule, the seller would have to edit the sold items from their thread immediately, meaning there'd be no information for the buyer to cross-reference. (Sorry if I've misunderstood!)

I understand that long lists of sold items are bothersome, though, so thank you for the rule change!

 

on the opposite! as soon as the thread is marked as sold, the seller can no longer edit the information. the "dead" thread will be up for at least 6 months and you will be able to go back and check at the infos to make sure everything is in order.
it will only be hidden when you search in the MP because it is pretty annoying to have to dig through the finished thread to find one that is actually for sale. dead thread are moved into the MP graveyard but can be seen on the seller's page

 

I think you're confusing sold dolls with sold items. This is how it works in the Dolls Marketplace, but not for the various items (it would do no good to lock a thread with multiple items after one item is sold, etc.).

 

oh, my bad for misunderstanding the question

 

We tried allowing something like this with the "in transit" option that was previously allowed, but unfortunately we found that sellers were not removing "in transit" items from their threads (either because the buyer never confirmed the item's arrival, or because the seller just didn't get around to taking them down). As a result, "in transit" lists were staying up indefinitely, just like the sold lists did.

If you're concerned about this, I suggest taking a screenshot of the item's description when you purchase it. That way you'll still have the information to refer back to.

 

If cross-reference is what you need, I suggest you take a screen shot or save the picture(s) of the item on your hard-drive before you PM the seller to purchase. That way you have it just in case.

 

This is an excellent suggestion. Thanks for the help!

 

If a doll is sold, what do we put? I want to know for future reference when I sale my dolls.

 

This information has been in the Marketplace Rules for a long time now. Please re-familiarize yourself with the forum rules and guidelines if you're not certain.

We ask that you ONLY USE the prefixes in the Dolls Marketplace to indicate your doll is no longer available.

 

Yay! We who are always on a search for one thing or another are delighted!

May I add that it would be nice when people remove sold items from their threads that they also take a moment to use Go Advanced and edit the thread header? It's a pain to view a header that lists multiple eye sizes or multiple manufacturers of things that were initially there, but when you check the thread, there's only one item left, or just one size or one manufacturer. That also adds to false results and longer searches.

 

Thank you for re-iterating this. I see all sorts of variations on this (including the old "sold-please keep" edit) in the Dolls MP, making it pretty clear that the person isn't up on the current rules....

Oh and I so agree with Hobby. Thank you thank you thank you.

 

I would like to suggest to those sellers who need to keep track of what has been sold and what is in transit - a simple spreadsheet, word document, or note file of some sort is a really good way to keep track of information like this, and a lot easier to edit and control than a live thread!

Thank you mods, for this obvious/needed rule change.

 

What if the screenshot never works? Mine never has. Didn't when it was brand new either. I've tried and tried to screenshot stuff. Isn't it just hitting the printscreen button? The old comp worked that way. (No, never had the manual or anything...think OfficeDepot kept it.)

 

It's actually alt+printscreen which will get you a screenshot. Hope that helps. ^^

 

I guess mine's just broken then. I dunno what else to try. I use to be able to screenshot something, and open it in paint but that doesn't work.

 

Many photo-editing programs also have a capture function that can be activated. You of course, whether buyer or seller, can also save the whole page as a HTML file, and view it and edit it locally afterwards. Takes up more space that way, but is good for multiple items.

Or you can select and copy text and relevant pix into a Word file and save that.

 

I have another suggestion for screenshots if you can't seem to get your screenshot key to work (mine is the PrtSc/SysRq button near the Backspace key and I don't have to use Alt when I press it): If you have some kind of a camera, just take a photo of your computer screen. Unless you have an old glass monitor it should work fine.

(Edit: Like Kiyakotari said on the next page, when I use the PrtSc button, I have to paste the image into Paint and then save it. The PrtSc button just takes a screenshot of the page, but doesn't save it anywhere automatically.)

I'm also thrilled to read of this change! I know I don't have to tell most people here how frustrating it is to be searching for something specific and think I found it, only to discover it's in a list of items that were already sold!

I only have one question: does this rule apply to the thread title as well? I've encountered situations where I've gone to a thread because the item I want is in the title, only to find that it's not in the thread at all or is listed as sold. That sounds like something that's against the rules (even just for the fact that it's basically lying about what's for sale). Should people be reporting threads like this?

 

Kelaria - thank you! We feel strongly that this is a positive change too Thread titles should be kept up-to-date and reflect current sales rather than past and sold items. Please do report misleading thread titles, they do create keyword spam too.

 

With the screenshot thing...I know that with my computer, it doesn't just create an image for me when I use alt + printscreen (or in my case, fn + printscreen, since I'm on a laptop). Instead, it copies whatever is displayed on my screen to the computer's clipboard. I then have to open up a photo editing program and paste the clipboard into a blank image that is the same size as my computer's screen resolution. Try doing that if you're having trouble getting a screenshot to work.

 

And if you happen to be using Windows 7 -- it comes with a tool called "snip" which will create a screen shot of any or all of your screen. Handy little doo-dad, it is.

 

Alt+PrtScn captures only the single application (window) that you're currently in. For example, if you have a browser and a small IM window open, & your mouse is currently active in the IM, that's all PrtScn will capture. If you use the PrtScn by itself, it will capture the whole screen, with everything that's visible on it.

But, yes, after you capture it, you still have to paste it into a graphics program. MS Paint works, Paint.Net works, PhotoShop also works... anything that'll accept a paste-in from your Clipboard.

If you don't have Win7 with its marvelous Snipping Tool, and you still can't get PrtScn to work = Snagit is a very nice screencapping program.

 

I think only Macs auto save the screenshot to the desktop (which is something like Command (squiggly box)-shift-4 and draw a box). Most PC's auto function is to save to the clipboard in which you have to paste it into an image program (and paint works fine in this case).
Being pessimistic, I like the idea of removing keyword spam, but if there was a debate over description/actual between a seller and buyer then either saving the HTML or the screen shot image are both in the end are arguably manipulable. I'm guessing in the end we're only really going to worry about the doll threads and hence why they have a graveyard. Just a possibility, but I'm going to opt for lowering the keyword spam.

I'd suggest/hope people who started their thread with, eg "many wigs for sale", might change it to a better description as they sell off some or have a "featured item" in their title. It might make it easier to find their thread again. I don't shop a lot on the marketplace, but I do hate seeing something neat and then not being able to find the thread again 20 minutes later. I remember titles better than in-post descriptions.

 

"Please remember that asking other members for their opinions on the current market value of dolls/doll parts/items/accessories is not permitted."

You make it sound as if only sellers would be asking. Doesn't this also make it difficult for people who are looking to BUY, especially newcomers to the hobby who might not know where to look? Or is there a forum place for that? It's been a while since I've been on DOA.

 

I'm not certain I understand your question - but any discussion regarding business outside of the marketplaces - buying/selling/trading - is against the rules. It is not allowable to ask about possible sales. Members must have Marketplace access and can then use the Marketplaces to find items or to list a WTB thread. Hope that helps answer!

 

You might also try doing a basic search of the Marketplace Graveyard to see the prices of recently-sold items. We keep items in the Graveyard for six months, so chances are it's a good way to price-check a doll or part.

 

Yes, the Graveyard is a treasure of a resource to gauge what's selling and what's not and/or how the prices are ranging. Aside from the occasional "Oh no! A _____ was for sale and I missed it!" moment.

Of course, that doesn't include the threads that were purged of all text and pictures prior to putting the Finished tag on--

 

Which is against the rules of the Dolls Marketplace, so should not be happening. If you do see any threads like this in the active Marketplace, please report them