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Lost cause

Apr 18, 2010

    1. I've been working on this doll head for a good month I believe and I'm at the point where I feel like I just want to let her die and start again with the knowledge I've gotten from creating her. This is my first time sculpting a doll and I've had very little prior experience with sculpting but I'm a perfectionist. All I can see is her flaws and I feel like she doesn't reflect what I wanted to make at all. That being said, I wanted to get some critique to learn from.

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      My materials were super sculpey with a gesso and modeling paste finish.
       
    2. just one advice, try to give more thickness and roundness to the forehead adding paste in that point, in order to recreate the zone of the eyebrows.Even so it seems a good job, don't discourage you, first head is always hard :)
       
    3. i agree with chihiro.
      i think it is possible to salvage this head by a few easy steps:
      add more clay to the forehead above the brow line, at the moment the forehead is sloping back at an angle when it should be straighter.

      doing more to the lips would also help. either sanding them down more OR adding more clay to the face below the cheeks to make them stick out less. a few millimeters can make all the difference.

      you've done a great job on the eyelids, they are well defined and a nice shape. i'd personally make the eyes larger though to suit the shape of her face.

      A great first head! please don't give up. i have lots of my first ones in a box to look at and see how far i've come.
       
    4. While I think this sculpt is a wonderful first try, if you are frustrated with her and want to move on, sometimes that is the best thing you can do. It is never really a lost cause when you have learned something. And most of the time verey sculpt gets better than the one before it!

      It has already been said but I agree she needs a little more forehead, both vertically and out in front. I love her nose and you've done a wonderful job of keeping her symmetrical
       
    5. This is a very respectable first sculpt, but I agree that you're going to have an easier time starting over than trying to turn her into something she's not. For critique, it would help to know what kind of doll you're trying to make -- more realistic? More "ABJD" style?
       
    6. @ Morgan
      Basically, yes. I don't want to do your typical generic BJD with no facial character to speak of but that's kind of what I ended up with. When I tried to give her a stronger facial shapes it just looked weird and kind of scary ^^;; I think I really want the doll/character to have an almost boyish face but still be recognizably feminine. I don't want to go super realistic, I still want it to look like a doll but I don't want it to be super simplified either, does that make sense?

      The other option I thought of also was doing the exact opposite for learning purposes and do a more anime/dollfie dream styled doll. I think doing something like that would be more simple and there by helping me get over the hump of doing my first doll. Then after that try and go for developing my own style. But I dunno, it was just a thought *shrug*

      I don't think working on this head was a total waste or anything but it was discouraging. I definitely plan to work on a second head and I appreciate all of the input :) Hopefully going into my second doll head with some experience and a better idea of what I want will mean being happier with the outcome.
       
      #6 faustbane, Apr 20, 2010
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    7. faustbane, you've accomplished a lot with your first head. But why not sculpt both of your ideas at once?

      You could begin an anime/dollfie dream style head and continue to develop a more realistic slightly boyish girl at the same time. Switching back and forth between two projects can help you see both more clearly as you proceed. I switch to another project when I get stuck on the one I'm working on. If one really isn't going anywhere, you'll know partly because the other one is developing more like the way you want.

      I guess my point is you don't have to give up on the one head before trying something new...
       
    8. You definitely shouldn't be discouraged. Sculpting faces takes practice; nobody gets a great result the first time. Honestly, you shouldn't be discouraged if your second head isn't quite what you wanted, either... I think I was up to five or six serious attempts (not even counting my deliberate 'practice' sculpts) before I really felt like I was getting somewhere.

      I'd suggest getting some photo reference -- ideally front and side views of the same person -- and trying to do a more realistic sculpt. You'll learn a lot about how real faces work... and that will help you make your doll faces look more real, even if they're stylized.
       
    9. Lower the eyes by just a bit and increase the forehead size and brow area (And I mean a lot). Put some a little bit of meat to the chin. If you do this, you should have a mature looking women. If you want her to look younger, add some more meat to the cheeks and especially to the top side of the mouth .