MSD Satyr/deer? wip (updated 08-10-26 see p.5)

updated 08-10-26 see p.5

i'm alive O_O!


teaser pic:






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update August 27

plese see page 4!!!!

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Updated August 15th go to page four for details
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3578514&postcount=65


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updated August 11

some important discussion
see page 3 post 56
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3559845&postcount=56



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updated August 8 see p.3

i'm still looking for head critiquing (post on page 2)
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3549048&postcount=42


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update August 5th

see page 2 for head critiquing! i really need yopur healp >_<
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3540108&postcount=25

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Updating the same day? Oh dear...

I did quite a bit of work on it today

I did the hands:


here are the legs I changed the proportions a bit (I think it looks better)
(sorry for the blurry photo @_@)
now to do the details and jointing >_<

an important question:

I want to make optional horns (4 different kinds) if I cast each head with the sculpted on horns, that means I’d have to make 5 casts per head! So I’m looking for an alternative, magnets aren’t really an option, since I can’t order them on line
All I came up with is casting them separately and super gluing them on <_<;


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if all goes according to plan i will be casting this!

I worked on this for 3-4 days for now, it will be approximately 43 cm tall with 8 mm eyes

Here is one of the legs:



The sculpy is all marble coloured and stuff because I ran out of skin colours super sculpy x.X

Here are two of the heads (I’m still working on them, I realize they are not perfectly symmetrical) I want to make 4 in all :3


These photos show the movement range (sort of <_<;;; )


now both the legs!


I want to make the legs slightly shorter and the body slightly longer (we are talking millimeters here)

I’m wondering if I should make the shin joint shorter and the ankle joint longer?

Anyone in yet?

Any input and criticism would be greatly appreciated :’D

 

firefaux thank you for your comment most people will tell you it looks great and run <_<;;; i love backs too i wouldn't dream of not making it look good xD; i'm probably going to attach the ball to the hips, because it gives you stability and flexibility! and if i do it right it will be able to cross it's legs
i slept on the idea (the legs i made just yesterday) i think i will be moving the ankle, but maybe not quite half way :3

 

Vaith it's all super sculpy and a bit of sculpy III it's just different colours because i ran out of one and continued in another...

Ciantha xD thank you~

Urushi-kitty i know,for some reason the measurement ratio seems about right but it still looks too long i'll see what i can do

Adae i'm looking in to it i asked what i should make and people seemed interested in a Satyr xD

The Blue Kuma thanks will do

 

Wolfmammy thank you a head short to be exact xD;

SillLadyFaethank you i think you wore right, i fixed the ratio between the ankle and shin, it seems to have fixed the problem

 

Logodae thank you, i guess i'll have to do that xD

candygears if i could order them i would love to have used them *3*

Miss_Pygmalion O_O i haven't thought about it! i'll keep it in mind, thank you for bringing it up >_<

my mom went and told me that it supposable resembles a devil, you know what i want to know why is it that sheep/goat features are associated with that ;A; why can't it be innocent and playful ? what did goats/sheep ever do to you? (sorry just a thought)

EDIT: and arn't lams holy or something? talk about mixed signals OTL

 

Miss_Pygmalion thank you ;A; (needed a little cheering up) i'll go with the pegs, i don't know were i can get strong enough magnets were i live (and i can't order on line)

 

xXDarkNekoXx thank you, and i will xD;;;

Urushi-kitty thanks for the picturs through i think i'll stick with pegs ^^;

 

Allegro thank you, you are the first person to comment on the face! i was getting a little worried that it looked bad so nobody was commenting >_<

you mean like there are 3 pieces? (the head (xD) the peg and the horn?)

 

Another update (August 6th)

Thank you for everyone who commented! I appreciate it m(._.)m

I cut the torso in 3 parts


I’m posting some close ups of the faces, I’m not too happy with the way they turned out and I found out I can’t make a smiling face with a closed mouth that looks good or at least ok ._.;;;; all in all they look odd and mutated or something :B

So I’m hoping for some critique on what you like and what could be better (please don’t comment on the symmetry! I can see what’s wrong) and I do realize some of the face ratios are wrong (forehead too small and so on…)

oh and the ears are really rough because i tend to crush them as i work...

I’m also looking for a suggestion for the 4th face, links to photos of faces or other doll sculpts could be helpful to describe what you mean!

1st face, it is supposed to be angry…


2nd face, originally it was supposed to be just smiling but I didn’t like the way it looked so I added teeth and made it less…happy?


3rd head, he was supposed to be sad, I think he looks more miserable in real life then on the photo <_<


4th head, looking for suggestions!

 

Miss_Pygmalion yes i understand what you mean (such a quick reply! :O)
what do you think of the heads in general? (i won&#8217;t get offended if you say you don't care much for them! better know the truth)

 

Kiyakotari ack! know but i don't have paypal or a bank account yet for that matter >_< i'm sorry if i sounded rude._.

 

SillLadyFae yes the one that has teeth now was smiling, i tried doing that but it just looked strange, the face got a shape and futures that i made when i first started sculpting faces, and it didn't look good
thank you for your nice comments >3<
yah the ears are all wonky because i didn't bother with them yet -_-;;; I’ll remember to make them bigger through!

 

Urushi-kitty thank you >3< i think i know what you mean through he was supposed to be more 'dreamy' looking (as in he is dreaming) i fixed it a little since then, but i don't know how much good it did <_<

 

Miss_Pygmalion x3 i'm glad you think so
i have large lips my self so i always end up doing the same for my dolls, is Gypsy considered an ethnic group? @_@ drr English and their definitions >_<
but if it makes you feel any better i have reduced the size of the lips on the doll head with teeth (it fit what i had envisioned for it better)

the eyes are terrible in terms of symmetry it's quite offensive , and i'm working on the details

really? i'll have to do that + it will make the head a more regular doll head size (it is something like 5 6/8 of an inch)

 

bambi_roo28 xD i think so too, i mean it's not your fault your gens mutated xD;;; (no offense meant to anyone!) through it is true that ethnic people tend to have fuller lips

thank you *3* i'm not planing on changing it a lot, just making it more symmetrical/how i imagined it and making sure the heads don't end up looking too alike DX

 

Logodae thank you for your comment
i'll see if i actually want to make him angrier xD! if i do then i will follow your suggestion for sure

his eyes are tilted because he's supposed to look little Asian :X

 

Miss_Pygmalion i'm hoping to build it up to at least 6 inches becouse wigs size 5-6 is really hard to find X_X

 

Ok,ok I didn’t change that much but I thought I’d give people an update anyway

I redid the torso in gray, because I couldn’t see what I was doing in skin colour :

I will be cutting this torso in 3 parts as well…

Here is the shot of the rough back (the weird tabs on his shoulder blades are there so the little detail I did of the spine wouldn’t get crushed)


Updated version of the leg movement picture:


And another full body shot :3



i'm still looking for critique on the heads!

thank you for looking!

 

soshi thank you for your comment i was asking people the over all (for example someone suggested i make the top of the head bigger, i did and it worked out perfectly~!), and every one has been very nice and helpfully so far

personally i think people actually didn't give me enough critique (i'm surprisingly good at taking harsh critiquing xD;; )

 

MieAga i made the 1st head in half an hour xD;;; then i had it lying around for a month, and i would take it out now and then to work on it, so i'm not surprised you think it's the best one (i think so too >D)
thank you for the suggestion, i knew there was something wrong with it but couldn't quite figure it out ^^;
DollsTown is very much an inspiration for this, i'm glad someone was able to pick it up (i also looked at Kaye Wiggs dolls) too bad i don't have a printer so i can have a solid copy of my inspiration D:
i'll do my best to prevent it from being flimsy, but if their is no other way out i'll do that

thank you i was wondering if i did the right thing with the double joints, but after making few dolls the double joint was the only one i found satisfactory/ that i could actually make look decent <_<;;

thank you so much for your comment/critique it was very helpful

 

csnow thank you

MieAga too true, sometimes it strikes when lest expected, i was actually trying to make a female head, but this one just popped out xD;;;;
thank you now i know who to consult if needed

 

MediaStar thank you
don't worry, people won't be swaying me any where i know exactly what i want from the face, it's just sometimes you can't see what your doing wrong to get there (becouse you wore looking at it for too long!), and that's where the critique comes in
i want to make optional bird wings (like http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3483405&postcount=26 and http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3494568&postcount=44)
is that out side the BJD box enough...? (i love the way you put it)

i can't wait to see it finished too, everyones nice comments and support make me all motivated :3 (runs off to work on it, and yes at 1:20 am )

 

tha_queen_of_chaos it's ok (not everyone has the time too read everything, unlike some people *cough*me*cough*)
i added on his eyebrows (not shown on any photos posted), i would have loved to make him a malicious grin, but i'm not too good with smiles ^^;;;
i think i'll keep it that way, everyone seems to be fine with it being that way
Pouty X3 i'll see what i can do
thank you, everyone likes the nose xD
seductive *3* why didn't i think of that? (thank you for the suggestion for the 4th head, first person to do so!)
don't worry you wore very helpful thank you so much >3<

 

bambi_roo28 i make the hollow limbs with straws (i stick a straw through it wile rotating and it takes out the extra sculpy and makes a nice even hole ^^) and for the body (and larger holes) i cut out with an exact-o knife, except the heads, i sculpt them hollow

i hope that helped

 

but i was just thinking and i wanted to see what everybody else thought

i want to make optional bird wings like this doll i did (see posts 26 and 44 http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230409)

so you can choose between a Satyr or a bird... thing (i'm making human legs as well for anybody who is wondering...)

is that worth investing in or am i just deluded?

i really want to make a pair of optional flute playing hands

i like the way this project is going but there is still so much i need to fix that just doesn't work

is there anything you would suggest i should do?

+ if i fix it up would anybody be genuinely interested in getting one? why and why not...

that's it for now

thanks for everyone who commented and critiqued i rally appreciate your help and support

 

i don't know why they aren't working! D<

here is a link to the thread http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230409

i hope that works D: (the images i was linking to are post 26 and 44)

thank you >3<

 

Wolfmammy D: that makes science, but i'm too open minded for my own good sometimes, so i was confused/didn't get it <_<
i hope i don't have to make them bigger becouse i rather like the way they look now (i even sculpted a bit of curly fur at the top!) through it's more in the balance less in the size of the foot, sort of like those female Obitsu dolls, their feet are tinny but they stand fine
i like that head as well, all the other ones are giving me grief right now D:< (especially the sad one U_U how sad...)

thank you for your comment