Hiya guys...... Sooo I'm having hand casting issues - I'm onto my third set of hand molds and so far they have all ended in grief - first set was a one-piece glove mold using a super soft silicone and injecting the resin - no good - I kept getting bubbles in the fingers..... Second set was a two part mold using a mid-firm silicone with the seam situated along the edges of the hands and between the fingers - again bubble issues in one finger and the resin flash was a b*tch to clean off nicely... The third set of molds are squish molds using a firm silicone with the tips of the fingers upper most and no bubbles but cutting and sanding the sprues off the palm and finger tips seems to be far too much effort.... Can you share the materals you are using to make your hand molds and how you are situating the hand in the mold itself... plus any secrets to your preparation that you would care to share? The hands I am casting are 1/4 scale and quite detailed with all fingers separated - there are small fingernails but nothing protruding too far beyond the tips of the fingers... Any help would be greatfully appreciated!! Mods - if this is in the wrong place LMK....
Please forgive me, but I do not have a hand mold made, yet. I do have this photo of a foot mold. A. It isn't a flexible mold. Well, it was half plaster and half moulage. B. I was not casting resin, but carving wax. C. The feet are about 9cm long, for a 60cm BJD D. The toes are not separated. E. The mold in the photo is upside-down. The funnel-shaped pouring cup should be up. However, I was concerned about air being trapped in the toes. So my solution to the perceived problem was to do an indirect gravity pour, and have small air vents coming out of the tips of the toes. So, while the specifics are not in any way like yours, perhaps the principles might help?
I'll get pictures of mine tonight... Basically, since my hands are less than a cm long on my little guys I realized I wasn't "not" going to get airbubbles....so I instead made placed in my molds to get airbubbles that weren't on my final hand....worked great!
Whitewings, if you are getting bubbles in the fingertips, you need to pour the resin, then cover the vents and tap the mold firmly on the table to get the resin into the fingertips. I had the same problem with Briar's fingers when I molded her for Sleetwealth. I was also then using a transparent silicone so I could see the tips and whether or not they had been filled. After you tap the mold check to see if you need to top it up, too. I mold with the fingers pointing down and pour into the wrist ball.
It is amazing to me that the working solution is also one of the simplest !!! I will try that technique with my upcoming hand molds. Thanks twigling !!! )
No problem! It was devastating to pull out those tiny hands and find the fingertips missing. But covering the holes with something and banging the mold quite firmly into the table, forced the resin into the tips. Forgot to say, I glove mold the hands and have a slit down either side of the mold, so there are no seams between the fingers (until the mold starts to wear and tear a bit).
Seconding tapping the molds. My first casts that I did (with no vacuum or anything) pretty much all came out great as long as I gave each a couple hard taps on the floor (unfortunately I tossed them when I moved or else I'd take pics). I've also heard of people vibrating their molds by setting them on top of their washer or dryer while curing, but I've never done it, and it sounds like a recipe for disaster; although I'm sure there's other ways. Just make sure you have a strong mother-mold, though, or tapping the molds will just cause them to separate and leak.
I would second the request for any pictures of this. I havnt successfully cast hands yet and am looking to try again soon. I do have a suggestion I am going to try - fill from the bottom. That is, the fill hole is higher level than tips of fingers and goes down to the palm/ball part, with the hand upright. I got the idea from that forum on model resin casting (whose name I cant now remember) - they case small parts in resin this way with no bubbles etc. Let me come back and edit with a link #edit - on reflection - its like kw's picture of feet, but for hands you see how she has the fill up the top, higher than the toes, and the resin would fill from the bottom. I am going to try this. The other tip they gave at that forum was to put some talc in the mould..
thanks guys - I've had a crappy weekend but getting much better Anyone else have any pics? I'm thinking I'll try KW and Twigs theories when I'm able to get back to work.....
I just molded a brown microcrystalline wax hand in hot-pour moulage (reusable), then cast it in carving wax. After both pieces of the mold were finished, I used an X-Acto knife to carve some air vents from the fingertips, then connected those air vents to an air vent that went to the top of the mold. This carving wax casting will be used on Carving Wax Test Doll. In this case, I made a direct pour into the wrist ball joint. You can see that the carving wax solidified in the air vents before it got too far, but the fingers filled with carving wax. Please excuse the poor quality photo, and the sloppy mold making. Hopefully, it will give you some ideas for designing your own molds? http://atelierpoupee.blogspot.com/2011/04/moulage-hand-mold-n-5.html
Thats great KW, the mold looks great! - I'm not sure how to translate it into silicone though as the principle is definitely there but being able to make such tiny air vents without actually molding around something would be a challenge on its own.... It isnt as simple as carving the bits into silicone unfortunately
air vents I used an X-Acto razor knife to cut a small "V" into one side of a two-piece mold after both halves of the mold were made. First I cut an air vent from the fingers, then I connected those air vents with the long one that goes to the top. I do agree that cutting moulage is much easier than cutting silicone rubber. But an air vent does not have to be very big. I think an indirect pour works better, with the air vents at the top. But this way has a lot less gating (sprues, runners, gates, vents) than an indirect pour.
I tried something similar to your set up KWM with a one piece mold and funnel to pour directly into the ball joint in the wrist - except I inserted wires into the tips of the fingers and made a glove mould with one seam down the pinkie side - then using Twigs advice I tapped the mold hard to force the resin in and had a near perfect cast - its a lot of work to clean off the excess from the wrist but the seamless fingers are great!!!
Woohoo !!! I'm so happy to hear you achieved some success !!! ) Congrats !!! Mold making is a craft skill, and it requires lots of practice to get good at it. Those who succeed, are the ones who work hard, persevere, and have a wee bit 'o luck. :p The wires inserted into the tips of the fingers sounds like a very clean method. Well done. Please share some pictures, if at all possible? I know it is difficult to share pix of a glove mold.... Maybe some pix of the cast hands, with the pouring cup, sprues, runners, gates, etc? I can glean much information from looking at an untrimmed cast doll part. Plus, some pix of the molds might be nice, if you have them? I am always interested in the various mold boxes that people use for their silicone molds. :arrr
I've just poured another pair and put them in the pot so I'll take photos of them pre-cleanup and post them here.... the molds are bright blue but I'll see what I can get in a photo....