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Jointing Midriff joint, so hips can SHMOOVE

Aug 30, 2021

    1. I recently decided I want my doll to have a joint at their midriff so they can tilt their hips, but I'm not quite sure how to do that! I haven't sculpted the chest section or the hip section to fit the joint just yet, but I was wondering if this shape would allow the movement I had in mind. Any thoughts or tips on making this joint?
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    2. First, looks awesome in general!! I love following this project, you are doing great!!

      A 3-part torso is somewhat common. Not the standard, but lots of companies and artist's dolls do have them! The one that comes to mind first is Bimong. I highly recommend scrolling through these pictures (and people's photos of Bimong bodies... they are so beautifully complex!!) and looking at the posing and how the joints interact :)

      There are a lot of examples of each part stacking onto the other, with a little overlap (see picture). I can't think of a good example of someone doing a joint inside the other two sections, but I also can't think of a down side to it. FL Minifees kind of have it, but their proportions are different. You might be a bit more limited on side to side twists, if that makes sense. Like, feet and legs facing forward, but upper body turned in a different direction. The internal joint might constrain that, but I think it would depend heavily on the amount of overlap each section has.

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      Also!! I actually did remember a good internal joint with great mobility, check these pictures out: Elf Girl - Spirit Imprint
      Here is a 5 minute long posing video, lots of great joint interactions!! (Here is a mirror if you don't have instagram)
       
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    3. Thank you so much for these, these are a HUGE help! Its always good to have more references especially when I'm still so oblivious to different kinds of dolls, seeing how other dolls are done helps out a BUNCH! Hopefully with this I'll be able to find the most aesthetically pleasing way to get it to work properly, the last thing I want is to send it to be printed only to have it not work

      Thank you again! I'll give these a good study!
       
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    4. Happy to help- I love talking about it all hahah.
      I have a resin printer & will be done with current orders in about a month, so I am always willing to help if you'd like to iterate :3nodding:
       
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    5. Aaah thank you for the offer too! They probably won't be done for another short while as I finish up their legs and jointing, but I would love to take you up on that offer once I get it all worked out! Thank you so much!
       
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    6. Updating, this is what I came up with! I know that there won't be any twisting capability (which I am fine with) but I mainly wanted to be able to move their waist side to side as well as forwards and back. I haven't hollowed it out yet, but I hope that this will work nicely!
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    7. First of all, this looks awesome! Congrats on your progress!!!

      I don't know if you're still working on this, but if I may make a suggestion -- Maybe add notches? I have a doll like this and the notches really help hold the position. I'm afraid that if you leave it smooth, he may wiggle TOO much haha! I'd love to know if you've made further progress on this!
       
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    8. I've since gotten them printed, so theyre going well! I'm in the phase of adjusting the print and sculpting a bit on top of it to help the articulation and strengthen weaker parts. Adding notches to the hips is SUPER SMART and I never even thought of that, I'll definitely test to see if its good!
       
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