Scammer alert! Have you seen her? Joyce AKA Joycie AKA LilyDryad AKA lystrade

Oh My God That's My Missing Doll!!!!!!


EDIT: Sorry for the all caps, but yes. That is my doll!!! I have photos of her if needed!!

EDIT#2: So it's never actually been sent to anyone? I'm sorry if people have been buying her, but she belongs to me. I'm not sure what to do to go about fixing this.

 

Sorry if it's not alright for me to post, as I'm not directly involved,
But could you post links or pictures or something so that we can keep a look out on this marketplace too?

Thanks,
~Yako



And OMFG, Lenneth, that hardcore sucks! D=< When did she go missing, and do you know the area? Like, a convention or what not?

 

I loaned her the doll to make clothing over a year ago - she decided she didn't like it, didn't want to do it, and I made many trips to her home to pick it up. Every single time, she'd "forget" I was coming, and go off partying with her friends. Her father would answer the door, and refuse to go into her room and get it for me.

So, I decided to have her ship it to me. I sent her multiple payments for shipping and she never mailed it out.



This is the Tender Bee-A in question. When I lent it to Joyce, it had on a red, curly wig, and a solid, light yellow dress.

You can't see it in this picture, but her entire forehead is yellowed.

Seconding the request for links to these "sales".

 

wait she stole your doll??? but you know where she lives??

 

PLEASE read everything before you post.

AGAIN:

"I loaned her the doll to make clothing over a year ago - she decided she didn't like it, didn't want to do it, and I made many trips to her home to pick it up. Every single time, she'd "forget" I was coming, and go off partying with her friends. Her father would answer the door, and refuse to go into her room and get it for me.

So, I decided to have her ship it to me. I sent her multiple payments for shipping and she never mailed it out."

 

After reading many horror stories about the police not giving a darn about a missing dollie, and also the fact that a Tender Bee-A isn't worth enough to warrant police involvement(doesn't it have to be over 500$?), I never did. Plus, since it had been over a year I assume I'd be taken as a joke.

:/

I do feel terrible that others are being frauded now, so I will give whatever information I have. :/

 

Does this have anything to do with Den of Angels? Is the person being discussed a member here?

 

I have no idea, that's why we're all hoping the original poster of this thread could be a little more detailed.

I guess lock it temporarily until they can give us more information?

 

Hmmmm....well, certainly, YOU must know her name? How did you originally contact her?

Until further clarification is given, chat will be deleted. Warning folks off a potential scammer is good - but there's just not enough information here.

 

You should also be aware that in most cases when somebody has a piece of property of yours, you can usually get a police officer to escort you to their home to get it returned to you if you have some sort of proof. I would recommend doing so in this matter.

 

She was never a DoA member that I knew of - she knows nothing about BJD's at all.

This is all new to me - and I'm just as much in the dark as you. I only know the scammer's real name, phone numbers, and addresses, and now I know she's using my property to scam people.

I'm sorry I'm not of much use here.

 

I'm thinking that exposing someone who has tried to fraudulently sell what is very much stolen property (LadyLenneth has been trying to recover her doll for at least one year, as it was loaned in August 2007) that is an ABJD and may attempt to defraud DOA folks in the future, it counts. If the board knows, then any attempts she may make to sell the doll here will be futile.

The community overall, regardless of membership numbers here, is small enough that we can and must put thieves in their place. Having had a doll head stolen, I know how it feels, which is hopefully a feeling that stays rare in the community overall. I also know that the actions of DOA members combined with notifying the board were instrumental in helping to recover my head, as it was sold outside the DOA Marketplace, but yet to a DOA member.

 

I didn't say it didn't "count." I'm asking for less hysterical chat and more concrete warning - names, aliases, last known contact and what exactly we're supposed to be cautioning ourselves about. Thank you.

 

That information is, actually, very useful - thank you! Please keep us updated as to any follow-through you attempt with the information you have as far as contact or pursuing your doll.

 

I know her, and her real name is Joyce. She's also "Lystrade" on Cosplay.Com.

I've looked everywhere on C-Com... I can't find it anywhere. I remember talking to you about this doll like, every time I've seen you since you lent it to her. I hope you get her back!

 

She apparently posted it for sale under the name "LilyDryad", which has since been banned and all ads taken down, including the one for my doll.

Unfortunately, by doing so they have eliminated the proof..which helps us none.

 

BiZria: What was the title of the sales thread/ auction? what was she calling it. ABJD? Tender Bee-?. LadyLenneth says this person doesn't know much about Bjds so i am curious as to what kind of info she has been putting up. (it could be useful info for people who cant load the pix on their computer...like myself )

 

If you had asked about yellowing, I'm sure she wouldn't have understood, along with "Is it sueded?" or "What type body is it?".

I told her what type of doll and brand it was. That's all she really knows.

That's why this is new and somewhat alarming - she only scammed people on cosplay.com before.

 

Hi, so sorry to hear your doll is being used this way and that you felt you couldnt go to the police to get her back BUT I was thinking that now the doll is being used to scam/defraud people out of money then maybe they would be interested now. Afterall there will be an electronic trail of the money going to her and no matter how many aliases she uses it will be able to be traced to her. Might be worth gathering all the information you and the others who have been involved in this to give to the police and see what they can do - IF anything they may be able to advise what you can and cant do legally to gain your property and monies back and bring this scammer to justice.

 

Okay, I would like everyone to PLEASE stop replying to this thread and sending me PM's telling me to get off my butt and do something. I was a spineless wimp in regards to letting my "friend" get away with screwing me over for so long, but that does not mean I have been sitting here doing nothing about these other people's problems.

I am talking to a lawyer, I am talking to all of those involved, I am going to the police, I am filing a class action lawsuit. I have been doing this since the moment I saw this thread. Just because I didn't feel it necessary to openly advertise what I was doing about it yet does not mean I deserve a inbox full of bossy, hateful pms lecturing me.

PLEASE. Enough.

 

If you are receiving hateful PMs you really need to forward them to a mod. That kind of behavior is completely inappropriate. I'm sure the mods will deal with them appropriately.

 

Okay, WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY!

If you have been scammed by Lystrade/Joyce Roberson please PM me - I will need statements, emails, your REAL LIFE contact information, etc.

He says we have a case, we are going to court! I will keep this thread updated.

 

****SCAMMER ALERT DONT BUY FROM id'S lystrade, Lystrade,lystrade4,LilyDryad****

DO NOT BUY FROM THIS SELLER, LilyDryad or lystrade
Sold this one doll to TWO different people so far and kept our money.
Not answering any emails!
STOLE THIS DOLL FROM A DOA'ER AND HAS NOT RETURNED HER.
Anyone who has been rip off please post on your doll forums. this is Not Right ! Filing with the State of Florida and paypal. has Neg feedback on DOA,ZoZ,Cosplay and soon more.

email addresses are:
"Joycie! R" [email protected]
[email protected]
aka's
Joyce,
Jennifer,
Lewit
she can be found on the internet trying to sell more things under id:
lystrade, Lystrade,lystrade4
BEWARE DONT SEND ANY MONEY AND DO NOT MAKE ANY TRADES FOR DOLLS OR COMMISSIONS FOR CLOTHES​

 

I'm one of the people she took money from, the other is BiZria...after no contact with lystrade I googled her id from the auction I bought the doll on and found she was selling it again in the same day. So miffed I contacted BiZria, because of the Neg feedback she left....and found out it's all a big Scam. This is Serious. not a game. Lady Lenneth I've got info for you..and I need her addy for my CC company so they can pursue this further.
Please email me at: [email protected]
I've also posted a Neg feedback for this scammer..Mods feel free to move it where it belongs as long as other members can see and won't be hurt or rip-off like we have been.
Neg posting has been left on Prego,ZoZ and Resinality to get the word out.
~gjc~

 

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Main Category: BJD Doll/MSD ~ 43 cm > Manufactured
Additional Category: Wigs

Dream of Doll Tender Bee-A Includes Wig Auction ID : 100231



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Start Bid USD 59.00
Quantity 1
Location 32129, Florida
Country United States
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Duration 7 days

Seller: LilyDryad [ Open Message Board ]

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I purchased this doll quite a while ago (2 years ago to be exact) and I never really grew attached to it. So I'm offering it for sale. Looking price is 60.00 USD, here are all the measurements:

Dream of Doll Tender Bee-A

* Height : 41cm
* Head : 6~7 inch
* Shoulder width of a garment : 6.5cm
* Circumference of chest ( basis of bust point ) : 18.5cm
* Circunference of waist (the thinese part) : 13cm
* Length of "from neck point thru bust point till waist line" (front) : 7.5cm
* Lenth of "from neck point to bust point" : 4cm
* Circumference of hips : 20 cm
* Lenth of sleeve (till wrist ) : 13.5 cm
* Circumference of upper arm ( the thickest part ) : 5.5 cm
* Arm Hole : 7 cm
* Circumference of wrist : 4.5cm
* Length above lower part : 7 cm
* Length of pants : 19.5 cm
* Length of skirt ( from waist line to knee ) 14 cm
* Length from neck to the tip of toe ) 33 cm
* Foot size : 5.5 cm
* Circumference of calf : 7.5cm
* Circumference of thigh : 10.5cm
* Circumference of neck : 6.8cm
Wig - 7
Eye - 16 mm
Shoe - 5.5 cm

If you need pictures, just leave me a message and I'll send some. It comes with an orange wig that's medium length.

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Shipping Conditions Buyer pays for shipping expenses
Seller ships internationally
Postage USD 7.00
Insurance USD 2.00
Shipping Method DHL

 

This is the doll...

 

Okay, the attorney needs everyone to send me a written statement describing how it took place. This statement needs to be signed by you and notarized.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!! WE CANNOT CONTINUE WITHOUT THESE!!!

Once you have that, please mail it to me - you can get my address by pming me.

 

Just to update, since I'm still getting PMs about why I didn't go to the police:

I did not immediately go to the police because at the time she was my friend and I continued to think that she just hadn't had the time to mail it yet. I was holding out in hopes that it'd show up eventually.

I did call the police and offered to bring the evidence down to her local police station.
They ridiculed me, refused to believe the doll was worth that much, had me running in circles on the phone with them and finally told me that a paypal receipt is not a REAL receipt and can't be accepted as proof that I purchased the doll and it belonged to me.

:/

 

If people are still sending you PMs you need to report them to the mods! You may not mind but if you don't report them they'll probably do the same thing to other people later on.

If the police aren't taking you serious then you need to let the lawyer handle it with them. They'll be more likely to listen to a lawyer.

 

I had an FBI agent come to our work place once about two years ago. He spoke about something else as a main topic, but touched on internet scams and fraud.

You can also try to report her doings to the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint center. I've never had to use it (thank God) so I'm not sure how it works, but if all of you who were hurt by this Joyce report her, they might look into it:

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

[ETA] I meant that if they look into it, there'll have to be a case number and that might help when you do file the class action suit against her, or maybe even get a cop to take this more seriously and come out to her place and get your stuff back.

 

I have an attorney who's taking care of it - I just wanted to update those who keep repeatedly demanding that I go to the police.

 

FYI to any Ebay users: This person is also an Ebay member under the email [email protected] but Ebay will not give me any other info because I have not recently done business with her. Just be alert that she is there as well and the doll in question could pop up.

 

I think this is her eBay profile:

http://myworld.ebay.com/lystrade

It doesn't look like she's had any eBay transactions since June of 2008.

 

lystrade has received negative feedback on eBay before, but because it's so old, it wasn't taken into calculating the feedback ratios anymore.

I'd encourage those who are in the process of buying dolls on eBay to keep an eye out for the Bee-A and report it to eBay if she pops up, especially under the user lystrade.


[ETA]. And btw

*LOL* XP

 

Updating with some bad news -

Apparently I can get MY doll back - but I cannot make any decisions or take her to court on the behalf of someone else.

What I can do is take all the documentation and evidence I am currently gathering to the police station and they will take it from there - but I cannot file a lawsuit unless all of you are with me in person, which is impossible. I cannot represent you in court in an attempt to get your money back. You can call the attorney yourself and make arrangements for a class action lawsuit - but that costs alot of money that I know noone has. In a nutshell, unless we spend hundreds on an attorney, noone will get any money back or their items.

So for now, send me everything you've got - and the police will handle it from here.

Apologies.

 

Has this been forwarded to Bad_Dolly_Deals? More people with information might come out of the woodwork that way?

 

UPDATE!!!

The lawyer sent a letter out giving her 7 days to return the doll to his office.

7 days came and went, no sign of contact despite several calls.

And then a package showed up.

I do not have photos, but she is in one piece. Her sueding was removed, she is definitely more yellowed, very dirty, eyelashes are crushed/hanging out and the wig is destroyed.

I have no MSD items right now, so I will be browsing the marketplace to find her a new look.

If you have had problems with this seller, please don't hesitate to PM me. Leaving messages on her cell phone seems to work - the attorney did so and it got results.

I apologize to those of you who wanted to bring my girl home. I was planning on giving her outright to whoever had purchased her, but with more than one person going empty handed, I'm not sure what to do about this - so if I could please have the two of you pm me your mailing addresses and perhaps an idea of what size dolls you do have and what kind of clothing they wear and I will try my best to make sure you don't go uncompensated.

 

I am very glad to hear that you got your girl back.

I've been following this and I am glad to see that you got what was yours.

 

Congrats, LadyLenneth! That is good news indeed. I hope the others you have been in contact with receive similar results in their own "quests."

 

Glad you got the doll back!

 

As requested - here are photos.

Her face up had to be removed and she had to be taken apart, cleaned and reassembled. She is currently wearing an SD wig and jacket.






As for the rest of the people she scammed, I am still involved with the police on the matter, although now it is off topic(as that is cosplay.com, not Den of Angels or doll-related in any way.)

 

It appears that she cleaned up pretty well. ^^ So glad to see that you got her back!