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second go at a doll - critique welcome please!

Jan 27, 2010

    1. The colour is looking all even too. Congrats on getting this far. I'm really glad you're carefully documenting all your casting stuff. I don't feel too intimidated by the idea of a pressure pot now either. :XD
       
    2. Unless you halp her cross over to the "dark side" ;)

      She's looking fantastic BTW - its been really interesting reading up on your feelings about the upper torso joint - I love how they look but damn if they dont give you grief fitting well LOL

      Also a heads up - I just bought 5 kg of Ultrasil condensation cured silicone from Barnes Products www.barnes.com.au at a reduced price - $187 vs the usual $260 - its booger green but I'm thrilled with how well its works - despite the cure time of 6 hours....

      I usually use Pinkysil too but becuase it cured so fast I found it difficult to pour then pressurise in the pressure pot properly - and if you have a pinkysil mold that wasnt cured under pressure - you can get the porcupine effect if you cast resin in it under pressure - despite the "no bubbles" they are still there and in microscopic abundance :dead

      (Oh and one of my compressors came from Supa Cheap too - smoking good deal!!!!!)
       
    3. Hi Whitewings - thanks for your comments :) and *thanks* for the headsup about ultrasil (lol booger green) - What a good price! I will run off to buy some since I am almost out of pinkysil. Iagree, Pinkysil does cure very quickly, you do have to have everything setup to pressure right away.

      A question for you - what bar do you pressure to? I can only get to about 3.2, which is I think about 43 psi before my paint pot safety valve blows. It seems to be high enough to blow out the bubbles, but I did read that you need to be at about 4 bar or 60 psi.
       
    4. I finally have gotten to the feet and fixed the poseability of the arms. I have been making locks and testing her posing before casting the final moulds (now I have a pressure pot, life is good!) She stands well, and I only have her hands to string as well as a bit more sanding.
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    5. I'm so jealous! Especially of those knees. Double jointing adds so much more value in my eyes. Congrats on getting your pressure pot together!
       
    6. Eeep!! She's so sweet - and what a poser! =)
      Love that last photo, especially!

      Good luck with the mould making. I hate that part >_<
       
    7. thanks Jphobia and aneemal. I am not sure about the knees - next time I woujld prpbably make the double jointing more hidden, but I like the posing that it gives you. I have a shinydoll, who has the best posing in the world and I am using her for joint inspiration. I might need to add a cup in the thigh joint for additional poseability in mark 2 as well. But this one I want to get finished!!!

      aneemal, yes I hate the mouldmaking!!! hate hate hate - I still dont really have it down pat. But having a pressure pot takes a lot of the pressure off (pun not intended)
       
    8. I really like the way your doll is coming along!!!
      Mold making is a craft skill that takes time and experience to get good at.
      I'm looking forward to seeing more of this doll! Well done! :)

      OMG! Doi Shin is one of my very fave Japanese doll makers.
      (Do you have any pix of your Shiny Doll anywhere?)
       
    9. thanks KW! yes Doi Shin is a genius. even though I have my very own shinydoll, I still cant work out how he manages such elegant simple jointing with such amazing poseability. Here is a link to my picassa shinydoll pictures

      https://picasaweb.google.com/laitdoux/ShinyDoll#
       
    10. Wow she looks amazing, I ADORE her outline from the back, her waist, bum shape and hips & thighs so soooo much. ehe sorry I feel weird saying that, but it's really nice ^-^~ Gawd, I can only dream of being at this stage with any of my projects, you must be so excited!
       
    11. aww thanks crowtree - such lovely comments - I did try to make her curvaceous. I, too love the lines of a beautiful back and bottom, its not weird at all. But oh I adore your current little one, he has a beautiful bum too!! I am awed at your talent! I do hope your tiny one gets to a finished stage. This girl has taken me 2, count them, 2 years!!!!!! to get to this point, and we still have <ack> moulding and casting in front of us!
       
    12. Ahhh, the ears are so cute and delicate on her!
       
    13. Well her hands are test strung. After taking these photos, her nose broke! hey ho, another repair will be required before I can cast her. So now, one thigh, her face and one foot still need a little work before casting next weekend! Critique welcome, since I can still make adjustments!
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    14. Oh glimmer, I am so in love with your doll !!! :love
      I'm sorry to hear about her broken nose. I am hoping the repair goes well.
      It is so exciting to see her this close to being finished.
      Also I love to see your mold making process, it is so helpful for understanding how to do it.
      I am wishing you all the best wishes for success with repairing, molding, and casting this doll !!! :)
       
    15. Thanks KW you are so nice! I must say, I am gleaning everything I can from *your* mould making process that is so beautifully documented on your blog >..< But still, I will try to document mine as well, but not as well as yours is.
       
    16. It has taken a long time to get reasonable moulds and bubble free casts for me. I am still working on the lower leg moulds, I have a bucket full of epic fail, mould wise. But here is what I have cast so far, with the first freckly faced head cast made up as a red head lol. I find the first cast usually is having a lot of little bits & pieces in it. My only remaining moulds and casts are for the lower legs, forearms and hands. I ran out of silicon, so am waiting for some to complete those.
      I need to dremel out the eyewells a little more, they are too thick around the lower lids
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    17. She is gorgeous in that red hair !!!
      I just love all of her lines. :love
      This is so exciting to seeing her so close to being finished. :))

      Hold on to those failed silicone molds.
      In Pop Sculpture, Tim Bruckner explains how to use them.
      He chops them up into 1/4 to 1/2 inch cubes (6mm-12mm).
      Then he puts the cubes in the mold box around the (sulfur-free) clay sculpt.
      He pours new silicone over the cubes, and up to two inches above the cubes.
      Then he puts the mold in the pressure pot.
      The pressure is what pushes new silicone into all the spaces between the cubes.
      He calls these waste molds, and he uses them to cast carving wax for refining the sculpt.

      However, for the molds of the refined carving wax, for casting resin, he only uses new silicone.
       
    18. Beautiful face very sweet and beautiful body too!
       
    19. She is fantastic! The body is so graceful. And her freckled face is adorable.
       
    20. thanks kw, cerchio and dollblue. Kw, I have tried to reuse as much of the silicon as possible by cutting it into chunks as you describe. However, there is still an awful lot of waste as I learn to make moulds. I am totally going to get that book though, it sounds interesting.
       
    21. Yeah, if only someone would write a book (like Pop Sculpture), except for making a ball jointed doll, instead of garage-kit figurines and action figures, with all the steps in it, then we would really have it made. It would have to be a combination of the best features from Yoshida Style BJD Making Guide, Learning To Be A Doll Artist, and Pop Sculpture, all rolled into one. All the information needed is probably right here at The Joint, but it is scattered all over the place. We need a BJD-pedia making for BJDs.
      :)
       
      #141 kwmelvin, Jun 1, 2011
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    22. Update. I have cast all parts except her hands. I have more work to do on her knee joints, full redesign as she is having trouble not kicking. I am really happy with her except for her knees :(
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    23. She's really pretty. She has an adorable little face and looks gorgeous as a red-head. I love that first photo!! About the knees... you could try adding a small locking device - a notch in one part and a groove in the other...
       
    24. She is absolutely gorgeous !!! :love
      She is stunning in that wig and dress.
      She was definitely worth waiting for, glimmer.
      Congratulations !!!
      :)
       
    25. Thanks Aneemal and KW! I will try a locking mod on the knees before total redesign, and she doesnt have her own hands yet, so shes not quite all done.....
       
    26. The resin match looks so close on the hands, I thought they were hands that you cast. :)
       
    27. This is a very late update. It has basically taken me 2 years to make my own pair of hands that I was happy with. The main reason was that we moved and I lost my craft space and have only just got somewhere I can work again. I tried many different materials with small wire armatures - epoxy, wax, sculpy, air dry clay. And many different methods - i.e. fingers separately, whole hand and so on. Finally I decided to ditch the armature and found a poly clay that is a lot firmer than sculpt - la doll. Its great - I found I could do the fingers without armature. I got a little oven so I could bake instead of boil and voila - 2 nice hands. Unfortunatly, I broke one of them trying to make a plaster cast to get a wax cast to add a little more detail. I also did a silicon mould that produces truncated fingers, so I have to do another hand. Fail pics here

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      I have also improved her jointing in feet and hips and made new forearms that I plaster cast and then made a wax copy of. I made my own wax - its great, so easy to get a smooth finish on. Probably a bit soft, I will have to refine recipe, but workable.

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      and Twigling left me some silicon - so i tried to make a cast of my forearm with it. normally I use pinkysil, but I tried hers and I love that it is clear although the second part of the mould I used too much hardener and it was all soft and gooey, so I will do a second mould of it today. The instruction said 10% of part B. This means take part A and then use 10% of that as part b. so 200 ml of part A needs 20 ml of part b, not 180ml part a and 20ml part b. I learnt that the hard (or soft silicon) way.

      I also made some wax copies of new elbow joints. My plaster moulding needs a lot of work. they were remarkably unsuccessful - a lot of plaster adhering to the cast part, friable plaster, poor separation of 2 part moulds and so on. sigh.

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      #147 Bridget McCall, Jan 11, 2014
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    28. Beautiful work glimmer.
      Those hands are very expressive.
      You inspire me to keep going.

      I am happy to hear that you have a new space to work.
      I am looking forward to seeing more !!!

      Love, love, love !!!
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    29. aww thanks Kw - you are so marvellously encouraging!
       
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