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Aug 3, 2014

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    1. I have been working on changing my style and I would love some input. Making faces is really hard for me - my perception adjusts very quickly and I find my work very hard to judge. I thought the faces I have made were fairly realistic, but now I have been trying to use real people as references and after spending a couple days on a new face, my old faces now don't look realistic to me at all - rather anime-ish actually. I have no idea if I can trust my eyes!

      This is the new face vs. Oriana. I actually thought she looked a lot like Oriana as I was modeling her, before I compared them. Oriana is the one that looks weird to me now, but maybe I am just used to the new face and she is the one that looks weird. (New face's head is scaled up to better compare.. not sure if I was to keep it scaled up, the other images aren't scaled.)
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      Edit: Here is the new face, blended 50/50, and Oriana (bigger ones in the imgur album):
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      Here is my favorite render - there are a bunch more on imgur http://imgur.com/a/jFHUA:

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      I'd love some critique on this face, as well as opinions on if I should stick with this style, or do something somewhere in between. Thanks!!!
       
      #1 firefly5003, Aug 3, 2014
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    2. Well, I definitely like the style of the new face more, personally, but I also tend to like more realistic faces. I'd like to see them both in a clay/non-skin/no-hair render as it's easier to judge the sculpt for dollie purposes as my brain keeps seeing your pics as Poser models. I think the old style may be more sellable though - doll people do tend to prefer a bit more big eyes/tiny nose stylized, going so far as actual anime-type Volks-esque faces.

      But I think your new sculpt has a lot more soul - the old one, she seems very... "blank" in the eyes somehow, in comparison? Like she's looking through you, rather than at you. The new one really seems a lot more realistic and like she's more engaged somehow with the viewer. Doesn't have the thousand-yard stare to her. I think both are good sculpts though, and if you're going to be selling multiple heads, having some variation in style to appeal to different types of doll collectors is good.
       
      #2 HystericalParoxysm, Aug 3, 2014
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    3. Thanks so much for the input. Yeah, maybe I will do two different head lines. I've made so many faces that I'd hate to not use some of them.
      I rendered gray versions (sorry it is a bit washed out, lighting in 3ds confuses me so much, I can only make reflective things look good..), and I also have screenshots. The new face's eye area needs work, I messed up the geometry a bit. Seeing the old one in 3ds again seems a bit better than the renders at least.

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      I'm a bit too lazy to crop the screenshots right now so I am just going to link them.
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      #3 firefly5003, Aug 3, 2014
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    4. Aww, yeah, I like them both a lot. I think the newer one is going to have a lot more character - even things like her lips and eyes are more defined. The older one I think will be more versatile - can change her face more with shading. Personally I prefer the newer one but I think both would be appealing to collectors for different reasons.

      Only thing I can see that I might change is the chin on the newer one seems very much like the chin on the older - perhaps just with a bit more mass. Not really a problem exactly, but I think the more defined face would look nicer with a slightly more squared or shorter chin, just to differentiate the two sculpts a little more.
       
      #4 HystericalParoxysm, Aug 4, 2014
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    5. I like the more realistic head but love the nose on the old one
      it depends what you want the focus of the doll to be as it is often hard to say what's going to work or not, and unfortunately exaggerated features are what seem to work best on small things.
      and I agree with hystericalparoxysm, the chins seems to need some more definition, perhaps bring it out a little so that it gives her a more stronger character :)
      but damn those lips are beautiful on both versions <3
       
      #5 myscribbles, Aug 27, 2014
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    6. I prefer the original in the grey renders. She seems more "workable" as a doll. The newer one is more realistic, but I'm not sure how well realistically proportioned eyes can "show up" on something small like a BJD.
       
      #6 Allie, Nov 23, 2015
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