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SD photography tips

May 2, 2011

    1. Hello everyone! Me again! Okay, so I'm having an issue that is truly frustrating me. At first, it wasn't, because I was content with mostly face shots, but then I slipped up and got a tiny. :D Now that I have a tiny, I realize how vexing it is trying to photograph SD-sized dolls. Minus my tiny, my dolls are 72cm, 65cm, and 60cm. My girl, at 65cm, poses the best but it's hard to capture it all in a picture without all this empty space surrounding her in an attempt to fit her completely (or as completely as I want) in the frame. I figure cropping is probably the way to go but I don't want to lose detail. So, any tips would be appreciated. If cropping out the empty space is truly the way to go, are there any Photoshop tips to have it not lose quality? And, if it's possible to do it without cropping at all, any examples would be great. I'm just at a loss. I feel like the answer should be simple but I haven't been able to figure it out without taking hundreds of unsatisfactory pictures. :...(
       
    2. I don't understand. Why would you "lose detail" by cropping out empty space? The number of pixels on the subject wouldn't change.

      If you mean that when the dolls are standing, there's too much space on either side of them, change the pose to be more square-ish (kneel, recline, sit, group, extend limbs, etc.), alter the angle (tilt so the body line points into the corners), fill the gaps with scenery/sets/props, or wear more "poofy" outfits that simply take up more space sideways.

      Or just accept that some limbs will be excluded from the final product. Most portraits are not full body shots. Is it really necessary to "capture it all"?
       
    3. I think it's just my lack of experience with Photoshop but, whenever I alter a picture in anyway, the quality seems to go down. I'm sure there's a reason for this but I can't figure it out. That will probably get better with time, I hope, but I was wondering if anyone knew randomly offhand why that would happen. :-) But, on the "capture it all" front, I've just seen some great MSD/tiny pics that are full-body and GORGEOUS and I just would love to do that with my SDs. Mind you, I will admit defeat if I have to for now and hope that, as I get better, it will click. In the meantime I keep figuring there has to be a way! :D

      I will definitely try your tips, though!
       
    4. I've read and re-read the original post now and I don't get what the problem is, particularly with reference to the size also. Care to describe it differently? What works, what isn't working? How about some actual photo examples of good and bad?
       
    5. Okay, now that I've slept on it a bit, I think what you are seeing are JPEG compression artifacts. I won't know for sure without seeing an example, but I'm guessing that you are working from a JPEG and saving to another JPEG. I suspect that the process was not "clean", meaning that Photoshop is applying compression again on the image, which would ugly it up pretty good. Here is a list of applications that can do lossless operations on JPEG (which won't affect quality), but I will say up front that I have not used these personally.

      If you do lots of Photoshop, I would suggest working from TIFF or PNG files when possible.

      EDIT: I think you can get Photoshop to do a lossless operation by setting no compression/best quality when saving. Problem is I only have Elements 7 and it is not in front of me so I can't necessarily help you identify the setting on your screen.
       
    6. When you open the crop tool in photoshop, the top bar changes to a crop-specific options thing. Are there any numbers entered into the boxes there? If so, it'd be resizing and cropping at the same time, which would explain the quality loss.
       
    7. Sorry I wasn't clear. Before posting, I had seen this GORGEOUS minifee shoot and it made me jealous because I can't see HOW to get similar shots with a way taller doll. So I wondered if there were any hints on how to achieve something like it or if it was just all trial and error. After thinking about it, I mostly think it's trial and error and getting the doll's height to work for you and working FOR the height too. I mean, a 65cm doll is NOT a minifee. So, I can't expect to get the SAME results but I can definitely work hard at it. I'm going to try some things out and go from there. I'd have examples to post already but I delete all my bad/never going to post them pics, unfortunately. :-/

      Oh! You know what, I never thought of ANY of this! I'll actually look into this and fiddle around with it. Plus, as I have just checked, my camera is taking JPEGs, not PNGs like I want so maybe that is turning into an issue. I'll play around with and see and maybe my whole pile of concern isn't concern after all. After all, honestly, I don't mind cropping or manipulating a pic but, to be honest, losing quality frustrates me so much that I try not to touch a pic too much unless absolutely necessary. Thank you for all the help! XD

      I'll try that too. I'm not used to manipulating my own photography in photoshop, honestly, so I'm used to just opening it, doing a regular crop and going about my business. I'm just going to need to take the time to learn it now. XD
       
    8. Shoot to RAW. If you're using photoshop anyway, there's no reason not to except for the hard drive and card space, and that's cheap enough these days to be worth the investment.
       
    9. What your problem is is getting the whole doll (or as much of the body as you want) into the shot, right? :) Because larger dolls are proportionally taller than your tiny.

      I'd also like to know the answer to this. 'How can you get a nice photo of a full body shot (to show clothes, for example)?' (And without using an angle which gives EXTREME foreshortening.)
       
    10. Do you mean something like this? I didn't crop any of these.

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      Unless you crop, all the background is empty (unless there is a backdrop of some sort).

      This is Volks photo. I believe this is not cropped either. It is empty behind him versus mine with background.

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      If you crop it will take away less of the empty spaces behind him.

      I always shoot in raw now, edit in DPP (my poor photoshop 7 doesn't open raw). After I convert them into jpeg, then I do a bit more editing in PS.

      I forgot to mention that also use a photo uploading service that doesn't compress the quality of your photos. Photobucket used to do a lot of it in secrecy (people do not know it unless they right click on the photo after it has been uploaded to see the size of the photo has been compressed by at least 50%. The dimension is still the same so many people did not notice. They do this even for PAID members which outraged me so I don't use PB anymore (except for sale photos). I use zenfolio for a little over a year now and I like it lots.

      PB hasn't been compressing as heavily as before now I noticed but still compresses a little bit. So I still don't use them for photoshoots. ^^
       
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