Magnets: Glueing and Removing Magnets - extracting, reinserting, reversed polarity

unhook the wrist part from the arm and then glue the magnet back in. i use super glue. just use a small amount. make sure you put the magnet in the right way!
it's best to take the wrist off the arm so that you don't inadvertantly glue the wrist onto the arm.

 

OK Thank, you. That's what I was worried about, gluing the wrist to the arm.

 

In the end It's was impossible to take the magnet out without breaking the shoulder. The 1/4 thick magnet is halfway in the armhole, so I contact Doll Leaves and I they say I could get another torso part.

 

Wow, so super glue won't damage these dolls? 'Cause actually my crobidoll's head cap magnet fell off tonight. -.-
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Superglue is the #1 fix for loose magnets. hehe

 

superglue is what I used when that happened to my doll...I was in Japan at the time so I simply went into a volks store and "asked" and they gave me superglue....at least, I assume that it's super glue...

 

What everyone else said use superglue! xD

 

I have this same problem - are all types of superglue safe to use on resin? (I'm paranoid...)

 

Yikes, one of the head magnets came out and I was in a hurry, so I didn't pay attention. I put it back into the hole, but the wrong way. Now it repels the other magnet so her head won't go together again. I can't get it back out again. Any suggestions?

 

If the magnet is in the head, I'd suggest freezing the head CAP, and trying to remove it's coresponding magnet, so you can re-glue that one in the other way around. If freezing doesn't work, you can try boiling the headcap. That can cause some yellowing, but with all the dolly bits I've boiled, I've not seen any more yellowing in them than is happening to the rest of the doll already. You can also try using acetone dripped CAREFULLY around the magnet hole to loosen the glue, cleaning and rinsing in water after every application.

You could also try getting a stronger magnet, sticking it to the headcap magnet, and pulling, to see if the attraction will be enough to pull it loose from it's glue.

You could also do any of the above to the head to try and gt the magnet you glued in backwards out...but boiling, and acetone risk the face-up getting ruined.

 

The acetone will be OK if you wash the head immediately. I had no luck with freezing... But I hear it works. Acetone and an exacto to carve the magnet out of the hole.

 

Freezing makes superglue (most common types I've found at least like Loct-tite and Zap-a-gap) very brittle. I would use this method for if I glued wrong parts of a model kit together, and it would work. I've also used this method to remove superglue from the face of one of my dolls after an accident in attempting to apply eyelashes. It seems to be the safest method as far as possibly damaging the resin is concerned (as in it doesn't at all).

Unfortunately I have to test this method myself for removing magnets as I've gotten a new anthro doll who's magnets were glued in wrong by the company, and now the poor thing can't use any of its tails. :/ We'll see how well it works.

 

wanted to share my experience.
I had glued(with super glue) the horn magnet of my Soom Grit in the wrong side, inside this head. It was very tight in the hole. I could not try acetone because It would not reach the glue and boiling the head might have damage to this face up..So I tryed to freeze it. I Kept the head in the freezer for 24h or a night.Then I scratched the edge of the hole with an knife.(the resin seem easier to scratch when it's cold) Than try to get it out the with a stronger magnet or a knife.

It didn't work the first time I try, I did that for 2 weeks.Then I got tired because it was not working and haven't try anything for months.Then I tryed this weekend And I finally got it out sunday.

I Kept the head in the freezer 12 hours in it and 12 hours out.(in case if to much exposure to the cold might cause damage).Then scratched the edge with a knife(when the resin was cold) and finally reach bottom and it came off.This face up is unharmed, the head have only loose a bit of this sparkle, but that it.

In overall freezing the glue work but it might take time.You need to freeze it often or maybe wait that the glue get 'old'.

 

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I put my old cuprit's horn magnets in backwards. I used hot water heated in the microwave and let the horns sit for 30s, then was able to easily pop the magnets out with a small flat head screwdriver. I used super glue and the hot water in no way damaged the horns/resin/magnets etc...

 

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I was just finishing up on my doll's new hands, when the magnet popped out of the wrist! I used Krazy Glue to put it back in... but it's backwards.

I'm afraid to use acetone on my doll, so I've been soaking the wrist in warm water in hopes that the glue will dissolve. Any other ideas that aren't potentially hazardous?

 

once you get it out... to help put it back in and get it the right direction what you can do is stick it to the other magnet with a thin layer of plastic(like a baggy or something) between the two magnets. Then apply the glue to the loose magnet and press it into place. Wait till it dries and then pull the plastic sheet from the two magnets.

It's what I do to place magnets in my handcast dolls and it works well to keep the magnets aligned without getting glued to each other. :3

 

Boil water in water cooker, dip hand in hot water, use second magnet to pull first magnet out.

 

hi

the hand fell out of the wrist with the magnet still attached

i have tried using pva glue, white plastic like glue, is there anything else i could use instead?

does anyone know where i can buy more magnets like the lati ones? i'm worried i will lost a magnet or worse still a hand. does lati sell spare parts?

hope someone can help me xxxxxxxx

 

I've used super glue to put my Littlefee's hand magnets back and it holds really well. Just be super careful to put the magnet the right way up, otherwise it will repel the hand instead of keeping it on. I triple and quadruple check magnets polarity before I glue them.

 

I would advise making a mark on the side of the magnet that needs to go into the wrist. Gluening the magnet in the right way sounds fool prove, but actually happens quite often.

I second the superglue.

 

I've got a littlefee and a pair of Leekeworld wings for him. The problem is that the magnets in my Littlefee's back are positioned one + pole above and one - whilst the wings, which arrived with magnets already glued into place both have the same pole on top.

For several days already I've been trying to remove that one magnet from the repelling wing. No such luck. The magnet fits so tightly into the resin that I can't even pry it out with a knive, I've tried. Freezing, soaking it in warm water and soap didn't work and neither did dripping some nail-polish remover on it in the hope that it would get between the magnet and the resin and dissolve the glue.

My last resort would be to drill a little hole through the resin at the back of the magnet so I can push it out but that would leave a visible hole.

Anyone who can help me?

 

Have you tried removing the magnet from the doll instead of the wings? It might be easier if those ones fit so tightly.

 

Maybe the best thing to do is contact Leeke and explain the situation. They're responsable for this. I find rather unfair that you have to drill a hole into the resin, since the first error was from the seller.
If the wings are from second hand market, maybe you can contact your seller and ask for some kind of partial refund... :/

I tried to remove magnets with warm water, softening the silicon glue and it worked for me. Maybe they used a different kind of glue in your wings >_< I really don't have any clue!
I hope you can resolve this </3

 

I think that trying to remove the glue from the other thing is a good idea -if that fails, then yes, it is the company's fault. I'm not sure how much difference will make by complaining, though.

 

I had a similar problem with the tail of one of my sooms...and an ear (two rare earth magnets glued together...super glue fail!)

The magnet was flush with the resin and we tried everything and finally just stuck it in the freezer over night to make the glue brittle(I dont know how long you were freezing it for) Then with some very thin (like needle nose) pliers I was able to pull it out.

Granted the night before we had tried soaking the affected part of the tail in acetone, which softened it and in trying to get the tail out I scraped away a bit of the resin but it gave me some purchase to get the pliers in there. (I would recommend trying the pliers without the acetone first but we were desperate, even trying to use a hard drive magnet!)

 

This is absolutely not the seller's fault. Leekeworld wings are not made or marketed to fit a littlefee's back or work with their existing magnets. In fact, the directions Leeke gives to attach magnetic wings and ears is to tape a magnet to your doll where you want them to attach and then attach the wings or ears to that.

 

First off, if this is the wrong place to post I apologise D: But.. it's an emergency maintenance so I thought...

Alright so, I have a mermaid Aqua from Planet Doll, and she has a detatchable tail / legs that are held in place by magnets in a thigh joint (Our Right)

When I picked my girl up, her right leg fell off, and I realised that the magnet that was meant to remain in her thigh joint was now in the thigh and stuck to the magnet inside of the leg. I've been trying for a good solid hour to figure out how to get it out, and have come up empty. I can't use metallic things like tweezers or plyers as the plyers wont fit and the tweezers get stuck to the magnet underneath and pull down so it's all working against itself. Any ideas on how I can get the joint magnet out of her leg?



~saharali

Edit:
When I manage to get it out, is super glue a safe option for glueing it back in place?

 

I take it the magnet in the leg is pretty strong so you can't just PRY the thing off with needle nose pliers?

If so, superglue the head of a screw to the one you want removed, wait for it to dry, then use that to just pull them apart. You can get the screw off the magnet again once it's out by putting it in the freezer for a few minutes and chipping the glue off.

 

Apologies if this is a blindingly obvious question (LOL) but I was wondering what sort of glue I should use for securing magnets? The magnets are so strong that the normal glue I used just pulls straight back out again.

Should I be using super glue?

Thank you!

 

I've found that superglue works best. Don't use a water-based glue, as I've found it can rust the magnet (no damage to the resin, but a hassle nonetheless).

 

Ugh! I had this happen to my Minettes tail magnet. I did exactly as LuLu said and it worked like a charm!

I put some rubbing alchol on a q-tip to help get the super glue back off the screw (I used a nail) once the magnets were apart.

 

@Kitkaze

it's a horrible experience, isn't it? ;n; We're out of superglue atm so I'm running to the shops bright and early to grab some ouo Im just a tad nervous about getting it back off the screw

 

The alcohol will help loosen it further!

 

If the freezer, alcohol, or heating won't help the magnet come off once it's been super glued to the screw, you could try Duro Super Glue Remover. You should be able to find it in certain hardware stores.

Edit: While super glue would be the best way to glue the magnet back in the leg, I would recommend using Elmer's glue or eye puddy instead. I once was gluing a magnet into a doll's head, as it had fallen out, but the magnet slipped in crooked. It then got stuck, and none of the above would get it out. I eventually had to sell the doll with that defect. When I got a Pukifee, one of her foot magnets came out and I used white glue/Elmer's glue. It worked just fine, and it's easier to remove if you make a mistake.

 

Yep supergluing the magnet in is aok. I like to test to see which way the polarity needs to be then mark the side I'm going to GLUE in with a "G" so I know to put the glue there. That way I don't glue it back in backwards. You can use a simple sharpie marker to label the magnet.

 

Thanks everyone for being so helpful ^^ I was only able to get super glue yesterday,so I had to wait to try it out The magnet came out of her leg fine, now its currently in the freezer and I'm hoping that also works ^^

@PrincessEv
Is elmers glue like.. PVA? glue? The kind we used in primary school ouo

@Kitkaze
Oh thanks for that ouo I would have totally forgotten to glue it in the "right" way |D

 

Acetone melts superglue like a champ. Even diluted acetone fingernail polish remover will do the job. Just soak the magnet/screw in some for a bit (put it in a glass/metal container you can seal as the smell is strong and it evaporates quickly).

 

I dislike Superglue for magnets. When you put the headcap on, it can often "clack" together. This can send a shock through the magnet, to the surrounding, fragile super glue. It most often will just break, releasing the magnet. I tend to use Hot glue. It's rubbbery, and thus is immune to the shock of the headcap landing in place. So far, my dolls have NEVER lost their magnets with Hot Glue.

 

I highly doubt Elmer's will hold.. probably fine for puki, but keep in mind a puki is really tiny, and this is a pretty big doll with a magnet that has to hold on a leg/tail part so the magnet is pretty strong.

I'd still go with superglue, as Kitkaze said.. mark the magnet and take your time to put it in.. dont rush it or the magnet will end up crooked.

 

So my friend and I had a little mishap with a magnet and now it's super-glued in backwards. She says she checked the polarity before she did it, but she didn't mark it so blah.

We tried putting it in the freezer and then magnet-ing it out, but it did not work. I'd appreciate a step-by-step to see if we did it right, though.

We finished his face-up right before the little incident so we're both a little hesitant to try boiling his head to get the magnet out. Are there any other ways? Thanks in advance.

/edit: I'll be trying to get an image of the magnet in the meantime:

 

I wouldn't boil it, magnets they loose their pull when heated. If you really have to use heat use a blow dryer.

But I'd try a bit of rubbing alcohol on a q-tip and carefully swab the magnet, your trying to dilute the glue. Then with a pin or exacto knife dig out the glue around the magnet. Be careful as the alcohol can dilute the sealant on the face up, but if your careful of dripping you should be ok.

I always mark my magnets with a sharpie before I touch the glue, works every time.

Lots of luck!

 

Thank you so much. We'll definitely try that. Have you ever had luck with freezing the magnet?

 

It worked! Thanks!

 

@Amber Kyou
I'm inclined to agree :c Ive tried the PVA glue about 3 or 4 times and each time I have had the magnet fall back in. So now, I needa find my super glue and am going to do it that way. Hopefully everything goes okay ^^
This is taking so long ;n; Poor Morwyn has had a floppy tail on since this happened :v

 

Well it may be a little late to offer up but just in case, you may want to try super glue FIX-ALL ADHESIVE. It takes a whole lot longer to dry then normal superglue, so you have plenty of time to get it set right where you want it just like with elmers. But it holds SO MUCH STRONGER then normal superglue. I've super glued stuff (even for my dolls) that have come apart after normal wear and tear and had to be re glued. NOTHING I have used this fix-all adhesive on has ever had to be re glued. Not even the big clasp my cousin hung the freaking weight from lol.

 

@Tellnoone_Noonetells

oh, I've never heard of that before I'll have to stock up on some if it's as good as you say. Considering 1 of the 2 dolls I own has magnets, and most of the ones I want will have detachable parts, it's probably wise to invest in some good glue ^^

 

One of the 2 head back magnet for my crobidoll tiny came off. Now the head back keeps falling off. I tried glue gunning but that didn't work at all. Would super glue work? What glue is strong enough?

 

Super glue is what doll makers use. It will eventually crack and pop out because most head caps aren't designed well and the resistance from the magnet is too direct. Any cyano-acrylate glue is safe, doesn't matter if it's liquid or gel. Just make sure you mark the magnets with their polarization before you glue them! There's a huge thread on what to do if you glue the magnet in backwards.

 

A good glue for bonding metal to plastic (resin) is Zap A Gap Medium. Zap A Gap has many formulas so make sure it's Medium.

 

I'm going to be getting a Soom Goss in a few months and I figure I might as well ask this now. When I get him, I'll be way too excited to wait for the answer!

Okay, so I have quite a few questions about this and some are related to Fairyland Minifees, so I hope I can get some help from owners and stuff. XD

1.) When you install the magnets, would you make both the magnets go the same "way"? As in both magnets in the head are negative side out and both in the horns are positive side out? Or would you make it so that you could magnet the horns together when not in use? (One horn neg side out, one pos side out)

2.) Fairyland Minifees come with magnets already installed in their bodies, right? In their backs, if I heard right. Do they also have them in their heads? if I wanted to make it so the horns could be used by both the minifee (that I'll someday get) and my Goss, is there any way I can know ahead of time which way to install the magnets? (I'll have Goss long before I get a minifee).

3.) Do you have any advice as to what glues to use/anything else about magnet installation that might be helpful?

 

Soom's magnets are not installed - you need to do that yourself. I do not know about Minifees though. My suggestion would be, if the MNF heads do have magnets already installed, then install the horn magnets so that they attract to the ones in the MNF head, and then install the Soom head magnets to attract the horns.
(of course, as I said, I don't know anything about MNFs though. :P)

So as far as actually putting them in, positive attracts to negative. You want to glue the magnets in the same way; ie, positive out on all the parts. This will have the negative side against the headcap - which will then attract to the horn's positive side through the resin, and hold the horn on.

Now, if you wanted to make the horns attract to each other as well, you could do that, but you would still need to be careful that the head magnets still attract to each of the horns. I.e., one horn positive out, and the other negative out, and then the head ones matching.

 

Pre-installed magnets can get pulled by the other magnet after a while. Personally I use super glue to reinstall magnets, but with super glue you have to be careful that you're putting in the magnet in the right direction, once you make a mistake it will never come out again unless you destroy the resin around it...

 

Actually if you use a super glue, especially the correct super glue like Zap A Gap, you can get the magnets out easily. You can use acetone, which is VERY bad for resin but in small amounts it's okay if you are very careful. But the best way is to freeze the part you are trying to get the magnet out of. Then you can use another, larger, stronger magnet to pull it right out. Sometimes after freezing the magnet just falls out. People also have magnets fall out while dyeing a doll in almost boiling water therefore hot water would probably help remove a magnet as well.

 

mirrorwalk, that is good to know! I was digging into my doll's headcap with a screwdriver last night trying to get the misglued magnet out ......

 

Boiling a magnet would be bad though. Doesn't that ruin the magnetic bits?

Anyway, does anyone know an easier glue to remove? I think what I'll do is use a wimpier glue at first and when I get my minifee (someday), see how his magnets go, then redo my Goss's magnets to match.

 

CharmeC: Try freezing it for a few hours and see if you can't get that magnet to pop out. IF you have to use acetone use a toothpick to dab tiny amounts around the magnet. It will take a long time (hours) and you might want to rinse with water every now and then while working. Acetone can melt resin so do not let it soak in it or forget to wash it off with soap and water. There are a few threads that can give you more detail about freezing and/or boiling to pop out magnets than I can. Really, acetone should be a last resort.


Quetz: Boiling magnets is fine. It does nothing to them. Boiling will damage the faceup though so it might not be an option. Also when boiling resin (actually you don't want the water boiling but close) the resin temporarily softens and can be accidentally "squished". For example if you boil hands you can reposition fingers. If you want the resin to go back you boil again and the fingers will pop right back into their original shape. I don't know anything about a "weaker" glue. Couldn't hurt to try a water based glue like Aileen's Tacky Glue. I doubt it would hold strongly enough but I haven't tried it. Worst thing that could happen is the magnets fall out.

 

Would elmer's glue work? I can remove that with water, right?

I'm just worried because the horn parts the magnets will be glued into will be painted.

 

Boiling (or heating) a neodymium magnet, which is all I've ever seen used for dolls, is not good for the magnets.

"Rare Earth (neodymium) magnets have a high resistance to demagnetization, unlike most other types of magnets. They will not lose their magnetization around other magnets or if dropped. They will however, begin to lose strength if they are heated above their maximum operating temperature, which is 176°F (80°C) for standard N grades."

Water boils at 212°F. I have experienced this first hand dying a doll's head with magnets for the head cap.
The magnets were very week after coming out of the pot (heated to boil for the dye to activate then allowed to cool down before dipping the dolly) Not completely useless but I noticed a significant difference in how easy it was to knock the headcap off.