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Unresolved Paging celyne22 (scammer) - MEMBER BANNED

Nov 15, 2006

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      Please conatct me reagrding the Luts Delf EL boy doll I purchsed. I haven't gotten any e-mails from you or PM in 8 days.

      DragonDavy1
      Charlie
       
    2. Please contact me too:((

      Sincerely
      Ewa
       
    3. Same here, although if others are having problems, maybe I'll just go ahead and finish filing my paypal claim.
       
    4. This is not good. I sent a lot of cash to her and still nothing. I am going to have to go e-mail Paypal my self.:(
       
    5. I just checked her feedback thread, she has all seller feedback, not anything from buyers. She doesn't seem to have any recent posts either.
      I hope you guys get your dolls, or your money back soon!
       
    6. i hope i'm get my faceplate soon:(
       
    7. I just open a "Item Not Received Dispute". I don't even want the doll now, I just want the 600+ I sent her.:(

      This is not the way to do things.

      i WANT MY MONEY BACK..
       
    8. is she recieveing the PMs Ok ?
      DOA pmS have been crazy for me this week
      I just wondered if they were acting up for her too ?
      she bought a body and wigs from me , the transaction went through fine
      ??


      hope it works out OK for you all
       
    9. I sent her a few e-mail to the only one e-mail I got from her. I also sent a few PM's.
      Its nice to write back if someone bought something from her.

      DD
       
    10. I've sent her numerous PMs, and Emails. Let's face it...she's not responding. The second she recieved my last payment for the body I bought from her, the PMs stopped.
       
    11. This was going to be my first doll and now I don't know if I'll get one.

      All I want is my cash.
       
    12. Did all of you pay with paypal? If so open a dispute immediately! I cannot stress this enough. This is not a tiny amount of money that you all spend. If nothing else this will at least get a response since paypal freezes the account right away. And don't let your seller put you off saying it will come in a day or two. If they say they just shipped it wait a decent amount of time to receive it. DO NOTclose any paypal dispute until it is to your satisfaction, NEVER just take your sellers word when they are very sketchy with their pm's. (ie. either you have your item or your money is refunded.) You can always repay the person the amount if your receive your goods after things are settled in your favor.

      I had this happen and I got my money back because of their buyer protection. Another time it was amazing how fast my item was shipped after I filed the claim. (I buy a lot on Ebay)

      I hope this helps.
       
    13. Yes I did pay with Paypal and I did open a dispute. Now I have to wait 20 days and then the next step.
      This really bites.:(
      I'm out for a lot of money.
       
    14. Yes, but with patience you will prevail. There are some very good sellers here on the forums that are extremely reliable, it is terrible that you had to have the problem with your very first doll. I am crossing my fingers that this will be resolved quickly.
       
    15. Thank you saranilla
      With 615 bucks out there, I don't know what to do but wait.
       
    16. celyne22 is a friend of mine.

      She phone me yesterday and she was totally panicked because of what happens to her.

      She has never had any El or other doll you have bought.

      Someone stole all her accounts (DoA, paypal...Everything). She has lost everything.

      She is very panicked because she doesn't speak english very well (mine isn't better but I can't let her in her actual situation).

      She makes all is possible to regulate that as fast as possible. But she can't do anything for you or refound your money because she has never seen it.

      I hope that everybody will be refund by paypal as quickly as possible.

      She can't even connect here on DoA...
       
    17. I just open a "Item Not Received Dispute" too...I hope i'm get my faceplate soon;(
       
    18. Is anyone can tell me where you send the money (the mail adress)? I want to know if it is her account or not.

      I hope you will be refund aya22!
       
    19. The thing that I don't understand is that when I look in the profile of Celyne22 to see the selling threads there is nothing for an El or a lusis faceplate... Have this messages been erased? Strange affair...
       
    20. i post 11days ago that I search for Unoa Lusis faceplate and she has written to me
       
    21. I see... this person is very clever that's for sure...
       
    22. First of all, I place a Want to Buy a boy EL in the sell part of the forum. She got back to me telling me she had one and she said she wanted to sell him because she loved dollstown and wanted to get one.
      She sent me pictures and everything. She even sent me one e-mail before I sent payment.
      I paid by Paypal so I hope I get my money back. This has never happen to me and I come to this forum and this happens.:(

      I am calling Paypal today and letting them know what happen. I sent this person my address and phone number.
      She has a EL doll and I have her PMs from before I sent cash.

      All I want is my money back she can keep the doll, this matter has to be fix.
      Let her know that she should do something to help us, because there are a lot of people that sent her money that are very mad.

      DD
       
    23. I am also in a middle of paypal dispute, and paypal is like still investigating. they did not tell me how long it will b after escalating to a claim.
      I'm also having almost the same prob with you guys.
      Good luck in everything and a bump.
      Funny why cant she connect to DOA? she can request for a change of password if she cant get in, and change it immediately. This is serious matter as she could get into trouble, like what happened right now. did she try to contact one of the mods?
      How can they have her DOA and paypal account at the same time? How did she lose it? Just curious.
       
    24. well, lets see what the Ip says... Yes mods have been warned of the problem.
       
    25. Well, I called Paypal and they said to e-mail this person ask them for a re-fund. If they don't re-fund, Paypal will take care of them and I'll get my money back from Paypal.

      This is bad, that someone can do something like this. DOA's name get messed up when people do things like this, because now I will not buy a doll unles I pick it up.
      Esthy&Lulla, if she doesn't know anything why don't she use another user name so she can clear her name?? I don't buy it, sorry.

      Tell her all I want is my money, and I'm sure the others want what they paid for also.

      Now for me to wait for Paypal.
       
    26. Paypal account on which We have paid money has been delete....So, I am very sad this fact. How can it happen??;( I can't believe to it ;(((
       
    27. There are many ways one can "lose" one's accounts. The first that comes to mind is "keyloggers" that sometimes come with programs downloaded from non-official sources, and which, basically, capture whathever you type and send it to the person who made the keylogger. That person then has access to anything you logged on while you had the keylogger.

      Of course, most of the time, such "hacking" come from trusted friends... who are not so trustful, after all (believe me, I've heard about LOTS of such situations...).

      Anyway, just giving some information, I won't take part in the discussion since I know neither side :sweat
       
    28. She told me that she has been warned of this problem only yesterday. She alos told me that she has created a new account and that she is waiting for confirmation, but she is not at home for now.

      I've only posted here to say what she told me. If you don't beleive it it's your right. I think that the mods and Paypal will do their job.

      I was just posting because her english is really awfull... more than mine. That's all. So don't take me into this affair, I have nothing to do with it. Thank you.
       
    29. Well, I understand you don't know me and I don't know you but I have PMs and a e-mail and I also have my paypal invoice that I sent this person a payment.
      I been to a lot of forums and this has never happen to me. I have sent 1000's of dollars through paypal with this never happening.

      Some people are also saying that the Paypal account on which We have sent payment to has been delete.
      Don't that say something that some of us got scam??
      I know I'm new to the board but I am no way a scamer and some people talked to me on the phone.

      All I know is that I want my money.
      I told Paypal about this site and they will check it out also.
       
    30. This is one of the PM's she sent me.

       
    31. Hopefully the mods will be able to clear this up. I believe vBulletin allows them to trace an ID's IPs, so they'll be able to compare Celyne22's older posting IP to the latest used to send her PMs to you guys, and see if it's the same "Celyne22" or not.
       
    32. I hope the MODs will do something to help there board members. I called my bank and I have to go down and sign some paper work.
      I am so mad right now.:(
      So the pics this person sent me was someone elses pictures.
       
    33. Is it this faceplate?

      [​IMG]

      This one is mine, and I don't have sell her. Someone on Doa PM me about her and want to know if I've sell her ton someone else in France, or if I use another username. I told her that I didn't sell her, and this was a scam.
       
    34. I did everything from research feedback to ask a few people on the board about her.:(
       
    35. I support also celyne which is not a liar and not a robber, I never had any concern with it, the poor one is completely disabled , we thank esthy & lulla to try to solve the mystery and we understand also the members of doa who were victims of the false celyne22
       
    36. no, this is not this faceplate

      but this mail from celyne22
      '
      hello
      i have this one for sale
      [​IMG]

      she's in very good condition
      if you want more pics, tell me
      have a nice day
      celyne'


      i'm so sad because this doll is this member
      http://www.denofangels.com/forums/member.php?u=10284

      i want my money back;(((
       
    37. yes that's aeris lusis...
       
    38. In this instance, the emphasis should not be on how credible the supposed seller is, becuase we KNOW she is not the actual seller.

      It would be better to concentrate on finding the person responsible, and getting refunds for the people who need them.

      To those of you who know the real celyne22: Tell her to call the police, and also her ISP. This person is commiting fraud, and she needs to have them stopped quickly. Her ISP should be willing to help track anyone who has accessed her accounts, and could help provide evidence for a conviction.
       
    39. This situation is just horrible. The DoA Moderation team is very concerned about these events and we have banned Celyne22 from the forum.

      We'd encourage all buyers to immediately file a Paypal claim and attempt to reclaim their money.

      However, as badly as we feel for the buyers, as you all know, because of legal reasons we do not get involved in Marketplace disputes.

      There are several threads in the Marketplace concerning what buyers can do to protect themselves. If you've not already done so, please read these threads and approach all deals with caution if you're not familiar with either the buyer or seller.

      Again, we feel horrible about these events and we hope that all buyers will receive their refunds. We have done all that we can do by banning Celyne22 and it is up to Paypal to prove or disprove any claims of account hijacking.

      Please know that this individual has been banned though and that PMing them through the forum will not work as a form of contact.

      :( :( :(
       
    40. I've post pics of my Winking lusis for people who receive mail about him, because the scammer tried to sell her, i hope nobody "bought" her from him...
       
    41. She already done it, hope all this problem will end good for every body (celyne and all the "buyer")
       
    42. Those of you having trouble: Did you pay via credit card? I ALWAYS pay via credit card because if paypal can't get my money back (which they frequently can't, because paypal will only recover your money if the seller has money actually in their *paypal* account) you can open an investigation with your credit card company. It's called a 'chargeback' and I've had to use it twice in about six years on ebay due to scammers.

      WARNING: Paypal REALLY doesn't like it when you do a chargeback because then they're out the money instead of you, and they'll send you nasty "You should have let us handle it" notes, but I'd say getting a nasty note from paypal is worth 600+ dollars.
       
    43. I just got back from my bank and filed some paper work on this matter.
      I took every step I can to do this right. I contact Paypal and my Bank and filed a claim to get my money back.
      All I can do now is wait till I hear from Paypal and my bank. I paid most with my bank card money and the rest came out of paypal. Thats why I figured I file with my bank just in case paypal only gives me there part. I have been a member with paypal for a long time and I have sold and bought from e-bay all over the world with this never happening to me.
      Its sad and I hope they get this person and give him/her whats coming to them, this is a crime and they are hurting a lot of people.

      Its a shame.:(
      I hope if DOA gets contact by Paypal they can let them know that this did happen to a few people.
       
    44. Hi DoA Mod Squad

      Can you please PM me?? I can't seem to send you a PM.:(

      Thanks
      DD
       
    45. One annoying thing i encountered many times when i email paypal about my dispute problem is, "we're sorry we cant reply due to increase of volume, pls call this number". right now the dispute still stuck in investigating mode :/ i'm like on the other side of the world and they cant make the situation better. i hope the imposter can be caught, though i feel this is slim. remember guys, be more careful with your pws and invest in com security as we all buy online a lot. the good thing about my sis's cc is that it studies the spending pattern or something. if it gets charged on something she wouldnt normally buy, or that its way out of her location or at amount she wouldnt normally spent on, theyd call her.
       
    46. Just as a thought to pass on to the police- this is a skilled scammer, who has done research and know the value of these dolls and has gone out of their way to go unnoticed, by not posting stolen pictures in the public forums, but only via PM.
       
    47. I got on the phone and talked to someone at paypal so they are investigating. I didthe e-mail thing but said for get that I'll call. So now they are on it and will get back in 10 days. For my bank I went to the bank and signed some paper work so I can try to get my money back.
      Paypal should help anyone if they got robbed some money with there system, doesn't matter where your from. This person who took our money had to do a transfer from Paypal to there account, they must have it on file.

      I hope they take care of this in a fast matter.
       
    48. Hoo my goood ! this Pics taken by me and uploade to my server? I'm feeling sad now.... and I'm very horrify by this. William is El's Aideen member sure.
      Ho sorry for all members and I hope you for refund.
       
    49. Hi DD - I sent you a PM - the Mod Squad can't take PM's (as you've just learned. ^^;;; )
       
    50. Thanks MOD
      I am learning.;)
      I sent you back a message.

      Will keep the same name but add scammer just in case someone needs to know the name the scammer was using.
       
    51. Hi,

      I just saw that the scammer used the pictures of my white skin EL! William is not for sale and never will be!
      Like others said, celyne22's account has been hacked. I don't think she's responsible.

      Obsiously the scammer is someone who knows the french BJD collectioners as I post there too!

      I hope you'll get your money back!
       
    52. When you are victim of a scammer, you can always fil a complaint here:

      http://www.ic3.gov/
       
    53. Yep, william was the pic's this person sent me of.:(
      I hope I get my money back. Thats all I want right now, I'm not even thinking of getting another doll now, not after this.

      I keep reading the PM's this person sent me and I am gettin more and more pissed off.

      They have to get this person.
       
    54. Thanks, everyone, for keeping this thread informational, and for helping to get the word out to victims who may not yet be aware they've been victimized.

      We've moved this thread to the Feedback Forum and we've just made it a sticky, so people won't have to bump.
       
    55. Thank you Janne.
      I'll keep in touch with you and let you know what happens.
       
    56. I've gone and removed posts from the thread that do not contain any helpful content so people can find the facts of this matter more easily. Though we understand that this is a very upsetting situation, please only post to this thread if you have new information to share that may be of help to getting this issue resolved. Thank you for understanding- We are still investigating IPs and have contacted the French forum to help us in this investigation.

      In the meantime, we do strongly encourage all members who have bought from her to contact their banks and local law enforcement authorities, and appeal to Paypal for refunds as soon as you can.
       
    57. For those who this happen to make sure you call Paypal and don't use there e-mails because your case will take longer.

      Keep in touch..
       
    58. OK I have to join this thread. I am very sad to say I have been ripped off too!
      I prayed this would never happen again as I had this happen in the past and it still leaves a bitter taste. This is the face I was buying strangly I wanted it blank and was sad the makeup had to be removed but the price seemed right. She said she painted it herself, I contacted her about 6 days ago as I hadn't heard from her she said she had just had a baby and couldn't make it to mail it. However said she would give me tracking on monday. I never got the tracking.

      The makeup reminded me of evenstars and I mentioned that to her. However not sure who's this pretty girls is. How sad. I have also filed but I heard that if there is no money in their account you dont' get a refund is this right? I hope not. Should I phone too? wonder if that would help at all I doubt it.

      hello
      i have a faceplate for sale. it's 1.5, good condition, with make up. i can remove it.
      i'm asking 160$+ shipping+paypal fees.
      tell me if it's ok for you.
      have a nice day
      celyne

      a pics :
      [​IMG]