Lightening Resin - Why Bleaching or Dyeing Doesn't Work

hopefully someone here will be able to help you!!

 

Is it possible to use RIT dye to change a normal skin doll to white skin. I know that it's possible to tan a doll this way but the only threads I found on lightening the skin colour was with a airbrush.

So, is it possibe?

~Amaris

 

Since a dye is a pigment added to an object it's not possible to lighten anything with a dye. Anything that would bleach the resin to white would simultaneously destroy the molecular bond of the material I would imagine. Airbrushing or a lot of layers of white blushing is the only way to lighten a normal skin tone.

 

Okay. Thank you.

~Amaris

 

how can it be done? pleas help me, i have no paintgun or money to ship the head away

 

I don't think that it's possible. If you want a WS doll perhaps you can do a trade with someone.

 

This question has been asked before, by myself.

Basically it isn't possible unless you want to use an airbrush.
The only way to make the resin darker to lighter would be to cover the entire doll with your desired airbrushed color, basically.

 

the doll is not made in whiteskin :S But i have seen it been done, i just dont remember how

 

maybee, it can be done by layers of layers of msc and whitecalk?

 

You can paint it or airbrush the head, that's it. I've seen a couple heads on yahoojapan, but once done you only have one shot at doing the faceup or you'll have to repaint the entire head again. Dyeing will only make dolls darker, not lighter.

 

There was someone a while back that made their doll head white by using powered chalk, a lot of chalk.

I wish I could remember the owner...

 

me to, i would love to see it, corse i am really in love in Leek Mihael, but also in love in whiteskindolls

 

Darkmothflame has made heads more pale by "blushing" with white chalk pastels, but it does tend to make the head look chalky. I've also heard that some people have had bleaching effects by using the Rembrant or other whitening toothpastes. However, it just lightens and unless the doll was a very light tone already would not turn it white.

 

Uhm... ok I know how this would sound but I want my Nana Pureskin (w/c has normal skin) to have snow white skin. I don't really want to remove the original make-up since she looks perfect the way she is and I don't really want to risk her perfect face-up by having another artist do it. Also, I'm not very good at detaching body parts for dyeing. :P

One option I'm looking at is airbrushing. However, I'm kind of scared 'cause the artist might not do a good job at airbrushing and the paint might chip of easily leaving my doll uneven. Also, as I've previously stated, I don't really want to risk destroying the nice, original face-up.


...help? T_______T

 

Sorry to say that I honestly just see no way to go about lightening a head without removing the faceup underneath.
And even if a person were to do an amazing job airbrushing, it would still wear away with time.

 

>> I heard that women's facial bleach works. It's delicate enough for skin, but lightens hair, clothing and some plastics.

I would try it on a resin hand first, though. Never on a face - right off the bat.

 

Have anyone ever tried to remove tanning? With sanding maybe? I have tanned Fin-head (no body) and I'am just curious about her abilities.

 

I think you would risk sanding away the details of the face if you were to try and remove the tan color, not to mention it may be an inconsistent color beneath. If you want the head to be a different color I would suggest commissioning someone with an airbrush to paint it a different color, or trading it for another head in the color you want.

 

Yes, I was thinking the same thing, that sanding might risk the details of head. And it might be also hard to have a smooth colour.
So I think I just keep her the way she is then.

 

okay im gonna attempt to revive this thread for some help! Im thinking of attempting to put a soom resin head on an original dream dollfie vinyl body. the part where it gets tricky is that the body is ns and the head is about as white as you can get. does anyone know any good tricks of the trade to bleach vinyl? if not id have to revert to like... white inverted blushing, but if possible if like something permanent... anyone have any ideas? ^^;;;

 

So far as I am aware, since the color of NS goes all the way through the vinyl, there is no way of bleaching it.

To be honest I think you would be better off blushing the head to match the body than the other way around. You could get some additional color by deliberately allowing the head to yellow some.

 

it would be easier but the head is a limited and i dont really want to mess it up... maybe some added blushing to both would even it out...

 

Well I have seen quite few posts of dyeing BJD bodies for modding and all that, so i am curious..is there a way to lighten or bleach a BJD? I'm going to be getting a 60cm Obitsu soon and their "white" (color I'll be getting) is apparently most companies "normal" flesh color. For the character I want though...I want her to be a deathly WHITE, how can I do this? I have a few ideas for it, but I want to see what is said here.

 

I don't think there's any way to strip the colour out of plastic/vinyl- at least to the extent that you're describing-
If there was, I think it would seriously destroy the doll anyway.

Perhaps you could paint it, but it would be prone to chip and need to be redone every so often.

Why not consider a resin doll that is already pastey-white?

 

BF insisted on buying me a doll, and I didn't want to put him out of house and home, so the only thing I'll let him buy me is an obitsu. Yea..I'm wondering if just trying to "lighten" with paint will make life easier.

 

There are some resin dolls that are as cheap, or sometimes cheaper, than obitsus.

Angel of Dream: http://www.aoddoll.net/index.asp and Bobobie: http://www.bobobie.com/index.php?main_page=index offer lower-price dolls and both offer 'white skin'

Best of luck getting your white doll-

 

Thanks for those, sadly, the doll is already ordered and all that, but I'll def bookmark these for if he gets in a doll buying mood again

 

My Kohya has some damage on his face that makes his skin tone yellow. I blush over it with chalk pastel and you can not tell the difference, ever. However, I had to use alot of layers of chalk pastel. And that's just to cover a finger sized blemish.

But, you can also lighten the skintone of a body in the same way, or the skin tone of a head. You will have to use alot of MSC (I used Dullcoate, or however you spell it. The non Volks one.), however. Especially since it's a normal skin toned body, anyway.

Zoi no miko also once blushed a Paris head in a simillar method to the one I just described. He was a NS head and she made him white. I beleive she actually used make up (non oil based) for the job. Still, lots of layering to be done, and, just for the head, she told me she had to go through like, almost two cans of MSC.

What I would suggest for the blushing is maybe even using both MSC and Dullcoate, as the former is a good finalizing sealant, and the latter is an excellent sealant to layer things on (it's meant to be painted over). But I've never mixed the two, ever, so I don't know if your Obitsu would explode or anything.

I also saw, a long long time ago, a person who may have bleached thier doll to try and make them white. Unfortunately, that was years ago and I have no idea how that turned out.

When it doubt, test your theories on spare hands/parts, or doll headcaps, (Never had an Obitsu, don't know if they have head caps. :P.) because these things people will never see.

Good luck.

 

You could always try airbrushing the doll in a lighter skintone acrylic paint, though you'd have to have access to an airbrush setup, which can potentially cost as much as a doll itself, depending on the brand and the type of kit you get. I personally would LOVE to have an airbrush kit to do faceups with, but yeah, I don't have the money for a doll yet, so the airbrush kit is a long way coming.

 

That's right. If you need a doll and airbrush for refference, Paulkaiju's Yooskie wasn't...well, wasn't airbrushed, but the paint he used, can be used on anything. Look him up, I think he even had a tutorial. There's no reason why you couldn't do white.

 

How do I find him/tutorial?

 

Hey - I have the same quistion.

 

I would like to turn my Delf soo from Luts to a white skin or a blue skin girl. I heard something about tootpaste to make the resin white? Is that possible?
And I rather don't blush her...
Help me please

 

Toothpaste will never turn a normal skin doll into a white skin one. As far as I'm aware, the only way to turn normal skin to white skin is to buy a new doll

 

Toothpaste has a chance of restoring white to a doll that has yellowed, it does not change the doll to lighter than it started.

Your options for white are: new doll (as Damasquerade suggested), or all over airbrushing/pastel blushing.

You could possibly turn her blue with dyeing, but would likely need to go darker than the current skin tone to not have her just look ill. A lighter blue would just shade the current tone.

 

Rule of thumb: you can always go darker. You can never go lighter.

 

Paint comes to mind.

 

Yesterday I finally got my AOD tiny, NiNi.



This picture doesn't show it because the lighting from outside is so bright, but her resin/skin is really dark. When I picked her skin tone (choice between pale, pink, yellow or tan) I picked yellow. But now that I actually see it up close, I really wish she was lighter ._.

Does anyone know if it is possible to make her a few shades lighter? Any way at all?

Thanks!~

 

no there is no way to lighten resin.

 

The only way I would think of lightning her skin color is sending her off to an airbrush artist to do so. Or you can sell her and buy her in a lighter skintone from the company or try to find someone with the same mold but lighter skin color and trade.

 

Airbrushing the entire doll: but this will wear off and chip off at the joints, which means you will have to have it redone periodically.

Other than that, no

 

Guess my options are more limited than I thought :O

Thanks guys! I'll keep these in mind.

 

revamping this thread because I have a related question-
Did anybody try going over with white pastel?

 

lol I tried it myself- it actually worked!

EDIT;; Head is NOT senior delf- he's a junior delf >_> sorry, I don't even know my own doll's type.

I used MSC (UV cut) for coating. 5~6 coats of white pastel were caked on the head.
The head I used was kinda light NS to begin with, but I think this method will work on other darker heads as well.
However I do NOT recommend this for lightening up a whole doll.
It'll be a lot of work and you'll have to be extra, extra careful when handling the doll because it can peel off.



I don't have to buy a new NS body now, because he matches Volks WS resin perfectly *.*

~Sarah

 

this is really interesting!! 0_0

 

The original poster used the term bleach, but I think she was more referring to restoring natural colour to an older doll that has yellowed a lot. This can be done with sanding or soaking in rubbing alchol or cleaning with a product such as Bon-Ami, all of which has since been discussed in other threads here in the Workshop.

 

a bio-chemics student told me that zit creams will whiten a doll.
This is what she replied to me:

"hydrogen peroxide aka zit cream as it would be milder and less damaging because it's a less harsh chemical than bleach and also the zit cream is dilute so it's not a high % strength. You can apply the cream on the doll and leave it there on the surface for awhile as it hardens and after a few days, wash the doll with water, dry and re-apply. There is no fast method that I know of that won't harm the doll"

Thanks again Birju.

 

I read an article on here I think about people using warm water and peroxide to get yellow out of resin. Worked on some dolls but not on others tho.

 

So this may be a bit counter intuitive but has anyone seen the effects of bleach (or some other color removing agent) on darker resin? Be it by accident, or even on purpose? Would anyone have photos?


Beg pardon if this is in the wrong place, I'm still pretty new here. ^_^

 

I have not tested bleach on dark resin, but I have tried hypoclorite on white resin. It turned out to be a strong oxydiser which made the resin very splotchy orange and yellow. Can't imagine it would have any positive effect on dark resin either.

 

There's a 'sticky', I think in this forum, titled Bleaching Resin, Or Why You Can't. That's all I know.
Edit: Argh, I wanted to be able to give you the link but I can't find it. It's not a sticky in this forum, but it is a thread somewhere...
Edit deux: HAH! Got it! Here we go: http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40297&highlight=bleach,+resin This has a lot of info about what's been tried with bleach.

 

Maybe someone will take on this venture, I know someone did it with sun exposeur (well at least two people) but I did find one of the threads on bleaching and why it's not a good idea.

 

What *I* did with sun exposure was to deliberately yellow paper-white Bobobie resin to more or less match Dollzone creamy white resin.

 

Thank you all, I'll check out that sticky in the mean time!

The general idea is not to clean a doll but change the complexion of the doll.

 

Not a good idea, even if it did work, I had "lightened" one of my doll's parts before but couldn't do it to the other parts so they didn't match anymore.

The lightened part had uneven 'ripples' in the resin that couldn't be sanded out.

 

Yes that's the look I want, it's for a 'burn scar' that creates uneven pigmentation inthe skin as well as damage. Obviously I don't want to completely ruin a doll, but I do want it to look like its a 'burn'

 

Is it possible to remove the tint from a doll to say a normal to white skin?

 

Nope, sorry. You can not change the colour of a doll from normal to white. The colour is mixed into the resin, so it won't come off or out.
Painting them is possible, but not actually removing the colour from the resin itself

 

I know some1 in a different forum that did that. Her dolls were both normal skin and she airbrushed them white. I think they look really good. I wish I could find a betetr pic though DX

 

You can have them airbrushed white with paint but you cannot remove the color from the resin just know that where the joints touch the paint can and most likely will scrape away in those spots. If your not okay with that I suggest you sell your doll and re-purchase them in white skin. Sorry