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Apr 6, 2008

    1. Since it seems I'm not the only one waiting and not getting any response. Please PM me with the status of my order.

      thank you
       
    2. accidental_subjects ~ Could you please leave more details regarding the date/transaction/money exchanged?
       
    3. I purchased an Abio Angel BW Yi from her back on January 1, 2008 through paypal for the price she quoted, $291.82 US, $409.00 SG. I was then asked to pay an additional $10 US the next day.

      I was told the doll would be ready to ship out a day or two after 2/14. I did not hear from her. I then tried contacting her at the beginning of March and received a message on 3/7 that A/A was being really slow and that they would be sent out once they reached the dealer. I replied that I would be out of the country so if she could hold the doll till the beginning of April. She replied on 3/9 to let her know when I was back.

      I pm'd her at the beginning of this week, and have not heard back from her. Today I checked the group order thread: http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185230&page=4
      and saw that she has not been responding to PMs or other forms of contact since some time in March. It appears she finally responded to one person from the Singapore board a few days ago after repeated texted messages, but has not responed to anyone else. I have seen she has updated her shopping Live Journal at the end of March and just today.

      So there are a few people who have tried to get ahold of her, and are out money at this point.
       
    4. Thank you. This member has not been on the board since 26MAR08. She is in the "Being Paged" group, please keep this thread updated as to resolution....and you might consider filing a claim?
       
    5. I'd also like to add to this.

      On February 15 I received an invoice of 250 SGD for an AA boy body; on the 16th I paid in full and received my receipt. I was told that the dolls would be shipped out the following week, as they already had my splitter's choice in stock.

      On the 19th of February she e-mailed me and said that it turned out that particular doll had just been sold and was therefore out of stock. She claimed that the new shipment of dolls would arrive that week, and that the dealer would ship him the day that she received the order. And I was perfectly fine with that- these things happen, right?

      So I waited a few weeks before PMing her about the status and whether or not the doll had been shipped; if so, when? She replied stating that there was a problem with the S-hooks and they were currently awaiting a new shipment from AA on the S-hooks. Now it's around mid-march.

      It was around this time that I accidently stumbled upon the SGCafe post (http://sgcafe.com/showthread.php?p=3603138)- and thank goodness I did! It had much more information and updates. As it turned out, the S-hooks had already arrived around mid-march; now the dealer was waiting on the official AA boxes!

      On the SGCafe board, it turns out that she decided to have the dolls shipped without the official boxes; I don't know if this is the same for international buyers. Also, she had them shipped through the regular carrier system- not the EMS that she had so clearly labeled in the first post of her threads.

      I PMed her a few days ago and am now waiting on/hoping for a reply. The rest is about the same to what accidental_subjects said. The SGCafe members are supposedly going to have a meetup next Friday to receive their dolls, so I'm assuming that they will finally be arriving sometime next week or so. We'll just have to wait and see if there will be another delay or not, I suppose.
       

    6. I'm long past the 45 days allowed by paypal, and I think a few other people are also. That is what makes this not a good thing. Especially since this person appears to be actively selling more things elsewhere.
       
    7. I'm also waiting for a response from mmsedated :(.

      Dec.27, 2007-I paid a $113US deposit to preorder one of the new molds (to be decided in the future).

      February 2008-Several molds have been posted at this time, so I ask mmsedated if all of the new molds have been revealed yet-she says no.

      March 15, 2008-Still no new molds have been revealed since February, so I decide to go ahead and place my order.

      March 16, 2008-Mmsedated replies, and quotes me prices higher than were previously agreed upon-she then agrees to honour the old price after some discussion.

      I then formally place my order, asking her to get back to me with the correct total.

      March 26, 2008-I'm sure I messaged her again, but I can't find the message archived anywhere, so she might not have gotten that one :doh. In that message I asked her to confirm the total for me, just as I did in my message on the 16th.

      April 5, 2008-I message mmsedated asking for a refund, as she never confirmed my order after many attempts on my part.

      Due to this experience, I am no longer interested in ordering the doll-I just want a refund :sweat.
       
    8. I was wondering if anyone knows how to get ahold of the company that makes the dolls? I think we need to contact them about this.
       
    9. Thank you. I sent them an e-mail and if I remember right they are from Canada. If anyone knows the person who runs that site, if they can help with this mess, it would be extremely helpful.
       
    10. Divinity doll is just a dealer-I bought my first abio angel from them :sweat. The girl who runs it is on this board (Amy the yu).

      Abio angels are made by Leroi (formally of Mythdoll)-I guess Divinity doll might be able to get in contact with the company, but it seems like a lot of unnecessary trouble for them, especially since they're not involved at all :sweat.

      The official Abio angel website is here-they do list an e-mail address, but I think you have to communicate with them in Chinese?
       
    11. I found that out also. Divinity Doll is just a dealer and not affliated with mmsedated or others who also claim to buy from Abio Angel. So that is a dead end.

      Hoping mmsedated will get this cleared up and soon. Too much bad karma going on.
       
    12. Here is my information:

      12-30-07: Order placed. Was told Shi was instock and would ship as soon as I paid.
      01-10-08: Order paid in full, 374SGD. She was nice enough to wait for my payment. Shipping was higher than posted, honest mistake.
      01-11-08: Chose eye color. Told she would ship that day.
      01-13-08: Shi wasn't instock. Supplier ordered another one, supposed to come in a week.
      01-14-08: Change shipping address.
      02-08-08: Asked about my order, still not shipped, company is on holiday.
      02-25-08: Told Shi arrived at dealer and would be shipped once I confirmed eye color. Changed shipping address again.
      03-16-08: Pm'd about order. Shi is instock again.Told she will be shipped either that day or the next.

      I pm'd her again recently but with no reply. Personally, I think she's overwhelmed herself with several different group orders and is trying to dig herself out of a hole. I'm sure as an international buyer I am put on the back burner, which is totally fine with me, but I would like some communication is all to have reassurance that my doll order is in the works.
       
    13. I've left her a livejournal comment (screened) informing her that she's being paged, and asking her to please log on to DOA and sort things out :sweat.

      She's used that account as recently as yesterday, so I really doubt that she won't see it.
       
    14. I'm also involved with this transaction, but my order was executed differently by means of direct bank transfer.

      I would like to add that one of the participants on the SGCafe side, yukiharu_ai, has attempted to contact mmsedated but was hung up on.
       
    15. Wow, and she's currently taking orders for a lingerie spree :roll:.

      Do you suppose reporting her to that community would do anything?
       
    16. The link to the thread on the SGCafe isn't working right now. Have the people there discussed what they are going to do if she doesn't show-up with the dolls on Friday as she promised?

      And thanks for your help with this. It's good to know what is going on. Obviously at this point she is aware of all the people wanting to know what is up and is refusing to respond. This is not a good sign.

      Just wanted to add to my prior post that I did file a Paypal Dispute, knowing they won't escalate it to a claim because of the time frame, but at least it is another way of attempting to contact mmsedated.
       
    17. Not to sound clueless, but how do you do that when the transaction is past the deadline :sweat?

      Mine always asks for a transaction number, and it won't recognize any that are over 45 days old *_*. After that, I can't proceed.
       
    18. Er, nevermind, I figured it out :sweat.

      For some reason it won't recognize the idea if I copy and paste it, but it does if I browse it in *_*.
       
    19. Just to add to this, I checked out her Spree feedback posts on two live journal communities, and seems she has also is ignoring people there. One she did comment to on 4/2/08 claiming she was sorry, she had a lot of e-mails to clear.

      I am hoping she is no longer allowed to sell here on DoA. Obviously there are major problems with this seller. I've sent e-mails both from my e-mail account and DoA and still no response.
       
    20. Well, since she asked the participants there to keep their bank transfer receipts, I will probably collate all that information, and file it with the police as a breach of trust and possible fraud.

      She probably has more than a thousand dollars' worth of funds with her right now. Hopefully that's enough money to make the police take it seriously, and that's not counting the international side.
       
    21. Have received a mass update from her via e-mail.
       
    22. lovehaze: Would it be alright for you to post the contents here? I haven't gotten anything. :/
       
    23. I got one too. :3 I'll post it. Hope it's okay!

      "Hi all, I sincerely apologise for the lack of updates. But just to reassure all of you, I'm not intending to run away!

      Abio Angel was having a delay at first in the production of the dolls, then another delay in the problem w the S hooks, then finally another one w the official boxes. It has given the dealer and myself a big headache. I've been chasing the dealer everyday, the same she has been doing to Abio Angel. >< All this smacked between my own personal crisis.

      For those who have ordered dolls without faceups, they're already at the dealer's place. However, the official boxes have not arrived. Abio Angel promised to have the boxes delivered 2 weeks ago but the dealer has yet to receive them. You can choose to have them shipped to you without the official box. The doll will still be properly packaged. You can also choose to have them shipped to you with the official box, but I don't know when it'll arrive. x_x

      For those who ordered the dolls with faceups, the faceups will be done and the dolls will arrive at the dealer's by this week. Abio Angel promised to have the boxes delivered 2 weeks ago but the dealer has yet to receive them. You can choose to have them shipped to you without the official box. The doll will still be properly packaged. You can also choose to have them shipped to you with the official box, but I don't know when it'll arrive.

      Do let me know your decision.

      I'm really stressed up right now and I know that I've been paged and everything. I know I should have still been updating you all admidst the delays but it's really... easier said than done. The timing is bad and I hope to be able to conduct more group orders. I'll learn from this issue and will definitely improve.

      As a form of apology, I'll be giving each doll a pair of boots for the guys, and shoes for the girls! I still love all of them and I hope all of you will be not that mad at me. T_T

      I'll be keeping in touch via email. You're not going to lose me again!"
       
    24. Thank you very much Citrus! <3
       
    25. I received the e-mail also, but since I received e-mails in the past saying the doll would be sent out at a specific time and it wasn't, I would like to leave this paging thread up till people actually have their dolls.
       
    26. I've told her I want a refund, so now I'm just waiting for her response.
       
    27. The Singaporean participants got their dolls today. Sedated told me all but one had arrived, and lo and behold, it was mine. -__-; What the HELL is this.
       
    28. Sorry to hear that, sounds like things for a few didn't go too well.
      I still have not heard back from her since that one group e-mail. Would have thought she would do better knowing she was meeting people face to face.

      I guess it's we'll see what happens again.
       
    29. That's terrible :(. At least some others have gotten their dolls, so I guess that's kind of a relief.

      I haven't heard a reply from her yet either.
       
    30. I haven't received a response either, on DoA or by email. I requested no box. :\

      I'm curious what this bodes since I only bought the body and my splitter is in SG. Hopefully they got their head okay? I'm glad to hear that some people received their dolls okay. But that really is awful, Schizo. She should have at least told you specifically beforehand, instead of waiting so long to even let you know. :(
       
    31. Citrus>> Was your splitter wanting a Shi-wu? If so, the head arrived in a ziplock bag with a smudged faceup. It was however packed well in bubblewrap.

      Sedated only realized my Shi-san was missing AFTER she opened the box. Good Lord, he was the ONLY one in the batch...how could they miss him? :(
       
    32. I don't even know what head my splitter wanted, to be honest! u____u; It may have been, though.

      Man, so still some shaky practices all around! This really is awful. Did she offer a free redo of the faceup or anything at all in compensation? Hopefully there was nobody else who got a doll in poor condition or didn't get theirs at all. :(
       
    33. Still nothing further here. I've never been so frustrated or wasted so much time and energy as I have recently in this hobby. This with other things makes me so not want to ever buy from anyone ever again.
       
    34. I think as far as getting the dolls are concerned, I'm the only one who hasn't received mine at all. :cry:
       
    35. Just wanna add on:


      Apparently her doll arrived with a broken knee.
       
    36. I'm really surprised this is happening - I participated in this same group order, payed December 31st, and my doll arrived January 12th. I was blown away with how fast my order was processed, so I'm really surprised that some of the dolls didn't get to their buyers.
       
    37. &quot;unhealthy obsession&quot;




      Join Date: Jun 2005
      Posts: 583 Still nothing but she has been on DoA since the paging post was done, she's revised her profile here and took her LJ off of it.

      This is bs. Damaged dolls, not contacting buyers except for a mass e-mail, only getting some dolls to the people in the same country as her, most likely because they have the most access to doing something about this.

      Obviously she has reasons for not being honest with people. Thanks a lot mmsedated. I hope you enjoyed my money.

      It's obvious she is not going to contact people through DoA and is taking steps to cover up that she has been on DoA and where she can be contacted.

      I hope the mods have taken the steps to make sure she can't sell on here any more.
       
    38. I sent her two PMs before the paging post was done, and if she's been online since then, she still hasn't replied. :( At this point I just want the body here so I can sell it. I've changed my plans, and I'd really like that money.
       
    39. I'm on the brink of lodging a police report against her; if you guys think I should I will. If I do, I would like your transaction information as well. The police will sit up and take more notice if international fraud is involved.
       
    40. I sent an e-mail to her yesterday. If she doesn't get back to me in a day or two, I will give you my information. I'm tired of this, a good seller does not make promises, then fail to reply to e-mails and pms. Once or twice I can understand, problems from the company I can understand (heck, can you say Bermann?) but this has been on-going and there are no excuses for a person who has been on-line over the period of time and only sent out one mass e-mail and then has disappeared again.
       
    41. Agreed. I sent her a second e-mail a day or two ago, so if I don't hear from her soon, I'll send my information as well.
       
    42. I've decided I don't want my doll anymore as well, and I just want my refund.

      This just messes up all my plans royally; I'd even gone and gotten his eyes, clothes and wig. :( Ugh.
       
    43. Okay, an update.

      Now Sedated tells me my doll's at the dealer's place already, so me getting my refund is out of the question. -_- She doesn't want to reply to queries about the dolls intended for the international participants, though...when I meet up with her I'm going to ask her to her face.
       
    44. Thanks for speaking on our behalf :). It's too bad you're not getting a refund, but at least you won't be walking away empty handed, I suppose :sweat.
       
    45. Would it be too late to file a Paypal dispute, even though it wont escalate into a claim at this point?

      I have been delaying it, trying to give Sedated the benefit of the doubt, but my e-mails and PMs have gone answered and I really want my damn money back, or at least the body so I can sell it. Especially with how it seems that she *waited* until the dolls arrived to tell Schizo that a refund was not possible. That is just completely dishonest and disgusting.
       
    46. gee, I wonder why she doesn't want to respond to us.

      I guess this means we have been ripped-off?

      I mean, if the deal is the dolls are at the dealer, or the company is late in getting them out, or whatever, why not respond?

      I think banning is in order at this point. She has everyone's e-mails, and I think everyone has her's so having access to DoA isn't needed for her. If there is a mod out there, please ban this person. It's obvious she ripped off the international people.
       
    47. There is nothing paypal can or will do. I want my money back also, at least the courtesy of this person to actually have the guts to contact me personally to explain what her damn problem is. But obviously not going to get anything including the doll I paid her money for.

      You can file a dispute but Paypal is totally worthless.
       
    48. Yeah, I've already done it a week or two ago, but nothing happened. She didn't even respond to that one :sweat.

      I just worry that if she's banned, then that'll just give her more motivation to pocket the money and run?
       
    49. She refuses to respond to any PMs here. She refuses to respond to any of the threads regarding this matter. She refuses to discuss this matter with someone involved (SchizoCheese). She refuses to respond to e-mails. Previously she hung-up on someone in Singapore who was trying to find out when and where they were meeting to get their dolls.

      If she had any desire to operate in a decent manner, she has had plenty of chances to do so. It's been over four months that I have been out the money. I would have to assume by this time that whether or not she is banned from here she has no desire to actually send anything or do any refunds. I only asked for the ban to keep other people from getting ripped off.

      I was out of the country and away from internet acess for two weeks and I still kept in touch with people. I have gone through all kinds of stuff but I never treated anyone I sold things to in the manner this person has. There is no excuse for any of this and not banning her obviously has not provided the response that people want, which is either the dolls or our money back.

      Fine, so they don't ban her and she ends up taking more people's money.
       
    50. Just to update, the dispute I filed through Paypal was closed by them

      "This dispute closed because it was opened for more than 45 days after the transaction date or did not meet other filing criteria."

      Thanks Samantha for failing to be a good seller. You need to either get these dolls sent out or refund the money asap. This is a very ugly thing you have done and there are no excuses.
       
    51. Perhaps it's time to get the police involved?
       
    52. Local police won't do anything. The woman lives in Singapore. It's a bit of a distance for me, I live in Calif. My experience with dealing with internet crime is the police want the person filing the report to show-up in person. Unless someone has a contact to the police in Singapore that is willing to take things by e-mail?

      It's why she has no problem doing this to the people who aren't in Singapore.
       
    53. I don't mind filing a report on behalf of you all, but I would need information and screenshots if possible.

      However I would request you guys to wait until she calls me to collect my doll, then I can confront her face to face.

      If that fails, police it is.
       
    54. Thank you SchizoCheese! I think it would be much worse without your help.
       
    55. Aah, I see. I've had nothing to do with the police at this point in my life (good thing :P), so maybe I'm just getting a bit carried away. :sweat Thanks for clearing that up!

      And thanks a ton, Schizo! I don't think we'd be getting anywhere at all if you weren't here. :D
       
    56. The member mmsedated has been Banned from Den of Angels. The moderation team urges those affected by this person to band together and consider all options, including legal action. Please do not hesitate to contact a moderator or administrator if you have questions or concerns regarding this issue, remembering that we are limited in what we can do and say. Good luck!
       
    57. I'm from Singapore. I ordered from her sometime early may and got mine a week ago without the official box, in a flimsy torn and intensively taped cardboard box. We have a missing doll here and no news of when its arriving.

      Shes apparently having problems with her supplier plus having her own personal problems.
       
    58. I've spoken to my mother, who will get in touch with a lawyer to see what can be done. At the very least, we can try to get you guys back your money.