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Resin Toxicity

Apr 15, 2005

    1. If you get a small container and fill it with bi carb soda and leave it in your cabinent it may absorb the chemical stink and then just toss the bicarb after a few months and replace it till the smells are gone
       
    2. :aheartbea A person can be allergic to resins, just like any other sort of plastic - but it needs to get into your blood stream.

      So wear masks and guard open wounds. :doh
       
    3. Some people seem to be allergic tot he dolls themselves? o__o;
      I'm not too worried about the MSC, oddly. I've used lots of fixatives before, and I know when I'm being stupid with them and asking for trouble.

      What I'm now worried about is being allergic to the resin itself... I hope I'm not, as I would like to get a doll! I am a severe asthmatic, and I do have many allergies and sensitivities- but not any to plastics or chemicals though (oddly). I've been in a small store for a few hours with probably... half a dozen BJDs and even held a few, but I had no reaction. Anyone who has allergies to the dolls themselves- does it kick in right away? How long would it take to get a reaction?

      I think, (and I hope) I'm just being cautious.
       
    4. I have athsma, and have not had any problems with sanding resin or with sealants. I do these things outside to be safe, and I wet-sand resin and wear a particle respirator. I can't even smell the resin dust while wearing the respirator, and haven't had any negative effects from getting it on my skin, but I make sure to wash them well after sanding because my puppy likes to lick my hands a lot, and I want her to be safe. :sweat
      As for sealant, I use the Zoukeimura Powder spray, and have sprayed it before without wearing a mask-- I just took a deep breath, held it, and turned my head away while spraying it.
      Like I said, I'm asthmatic... and I have a lot of trouble with just breathing in every day things like car exhaust and cigarette smoke. I can't even be near someone who's smoking without holding my breath, because I have a very severe reaction to it... but luckily I've just taken a few basic precautions and haven't had any trouble with resin or sealant.
       
    5. I wouldn't recommend doing that. Resin dust leaves a MESS. I'm not allergic to most chemicals but I am bothered by them. My mom has to close the door when she's bleaching the bathroom or even using furniture polish because it makes me cough and have a headache, and certain chemical smells actually make my tongue go numb. But when I sanded resin I didn't seem to have any reaction to it. I sanded outside using a scarf for a mask, but when I did touch-ups I didn't wear a mask and I was okay.. I think it is a case-by-case thing. If you're worried because you sanded indoors without a mask, but you're feeling fine, then you're probably okay :)
       
    6. I hope this is the right forum.

      I'm getting a BJD from Dream of Doll. I'm not doing any editing on him but I know resin can be toxic and I'm really scared. if I touched him and sucked on my finger would I die? If I accidentally scratched him with my fingernail would I die? I'm scared.

      How can I be precautious about the toxic dust and what will make the dust come out [scratching with a fingernail etc.]
       
    7. Hi there~

      First : Sry for bad english~

      Just if you touch him you dont die !! Oo;
      ( so anyone who have BJds would just die from just touching them for making Pictures XD )

      Only the dust ( if you removing seamlines or if you do anything like sanding ) that can be dangerous.
      Just use a Mask for this.
       
    8. My boyfriend said resin comes out of his BJDs joints, how can I prevent that? D:
       
    9. Resin in the solid form is not toxic at all. It's only when it's floating around as dust or in pre-cured form that you have to watch out. Resin dust only kicks up if you sand it. If you ever plan to modify your doll by sanding him, it is advisable to wear a dust mask so you can protect your lungs. But it would take repeated and constant exposure over a long period of time before it would kill you.

      So you can touch your doll and not worry at all!

      Edit: A bit of resin powder may appear between your doll's joints due to wear (though this little bit is relatively harmless). A good way to prevent this is to apply something like pliver, silicone or even hot glue on the ball parts so that the parts don't scrape against each other.
       
    10. You won't die I promise! loz64 is right; its only toxic in its liquid state! You can lick him if you want! Nothing will happen! :)
       
    11. X'D Ah jeez,your reaction was so cute X'D
      Your not going to die.
      Yes, Resin is toxic, but if intentionally inhaled, there could be a problem, if anything, a headache would occur. Now, if you have a huge lot of dust on your finger and you sucked it, that wouldnt be brilliant now would it?
      Sorry if i sounded ewwish, I was not trying to be mean, Im playing around with you.
      Dont worry ok? Dont inhale it. Lot of people suggest wearing masks when working with Resin...
      You can touch him, y'know, if we were to die from it, alot of us DOA users would be pushing up daisies already ^^; Also, about your boyfriends joints, I would suggest re-restringing him by taking him apart to see why, but Im guessing some sort of friction against the joints is occuring...
       
    12. Okay thanks for the reassurance guys. D: I'm young and extremely paranoid about health issues.

      So if he comes with little chunks of resin in him what do I do? Pull them out and throw them away?
       
    13. I have a DOD, and they do come with some dust in their joints. I've had him for almost three months, and sometimes I still get little chips falling out. o.o
      When he first came, I just wiped the dust away and I throw out the chips. And the cured resin isn't toxic at all~ I<3mySD is exactly right. I ended up licking my boy's hand when I accidentally got frosting on it. I wasn't thinking when I did it, and washed it off afterward, but I'm perfectly fine! xD
       
    14. I just had this weird mental image of people licking there dolls when I read that :lol:

      Although I wouldn't recommend putting any part of a doll in your mouth that has been coated with a sealant spray like MSC. That stuff is pretty toxic and shouldn't ever be in your mouth. It's fine to touch it though :)
       
    15. Okay. ): But how do I take the chips out thats my problem.
       
    16. This whole "toxic-talk" made me quite hysteric. :o

      Is anyone able to say in what condition do Iplehouse basics arrive?
      Are they really dusty and require alot of cleaning before they are fairly "safe-to-play"?


      Thanks for advice. :aheartbea
       
    17. There won't be chips in him.

      BJD's are hollow. with time their joints wear a little, but this is harmless.

      As long as you don't sand him or anything for modification, it won't cause any harm.
      Even if you do sand him, it's only deadly and problematic if you do it alot.

      Edit: Chips can occur, but they will just fall out naturally. Just throw it away. Getting them out is not the problem
       
    18. Resin is toxic in it's liquid form. We use the term "toxic" for the dust, too, but my understanding is that the primary issue with the dust is that it never degrades if it gets in your lungs. So if you're sanding and breathing in the dust, especially repeatedly over time, it can damage your lungs. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, there!) I've had no problems with dust or chips at all with any of my boys, for what it's worth. If a chip falls out of your doll, first check to see if it's somewhere visible or necessary for posing, and if it is carefully glue it back (I'd use superglue). If it's not, just throw it away.
       
    19. DOD (dream of doll) dolls do have chips/really thin curls of resin that fall out (I've heard multiple people say this happened, and it happens with my Lahoo that I got in April), but don't worry to much about them; when they fall out just throw them away.
      It shouldn't be a problem getting them out, you can just pull the lower legs out of the socket to get some of it, but that's not necessary because they'll come out on their own, just don't freak out if/when it happens, haha.

      There will also probably be a heavy smell of resin and possibly some casting residue, and you can just wipe him/her down lightly with a non-colored towel or paper towels. The smell usually goes away after a couple of days of being out of the box.
       
    20. If you're feeling brave, when your doll first arrives, give it a bath! :)

      Unstring it completely, make sure to take note of what parts go where, and just run them under the faucet.

      This will loosen and wash away any rogue bits of resin it may have in his joints/insides and generally remove anything it may have picked up or been exposed to through its journey from the factory.. You can gently scrub it with a soft cloth or magic eraser WITHOUT SOAP if your doll is unblushed/unsealed.

      Make sure every piece dries completely, then feel free to suede/wire/kip/etc your doll while its disassembled, then reassemble. You should have no worries from that point and your doll won't need any maintenance for a long time after!

      Edit: I wouldn't wash the head unless it comes completely blank (no faceup/blushing/sealant). If its blank, feel free to wash it too, it will take a faceup more easily after a gentle washing.
       
    21. D: Zuka Engel;; I'm 14 years old and I've never had a doll before!!!!! T__T I've never even seen one in real life, so I can't really restring//do a faceup//wash him [I'm so scared].

      Many people have told me to give him a gentle bath when he arrives and i might do that. Im thinking ill just stretch his joints a bit to get the big chunks out and throw them away....I just want to make sure those are not harmful.

      Also, what if I like touch him then bite my fingernail [because I do that a lot]--do I need to wash my hands a lot? Sorry for so many questions Im just so nervous.
       
    22. Unless you're regularly chewing on his resin, I really wouldn't sweat it! We've all survived many years of handling our dolls without dying, I reckon you'll probably cope ;)

      As others have said, if it worries you overly, give him a bath, re-stringing is not one of the dark arts, there's a world of tutorials and it's childsplay to be honest :)
       
    23. Really, if you don't want to restring, just take a damp soft cloth and wipe him down. You will not be harmed in any way by touching him and then biting your nails. Restringing is not that hard, though!

      Really, just relax and enjoy your doll. You'll be fine!
       
    24. XD Relax, ok?

      You may want to do that. All you really need to do is gently wipe his body down with a wet cloth.

      Okay, (and I hope I'm not coming across as rude here, because I don't intend to) there are NOT going to be chunks of resin coming out of anywhere on your doll. If there are, something is probably wrong. You don't need to worry much about resin chips because there should not be any inside him.

      Touching your doll and then biting your fingernails is not going to hurt you. Unless you are chewing on him and swallowing pieces or snorting resin dust or something, the resin isn't going to hurt you. About the worst thing that could happen is you could turn out to be allergic to it, but I don't know how likely that is.

      Really, just relax and enjoy your new boy.
       
    25. Resin isn't a poison :sweat Its only toxic, meaning it could have later effects if you are exposed to it alot, when its first being molded or if you literally eat it!

      Don't worry yourself, you're going to love your doll and I promise he won't hurt you :chocoberry

      I suggested unstringing him because you don't want his strings to get wet, its bad for them. If you just wipe him down gently, that should be fine too. Taking care of your doll will be a little hard when you're first learning, but you'll pick up things quickly.

      Bottom line - Be brave!
       
    26. D: Okay! I'm going to try hardest to give him a quick wipedown and be brave but it's so scary T__T; I just don't want to wreck him or like yuh....caause my parents are being really mean about buying him [they didn't think I'd ever be able to save up the money] and they think I dunno..lots of bad stuff about him. ): My dad and mum are going on and on about "Is he going to look like the devil" "Is he going to have red eyes" "is he going to be mean and scary lookign"

      T_T I just wnat to show him i love him and hes not bad.

      Thanks for all your advice.
       
    27. Hello dear,
      My sister and I both have DoD dolls. I am 18(and was 17 when I got my first doll) but she is 12, and was only 11 when we ordered hers. When our dolls first arrived, there was a little bit of very fine dust on the joints, but we've had them for over 5 months now and neither of us have found any "chunks" of resin-- definitely not any "large chunks".
      I carry around my doll all the time-- I have also sanded his seam lines off and modified his eyes, and I've given him faceups before. I took necessary precautions like wearing a mask and always doing this work outside, and I have had no health issues.
      Also, my sister and I have both restrung our dolls. It's not as hard as it sounds, and there are wonderful tutorials on restringing both here on DoA and on YouTube. You can also feel free to PM me when your doll gets here and I can wak you through how to resrting your doll. That way you can take the darling apart and wash off the dust to make yourself feel extra-safe(though, like I said, it's okay to touch it. It won't hurt you).
      Resin is also quite solid indeed, so you won't scratch any off with your fingernails, I can guarantee you. Most likely you will only scratch off any resin if you're really trying to. Once you get the doll and feel the testure of the resin, you'll be able to tell better.
      Anyway, good luck, and I hope that helps. I'm very happy for you that you're getting your doll, despite what your family says-- my mom and brother get the same way about my dolls. You learn to ignore it. =]
       
    28. Wow chill out, bjds aren't treasures of the lost ark and certainly aren't anything to be afraid of! Everyone's right, there aren't going to be any chunks of resin, there definately won't be enough dust to kill you but if you're so worried, just use a damp cloth or even tissue (but don't use any tissues with colour on them, the colours comes off and nto the doll otherwise) to wipe your doll down. Any dust will just stick to a little bit of damp and come straight off.

      Seriously relax. You're not climbing everest, you're joining a great community of doll lovers :)
       
    29. D: WAIT! So if I wash him with a blue washcloth he'll turn blue?!
       
    30. Quoted and emphasised.

      Kitchen roll and tissues with coloured patterns SOMETIMES make the colour run onto resin. Washcloths, unless they're dark coloured and brand spanking new/unwashed, will not.
       
    31. Okay I'll try to stay safe! D:
       
    32. You're seriously overthinking this, it's a hobby, those're meant to be FUN ;) It's great that you wanna do some research, but having a major panic over it will just rob you of the enjoyment of the doll. Try having a look through the sticky threads, they contain a wealth of information and the rest you'll figure out when you have your doll.

      Believe it or not, quite a few of us have managed not to die from regular contact with our dolls, I suspect you'll be fine! :)
       
    33. Okay so, before anyone goes OH GOD WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?!, I am NOT planning on microwaving anything! I'm using a heat gun to mod my elf ears (many thanks for the tip!) and boiling water for the hands XD

      I'm curious- what happens if you microwave resin? Does it melt, become brittle, burn or bubble? Yellow? I'd imagine it would smell like HELL, but has anyone tried it?

      My flatmate is offering to nuke her spare, broken hand, so I'll have photos and results soon if anyone else is curious~

      We let the hand cool thoroughly before re-microwaving it. Microwaved on the upside down bottom of a medium coffee mug- not the inside of it!
      Experiment at your own risk- the hand we used had no makeup on it. remember to take magnets out of a headcap!
      My flatmate keeps dropping hands and snapping off fingers- try not to do that. Also, I recommend using tongs to get it out of the microwave, it's HOT.

      The smell might be our horrible microwave, but I'm pretty sure, from the headache I'm getting, that it's fumes. Do this in a well ventilated area.


      Original hand: ResinSoul Tan resin

      [​IMG]

      15 seconds, 1000wtt: no change.

      30 seconds, 1000wtt: phew! I was right, smells bad ;w; really strong chemical smell, a bit like burning rubber... barely warm, sliiiightly more malleable, no marks on resin.

      1 minute, 1000wtt: No change, quite warm. Smells pretty bad. Very nice, slightly rubbery, springy, almost perfect for molding. No fractures after shaping and cooling.

      [​IMG]


      1 minute, 30 seconds, 1000wtt: VERY soft and rubbery. Still smelly, but the smell vanishes as it cools- no burns or bubbling. Very malleable and warm- bends like an eraser. No fractures after shaping and cooling.

      2 minutes, 1000wtt: Very, very hot and rubbery. We pushed it too hard and fractured a finger, so go slowly- molds well, though.

      No image sorry. Same as above though but with tear in resin from bending to fast

      Water drops you see are from cooling the resin in a bowl of water.


      We decided to stop. After all the desired result have been reached. We will be testing with face-up and sealant shortly after.
       
    34. I'm not excactly a scientist, but microwaving resin is probably quite dangerous, as it could catch fire. It'll almost most positively release toxic fumes.

      If you're wanting to bend things to modify them, some people use things like hairdryers to soften the resin. I think some people also pop parts in the oven for a very short period, then flex the resin.

      Putting it in a microwave seems quite honestly a very unwise thing to do.
       
    35. Microwaving resin can best be described with two words.

      HIGHLY. TOXIC.

      If you haven't already aired the room, I'd be doing that RIGHT NOW and probably seriously NOT wanting to do that anymore. Bad idea. VERY bad idea. Highly noxious fumes are not my idea of breathing fun.
       
    36. The smell is actually not that bad, i have all doors open as well. All precautions were taken(fan etc). No headache or any reaction to the smell. I think it might just be a pizza on the wall of the microwave XDD

      I think a proper research need to be done about resin. I know many companies use Non-toxic resin and there are so many types of it. It will also depend on what companies add to their resin, like colors stabilizers, thickeners and other chemicals to add various qualities.
      I might just do that next >>;
       
    37. Where did you encounter that information?

      Microwaving/burning/melting most types of plastic is generally considered a bad idea, since most plastics, when they burn, release pretty nasty chemicals into the air. I doubt resin is any exception.
       
    38. Try googgling it :> I know some models and such use non toxic stuff, There is a special NT casting resin on the market. Some aquarium ornaments made out of resin and it MUST be non toxic. Plus why some box openings complain about horrible chemical smell and some dont even mention it.

      I just checked and it was indeed my microwave that was producing the smell, resin remained completely odourless.
       
    39. Resin is inert when it is cast and cured but the individual components that you mix to make the resin are not, and exposing it to high temperatures will alter the chemical makeup and release chemicals and fumes. I would not use that microwave for heating foodstuffs again.

      If you want to soften resin you can use hot/boiled water, or place the resin in water (completely covered) and place in microwave.

      Polyurethane BJDs are not placed in fish tanks and are not considered children's toys. I doubt very much that many of the BJDs out there are up to those types of safety standards.

      A lot of companies add thinners to the resin to make it easier pour into the molds. This is usually the smell when you open a new box, or when you sand resin, which also releases these fumes.

      Just because something doesn't smell, doesn't mean it's not harmful to you. I have yet to come across a resin that doesn't come with an MSDS sheet as long as my arm about how nasty it is and what damages it can cause to people and the environment. Many people have become desensitised to isocyanates after working with resin casting, even while working in a well ventilated area and wearing the appropriate safety gear.
       
    40. Thats why i want to do a deeper research into it :> Polyurethane is not THAT harmful...it not much different to plaster or paint. Any dust can cause irritation. All i'm saying some myths need to be busted.:>
       
    41. And some are well founded. Heating by microwave is NOT something we are intended do to anything but food for any good reason. Microwaves heat something by rattling the particles from the inside out. Internal temperatures of any heated object then exceed external, sometimes drastically. Polyurethane is only really safe for human use while it's solid and untampered with- heated, sanded, or otherwise interrupted in structure it can become very dangerous.

      "What's a few brain cells?" "I can't smell anything, it must be fine" "I don't feel sick, it must not be harming me.."
      All famous last words.
      I strongly discourage you from further experimentation, however, you're gonna do what you want to do. *shrug*
       
    42. Oh dear lord. O.o Please tell me you're not planning on putting food in that microwave ever again. The fumes are very much not good and any chemical residue in there could end up making someone ill. This stuff is NOT non-toxic. I don't mean licking it is going to kill someone or anything, but breathing in the fumes or dust is seriously bad and *can* hurt you. Ask the people who've done permanent damage to their lungs with resin dust how different it isn't to plaster or paint. :/ It's why some dolls actually do come with warnings and why it's a good idea to use a respirator when sanding. Plus, (and I know it's been said already) resin=plastic and a LOT of plastics release toxic fumes when they melt or catch fire, and putting dry resin in a microwave sounds like a fairly good way to do one or the other to it.
      For the record, putting it in an oven is also a very bad idea, unless, of course, you (general you) don't mind the idea of having to replace your oven.
       
    43. Um...you do know that twigling sculpts and casts her own dolls, right? I'd think she probably knows a hell of a lot about the toxicity of resin and if she says that microwave isn't safe for food use anymore and nuking it is a supremely bad idea for your health I'd take that as proof that the 'myth' you're talking about isn't likely to be busted any time soon.

      Just saying.
       
    44. DO NOT USE THAT MICROWAVE FOR FOOD AGAIN. Seriously. The fumes from the resin, for being in it so long, will probably still be in that microwave and be cooked into any food you put into it. It is a SEVERE health risk. Also, resin is a type of plastic. ANY plastic that's been microwaved ruins the microwave.

      I mean, if you just look at chemically sensitive people, just opening up a doll makes them ill from the fumes, let alone the chemical change that happens during a microwave, regardless if you can smell the fumes or not.
       
    45. I asked my brother, who actually makes resin casts and molds for a living. According to him, he would never ever use that microwave for food now, and really hopes that you were wearing a respirator at the time. Apparently he needs to wear a respirator mask and full protective gear for his job, because it's super harmful. Just... be really careful...
       
    46. The fact that resin is toxic is not a myth, its a fact. All kinds of dust is bad for you, even flour but I haven't talked specifically about dust in this thread. Heating resin will release fumes which are particles much smaller than dust.

      Resin is definitely different to plaster, and paints come in many varieties, none of which I would want to sniff or eat. Like I said above, once the components of polyurethane are mixed and cured, they are fairly inert, but applying high temperatures is obviously going to make something happen. Moving the molecules which is what the microwaves do to heat things up; it vibrates the H2O molecules which heats them. If there was nothing happening in the resin it wouldn't get hot. It's the heated food in the container when you microwave that heats the container, not the microwaves.

      Do whatever you want with your own health, but don't claim that you are doing these experiments in the name of research, unless you are following some sort of scientific protocol and process of recording your results. We all know that resin is nasty stuff and that yes heating most types of plastic is a bad idea. You're not supposed to put your doll in the microwave, so what is the purpose of your findings? Conclusions like "it doesn't smell bad", "I can't see any difference in the resin from before to after" or "went rubbery while hot" doesn't really delve deeply enough into the molecular structure where changes would actually be seen.

      If you just want to soften resin to bend it, putting it in freshly boiled water for a few seconds will make it soft enough to move it.. (depending on the thickness of the resin, of course), then hold it in place till it cools.

      I would LOVE to see a list of companies that use non-toxic resin, and also more links to this NT casting resin you speak of.
       
    47. One note as a sculptor and painter.... If you can smell it, your inhaling something. I used to think that I couldn't be inhaling that much I had fans on and the windows open. Then I bought a resperator to use... and I don't smell anything.. the reason is its all being caught in the filters..... so yes its possible that there is non toxic resin, however that has been tested under the guise of ingestion, in its original mixed state. once you begin heating it your activating chemical reactions. Liken it to this

      Lead paint... on a wall not toxic to live with.. unless you have prolonged contact. Poisonus if you eat the paint chips..... Now.... in theory... if your not ingesting it then you should be safe... but why chance it by licking the walls?
       
    48. As someone with a degree in toxicology I advise you to leave this as a one time experiment. I'm not the expert, but this has my bad exposure sense tingling. You had your curiosity satisfied and although reading about the results was interesting, you should stop exposing yourself to harmful components. There are safer alternatives for heating resin to mod it.

      I also agree with not using the microwave oven for food. Most likely the manual states that it should not be used for heating anything but food and for a good reason. I've used normal microwave ovens in laboratory environments, but anyone who thought of using one of those for heating up food would be slapped silly.
      I doubt you will die or get sick if you do use the microwave oven for food, but doing experiments with your food microwave oven is a bad habit.

      It's the dose that makes the poison and I second Twigling's story that regular dust exposure can make you chronically ill (even flour, poor bakers) and I cannot put enough emphasis on wearing proper protection when modding or face-upping. Wear the proper respiratory protection with the right filters (for dust particles or for volatile components depending on what you're doing) and not the thin kind of mask your dentist wears.
       
    49. Heheh the rain must be getting to you and trust me when I say Twigling IS an authority when it comes to the dos and do-nots with resin.... Not coz she's a mod but because she makes her own dolls....

      edited to add: Paint.... dont even get me started on how unsafe Carmine Red paint is ;)

      Now as far as your "Myth busting" goes... since your in Auckland, pop down to the Viaduct and go see my mates at the Alloy Yachts shipyard, ask to see the Manager he'll tell you everything you want to know about how dangerous these plastics can be when handled incorrectly and the MASSIVE insurance premiums they have to pay to ensure their fiberglassers and hull-moulders are kept in good helth when they are exposed to the fumes from Resin 6 days of the week 48 weeks of the year....

      Now MY opinion in case everyone else here hasnt got through, having done several courses at TAFE in casting, moulding, plastic etc... I can tell you with out a doubt, and in absolute and complete factuality Resin IS safe in its cured form, do anything to mess with that ie sanding or heating it in a microwave WILL alter is chemical inertia causing further reactions and will give off toxic gasses. Have a whiff of MEKP (catalyst of polyester resin) one day and tell me its not toxic yea ;)

      Not wanting to beat your head in or anything but there are young and impressionable minds scouring this forum every minute for information and its best to be cautious about making declarations that arent backed up with solid knowledge...

      Now go to Harvey Norman and buy a new microwave :)

      Oh and one more thing... A study at Harvard University discovered that microwaving plastic food containers containing the plastic product BPA (Bisphenol A) releases synthetic chemicals called xenoestrogens which then leaches into the products in the plastic containers and is a contributing cause in the reduction of male fertility and a rise in breast cancer... plastics + microwaves = BAD BAD... use glass instead *nods*
       
    50. You've already stated you've tried microwaving doll parts, stating in detail what a hurrendous smell it makes. It's too late to retract that, lol. Please take everyones advice and stick to tried and tested methods :eusa_naug.
       
    51. Microwaving resin is not safe in the least, I know it's been said many times before, but it needs to be said. And the resin is toxic, hence why you see many threads on the forum advising you not to sand with out a respirator, and not to microwave, or bake the resin as it releases the fumes. Also just because something is odorless does not mean that it will not hurt you, for example carbon monoxide. Please, listen to what everyone is saying, and do not keep doing this.
       
    52. Just to throw in on this, PTFE, trade name Teflon, is an inert, "safe" resin. Everyone knows this.

      Except that PTFE overheated HAS given off toxic ODORLESS fumes that has (documented) KILLED numerous pet birds.

      So just because something is "safe and inert" at room temperature, or even moderate cooking temps, it does not follow that it is still safe when heated past what was intended.
       
    53. Wow, yea i'd imagine doing that for any length of time would be dangerous.

      but it's interesting to hear that the resin would become maliable ...
       
    54. ^..Heating resin generally makes it malleable.
       
    55. You know, all the plasticware you eat off is 'non-toxic' but most also have warnings that they are not microwave safe and only some kinds are marked as safe to be microwaved. Hell polystyrene is safe to eat and drink out of but in no way shape or form is it safe in the microwave. In the same way, urethane resin in it's cured form is non-toxic, but if you put it under duress where it will let off fumes, it is not safe. Do not do this again. Or go ahead and do it, and enjoy the repercussions such repeated inane acts have on your long-term health.
       
    56. well resin and any kind of polyuretane polymer is dangerous and toxic. Dont experiment with it. Whenever we do research with stuff that has polymeric compounds, we NEVER heat it, worst still microwave it. There are health and safety rules in our labs... be careful please! :o
       
    57. First off, Never EVER suck on ANY of the body parts. If you want to touch the doll, make sure you're wearing gloves and a mask on your face. When playing with the doll, a full-body haz-mat suit and a breathing apparatus would suffice. If you're that paranoid about it, maybe BJD's aren't the right type of doll for you.
       

    58. Now, now, Clare, be nice. Oh, and Fuday, IS your new dolly going to look like the devil, have red eyes and be mean and scary looking?
       
    59. I just received my first bjd a dollmore Lusion and there was absolutely no dust at all anywhere. She was a LE and fully clothed and wigged. She has absolutely no smell at all. I have changed her clothes several times and switched her wigs and found not one drop of any dust. I paid to have her sanded and body blushed. Maybe that is the reason? You could not blush a doll with dust on it. I was very impressed with dollmore, very high quality.

      I for one am going to pay for sanding service, it's not worth it to me to risk it. I would like to do faceups however. I don't see why it would be hard to find safer alternatives to the faceup materials?? I used to do porcelain and I bought china paints and there were ones that were dangerous and ones that were safe to purchase. I know you can do faceups with pastels, which aren't dangerous. You just have to look for a safe sealant.
       
    60. I made the mistake of blowing into one of my MNM heads that had some resin shrapnel and I got resin in my eye. LOL What a stupid thing to do, anyhow my eye hurt for days even though I went right away and rinsed it out with water. I just think resin is bad to ingest all around. I did learn a valuable lesson. Use the air compressor while wearing goggles next time.
       
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