Leekeworld L-Type Boys Discussion - Part 2

I was hoping to buy one of the L boys, Lionel to be exact, but I have an older Lionel head and I really wanted to use him to make the character I'm planning, plus I couldn't afford a new head sadly. So who's ordering one of these boys? Anyone planning on getting Lionel especially? I'm really curious to see what people do with him since I love that sculpt soooo much. XD Um, also I've never spoken in the old thread before so to anyone who reads this, hi!

 

The Lionel sculpt is wonderful. I love that default face-up on him, too. I had looked at him some time ago as a possible shell for a character but while wonderful looking, he wasn't quite right.

I wish that Leeke would have this wig: http://www.leekeworld.com/En/Product/p_view.asp?it_code=4662&B_catalog_num=146 available in that custom colour again in the size I need *sigh*. I'm seriously in love with this wig and one of my future doll needs it.

And we've had softly falling snow where I live for 2 days now, perfect weather for me to get some outdoor shots of Khale (a Frost Elf/Ice demon) and I can't get outside to take pictures because of the short days and being at work all day *sigh*. So in leu of a really cool winter pic, here's a shot of Khale and Fei-Lau (DZ Edward) this fall.

 

Wow Iron_Dog that's a beautiful shot! I love the pic and the boys. They look amazing! XD My boy did have the default face up, which while chipped due to age was wonderful, I really loved it, but sadly it just wasn't right for the character so I wiped him clean so I can get him a more character appropriate face up.

vadafade Hi! I saw that and I meant to post but I was being a nervous nelly and then I thought eh grow up! So when I saw the new thread I posted here instead. lol Oooh I can definitely see why, Min is adorable! What a cute little face he has. If you do end up ordering him then good luck and I can't wait to see what you do with him. XD

 

Thank you, ArcaneDesires. Khale is dead easy to photograph well. His face-up is the limited "light" one for the Vampire Khal. When I had Fei-Lau painted, I asked Angel Toast to take some of the cues for his face-up from Khale's and blend it with the default face-up DZ did for Edward, spin it to look "cold" and put the snowflake on Fei-Lau's forehead. I'm incredibly pleased with how it turned out because it suits Fei-Lau's character as a winter storm god perfectly.

 

Iron_Dog They both look fantastic. I really love the colouring they have and their wig styles and Fei-Lau's face up is fantastic. He definitely reminds me of a Winter Storm God. That snowflake looks amazing! XD Khale's wig is just gorgeous and those little teeth. He's very handsome.

vadafade Hmm, I don't have experience myself, but looking at them, I'd say not. The Solid Muscle body in particular definitely doesn't seeing as they show a clear picture of the back of the legs and that looks like a single joint to me. The other's look of a similar construction, so unless someone can say otherwise, I don't think they do.

 

vadafade: I just went and checked and the answer is no. Khale is on the solid muscle body and neither his knees nor his elbows are DJ. There is also a locking mechanism in the hip joint but I've found that because he is such a heavy piece of work, he some times suffers from spinny legs anyways. He does, however, have a 3-piece torso. He also came to me with magnetic hands.

I had difficulty with his hands in that the "locking" mechanism of them didn't want to work properly. It appears that you hold the wrist ball with one hand and twist the hand part about 1/4 turn to lock resin tabs in place and prevent accidental popping off of the hands. It never worked that way for Khale although it ultimately didn't matter as I got him DZ armour hands within days of getting him. The hands were also attached with some type of very thin string. There were no S-hooks for his hands (I ordered some from DZ for their 70cm boys and they work great).

But, for all the headache of keeping his default hands on, they are beautifully sculpted and blushed. Given the size of them, having them magnetic is also a god-send for getting tight fitting/close sleeves over his arms.

 

I don't have an SD AoD per se (I have a limited collab AoD boy, he's SJ though) but I do have 2 MSD's and they're one of the best standers in my crew. The resin is also very nice. Unfortunately, that's all I can add to this.

 

I am partial to AoD bodies although its the older ones (for the muscular MSD's that they've since changed to slim, non-muscular ones). I'd definitely suggest scouring the photo reference section to see what their new bodies are like for the SD's.

 

I have a Khal head and a Mihael head, both from 2012 and I'm still finding bodies for them, haha. I can help a bit on the list vadafade has. I have both the Little Monica type A and type B bodies (both 2012, 1 month apart from each other, the type A one I have is slightly pinker, the type B slightly yellower but nothing big...just...I noticed it? Haha.) I posted in the photo reference thread showing both my heads on the Little Monica type B body here, for those who interested. I personally find the heads still a tad big for the body. As for resin match, they're roughly the same shade but Leeke is pink toned while Little Monica is yellow tone...perhaps blushing would solve that?

As for Leeke VS Migi doll, I have Migi 2012 NS from when they had a period where they removed NS-A and NS-B and went with just NS (supposedly I heard they're similar to NS-A now but I've never had the chance to confirm that.) and a more recent 2013 NS-B head. My NS-B head matches the Little Monica body and the Little Monica body doesn't perfectly match either of my leeke heads. Same for the other migi heads (I think they yellowed faster so they're slightly darker now?). In short, none of my NS Migi heads match leeke NS perfectly. I don't have the NS-A so I can't say about that...it's also the one which has the highest chance of matching Leeke's pink tone, from what I know about Migi NS, so...haha, my Migi NS don't help.

edit: I'm quite sure that "Basic" = Normal and "Snow" = White and I know (at least) I use them interchangeably, if that helps.

And I'm looking at a Granado Nuevo body in NS (their NS is pink toned) for my Mihael (he's supposed to be buff) but I'm not too sure yet. Oh well, there's still time to look around and research while I slowly save up!

another edit: here's the photo of Migi and Leeke NS to show that none of the ones I have match :/

 

Haha, well, technically Migi NS-A is still out in the open, at least. But to be honest I don't think the huge heads of Leekeworld boys would go too nicely on the Migi body...>3>

 

Always want leeke-Lion. Why its sold out

 

I can't wait to hear what the match is like

 

I just got my Akagidoll 66cm body in NS for Zeke, my Leeke Khal head. The body is a pretty good match, size and proportion wise. You can see more photos in my box opening, but I'll leave just the photo of him after I dressed him here. Zeke's the one on the left.

 

cian Your boy looks good on that body! Really nice combo there and I love his styling! XD

vadafade He has such a cute face! I can't wait to see him all done up and with his body.

Sadly I cannot produce pics of Cato, he's face upless, bodiless, wigless AND eyeless. I fail as a doll owner! *pats poor Cato*

 

Well that's a shame, but good to know Iplehouse is such a pretty good match. Thanks for posting that! I still kinda wish I'd gotten a new Lionel head, he'd be easier to match to the granado body then, but alas I didn't have the money at the time. Still, thanks for sharing, good info is always helpful. XD

 

Granado is a fairly close match to Iplehouse. Or well it was in 2012 anyway. According to this post But not perfect. At least in my eyes. Iple seems paler and more pinky while Granado is a little darker and seems to have more yellow in it. My Lionel head appears to have lost most of it's pink, but I'm still worried that it may be too dark or too yellow to match Granado normal. It'd be easier if it was paler imo. XD

I'm matching him to the male Neuvo body, I've seen a Lionel on um I think it was a 64cm body and loved how it looked. But Cato needs the taller and slightly bigger body, which I've been told he should do fairly well on though I may need to widen his neck whole just a little, so since the body shape is perfect for my Lionel head and Lionel is perfect for Cato, I'm basically just going to put them together and if it doesn't work, find a way to MAKE it work. Yeah I'm that determined, but should be ok. lol

EDIT: Actually looking at a newer post from 2013 aka this one the match of Iple and Granado looks even better. So a granado body may be suitable for your boy, though possibly a tiny bit darker if Leeke matches Iple pretty well? Hope that helps!

 

You're welcome! Glad I could be of help. XD Just out of curiosity, which body would you consider getting for your Min if you did go with Granado?

Ahhhhh I'm so excited! I've commissioned a custom wig for Cato, so now I just need to collect my birthday money together and hopefully get his body and then I just need his eyes and clothes. The only thing I haven't decided on is his t-shirt, the place I got his partners top from doesn't do them in his size and I still suck at sewing. lol *ponders*

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That'd be awesome to see him on that body I think. I'd probably have gotten the 64cm for Cato knowing that he fits on it great, but the body shape of the Nuevo is exactly what Cato should have and he needs to be taller. Good thing is, although I only have one outfit for him right now, even though they won't be the right style for Cato, Cato can borrow my Iplehouse EID's clothing until he gets his own. So that's good at least. XD We won't have a nekkid Lionel/Cato in here! lol

But yep I'm absolutely thrilled to be able to get a short masculine wig for him. The examples the wig maker showed me were almost exactly the style I wanted. So happy! *dance dance*

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@Vadafade: Grats on the Popo body Definitly gotta show him of!

I just recently (tuesday) got a Lionel head and choose to go and try going with a Mirodoll (68 cm) body for him as the built - and also current price - were tempting. I'm curious to see how it turns out.
I had to mod his eyes slightly (bigger) to fit the character I had in mind and today got to do his face-up

Keldrean_face-up von Wildcard_Snowy auf Flickr
He still needs smaller eyes (he's wearing 12 mm and I'm thinking of trying 10mm), wig, body, clothes and shoes but for a spontaneous idea of mine he's coming along really nicely -^^-

 

Vadafade Congrats on the Popodoll body. Those were all awesome choices, but though it won't work for me, I really do love that body. Nice choice, looking forward to seeing your boy complete!

Snowy! OMG I am so sorry I wasn't able to get pics of my Lionel head to you, I never had good light or anywhere to really take pics and then you already had him. Wow he looks so good! I love his lips and the burn? by his eye. He looks great and nice job on the eye opening there, looks great! I would have totally gone with the Miro body myself, if it was bigger, I really love the look of that body. Can't wait to see him, I hope it works out well for you!

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@ArcaneDesires: Yes, after avoiding me at first, all of sudden that Lionel head was rather in a hurry to come to me (afraid I might choose an other mold? XD). And I totally know the light issue. This weekend is the first one in a while that has really good weather
Thank you -^^- I'm glad others are able to enjoy is look as well (yes, it's supposed to be a burn-remainder from an explosion). A sharp scalpel is the tool to go for when eye-opening I came to realize. I really was able to peel millimeter for millimeter off and slightly adjust the eyeshape -^^-

Oh, I think I never asked, but... what body did you take for yours?
For me taking a 68 cm body is already a 'large' step for me - in every sense of the word ^^°
Well, not really, now that I think about it. My currently largest boy is around 64cm so... :3 Not that much difference.

 

Reminds me of what happened when I got my Lionel head too. Guess those guys just wanted to come home to us both. lol I LOVE the burn this guy has, he really has wonderful character already, he's great. XD Did you thin out his eyewells as well as change the shape? He has such thick eyewells that the eyes I want to use on mine won't show up at all unless I thin those out, but I'm too scared to touch his eyes like that.

As far as body, I don't have it just yet, still got a little more saving to do since I just bought myself another Elfdoll girl head, but mine is going to go on the Granado Nuevo body. It's perfect for his character. I do wish the Mirodoll body was broader, because I love that one too and would love to have it for him, but it just doesn't seem big enough compared to his partner. I may be wrong having never seen one in person, but still going for the Granado right now. Love the shape and look of that one so much. XD And he's not even going to be my biggest. Those Iplehouse EID's, now those boys are BIG. lol

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@ArcaneDesires:
Hehehe. Sometimes they are just meant to be
I'm just glad there was such an awesome sculpt aout there. Nope, didn't thin out the eyewelts. I'm considering it but SafrinDoll Eyes apparently fit him rather well Well... I never really had a problem with their eyes with any dolls to be honest. Looking forward to ordering his right ones.
Ah, if you are scared, why not get one of these balls in the right size intended for sanding. Then you have perfect control on just how much you sand, opposed to a dremel or something.

Aaah! Right :3
The Granado was unfortunately (?) too built in my case. Looking forward to seeing him whole
Wow. I only know one EID in person and he's... huge. And massive. And heavy ^^°
But I'm pretty sure Granado's Titan size could top that ^^°

@vadafade: Thanks -^^- I'm so glad my first BJD friend in the area encouraged me to try and do my own face-ups. It's thanks to her support and being able to ask her 1000 things that I keep getting better and better - slowly ;P

Aaah >3< I'm totally looking forward to that Popo body. It looks rather handsome (and so do the boys). Also, supposedly they are rather good poser. Nearly as good as Loongsoul. :3

... I just can't help but snicker everytime at popo. (It's like butt in slang german XD) I wonder what it means in their language ;P

Soo... What's your Min-head, soon to get popo-body, going to be? :3 Character wise?

 

Snowy Ah ok gotcha. But yeah, I wanna put Eyeco eyes in him and since they are fairly flat, they simply will not show up unless I thin those eye wells out a good bit! Darn you Lionel for having such thick eyewells! hehe But I was definitely considering getting one of those, just I'm kinda scared of those kinda things too. I've never done any modding on any of my dolls and only recently been brought out of my shell in terms of lightly sanding all over my dolls faces to remove some of the shine they have before giving them a face up. lol

Those Granado bodies are pretty built aren't they? But yeah the boy I'm creating is a pretty big, buff guy so it had to be a large body. I originally planned an actual EID boy from head to toe for this character, but Lionel was the more appropriate choice. XD The body shape of that one wasn't quite right for what I had in mind though, so even if I could have an EID body for Lionel it'd be a no on that part anyway. There are only a few bodies I like that are even close to this guy, but Granado wins out. As far as EID's go, yeah my boy is a beast all right, but that Titan body is a total monster. He beats EID by a long mile I think! haha

Popo always makes me giggle though. I just hear or read that word and I can't help but laugh. hehe

 

XD That's really funny! Never heard about that before :3

I don't think it's weird at all. After all I used to collect anime / video game figures - and I bought those who I liked visually and didn't necessarily knew. But giving them a personality/character helps a lot when deciding on what the face-up is supposed to look like and also helps with choosing colors and style of clothing :3 That's mainly why pretty much all of my characters have a personality - and then later develop a story of their own - wether I want themto or not!

But yeah ;P I'm pretty sure he'll jump you and throw his personality at you as well, once he's done and finished :3 Dito for name.

My SDs are set in a sort of apocalypse world based on the game 'The last of us' and developed further for my own means. Lionel aka Keldrean is a former soldier who knew the world before the weird plant-zombie-mutation epidemic broke out. He's had his fair share of wars and when he left the military (partly due the injury on his face, partly through an injury on one of his knees, that makes him limp slightly) he was convinced the end of the world would soon be upon them (because of nuclear war) and thus prepared himself accordingly (getting some sort of bunker, hoarding canned food and water, getting an air and water filter thingy, etc.).
That much for backstory. His personality is rather ... well... distant, grumpy and practical. He has a soft spot for 'youngings', teens, but especially kids.
I'm curious to see how things will develop in the group ^^ With him, if all my SDs are home, I currently have 10 'players' in the setting -^^-

@ArcaneDesires: Ugh. I totally get what you mean. I had that problem with another doll before. Also, one reason for widdening his eyes is because I actually want to see the eyes I put into him.

Your dolls have a shine? That sounds kinda odd. Maybe someone sprayed too much sealer onto them before?

Yes -^^- I'm getting a Granado Davon on the 64cm body for a different character :3 For him it works out perfectly well, but Keldrean, while built, is not THAT buff :3

XD I totally believe that. I'll see how I'll do with Lionel being to (darn) big. I hope it doesn't open the forbidden door into the next size thought ^^°
I'd love to get a popodoll thought.
Which reminds me...

@vadafade: Where did you order the body and how long is it supposed to take? Cause the official page of popo, where I wanted to check out some pics, is currently down, I believe.

 

Snowy, I'd think it was a sealer thing to, if not for the fact that even brand new dolls straight from the company have it. I don't mean like super glossy shine or anything, but just that smooth, polished top layer of resin, like... well normal dolls really. It's just that my friend mentioned one of my dolls looked a little shiny when we went to spray it and I realised my Lionel's resin was too smooth after we'd very lightly sanded the other doll, so we did him too. I really like the effect it gives, more fleshy than the smooth resin of before. But it hasn't ruined them at all, it was the lightest sanding ever and I love the effect it's produced! XD As far as Lionel's eyes, yeah I'd really like to see the eyes I put in him too. I've considered paying someone to mod my boys eyes open a little more too, but I'm worried it won't look as super angry as Cato needs to then. I'm stuck on what to do! But thinning out the darned eyewells is definitely happening either way. XD

Vadafade, I'll just be over here laughing my POPO off about that whole thing now. haha Sorry, couldn't resist. XD But oh ok, well it's good to know they are still in business, I was really confused when I saw Alice and Mint On no longer selling them. I love dealing with Christina though, she's so lovely and helpful. Can't wait to see your body when it gets here! Hope the time passes fast for you. XD

 

All this talk of eyewell thinning and the like to actually see the eyes in the head... I do wish Khale's eyes would show up better than they currently do. Unless the lighting is juuuuust right, they tend to look like deep, dark spots in his face, which is weird as they're really an electric blue colour. I can't even buy another pair in maybe a smaller size as they were the defaults from another doll (I think I know which one, but I'm not 100% sure) and I don't think that company sells eyes separately.

 

Iron_Dog So is it a Leeke thing for the thick eyewells then? I thought perhaps it was just a Lionel thing, but what you described just there is exactly what I'm worried about with Cato, especially since the eyes I want, even though they are a nice light blue, are very low dome. I think before I attempt a face up for him, I'll sort his eyewells out. It's bugging the heck out of me just how thick those wells are. He's a gorgeous sculpt but I cannot get any eyes, no matter what style to show up in his eye wells properly because of the incredibly thick lids. Khale does look gorgeous with those eyes though! I adore him so mcuh!

 

It may well be. Along with their habit of hot gluing in the default eyes and having the Knot O' Doom (tm) in the head. Seriously, I can't take Khale's head off unless I cut the elastic and completely re-string him because the knot won't fit through the neck/head opening and they left maybe 1/2" of elastic ends beyond the knot. There was also a lot of... colourful language used when I went to change his default eyes (which were nice, but not what his character needed) to the ones in his head now and discovered his defaults were hot glued in place.

The ones in his head right now are 16mm glass and low dome. There's no gaping or anything and I think his defaults are also 16mm, but it's very hard to get them to show up well in photos.

 

Oh wow really? Ok, it's probably a Leekeworld thing then. Huh, that's kinda sucky really. Does make me glad I didn't want a full Lionel doll or anything when they had them back up for sale recently. That sounds like a nightmare and really? They hot glue the default eyes in? I'm glad my boy was like 3rd or so hand and not direct from the company and had already had his eyes changed then. Wow, why would you do that?! That's bad.

I just took another look at Cato and yeah his eyes need to be sorted out. Maybe I'll get someone to open them just a tiny bit some day, but I am definitely going to thin out the eyewell resin of doom! before I get started on his face up. Which sucks, I wanted him fixed up soon, but since it's gonna be a fair while before I get his body, or his custom wig and even longer before I get him his clothing then I suppose it's not so bad. But I would love to have his face up done soon at least, because I'm so excited to have this guy and I've done nothing with him. *sadface*

 

I hear that if you purchase direct from Leeke, you can request that they not hot glue the eyes in but I can't confirm that. I won Khale as a fullset in a charity raffle at DollNorth a couple of years ago so I had no say in how he came to me (not that I'm complaining *grins*). There was somebody else in this thread (or the previous one) who had a full doll from Leeke and they had the Knot O' Doom (tm) in their boy's head, too. They needed to remove the head for a face-up so they had no choice but to cut the elastic to get his head off.

I can't speak about other Leeke dolls regards the hot gluing of the eye (maybe it's only for fullsets?) as my OD Tae Vampire came to me third? fourth? hand through the MP here. I would hope that they don't hot glue those eyes as they are like 6mm and that would be a pure nightmare to try and change.

 

@vadafade: Oooh! I love dealing with Christina -^^- I think she is one of the best, most reliable retailers around And she's very awesome to arrange layaway with I'm already a regular for most stuff. Actually I either go via the MP, the company or her :3
Good to know that her contact with Popo is still good and running. I think Popo might have a language barrier / communication problem with the other two (MoC and Alice) from what I heard.

2 months is a good time :3 *nods*

@ArcaneDesires: Well, some do spray it for safetly even if they don't get a face-up. And if the temperatures aren't favourable - especially when it comes to MSC - there might be side-effects. The only other thing I can think of are certain environmental-resins. Those tend to be sometimes a little shiney layer. But yeah :3
Sometimes one of those little white dirt-rubber thingies can help with that as well. (Well, those ARE very fine sanding tools, so... yeah ^^°)

Yes, it's better to let a pro handle this in some cases. Me, I'm too insane in most cases ^^° (I was barelly a half year into the hobby when I made my first massive mods and half-built and hybrided a doll)
But I think I'll try to sand the eyes a little as well. The eyes are kept too far in the back for my taste. If I work by hand I shouldn't run into the danger of ruining the face-up either :3

@Iron_Dog: Grats on your lucky win -^3^-
Those are rather nice eyes. I agree it's a shame if you can't see them properly. Sanding definitely will aid with that, I think.
I think one of my boys has similar eyes like him - but in dark green :3 Got them from a friend thought. We both think they are from Luts.


I'm kinda glad I bought the head second head. No glued in eyes or Knot of Doom (tm).

Now if only my impatience would go somewhere else. *squirming around waiting for body*
Doesn't help I got really awesome photobackgrounds today.. *can't wait to do some shooting*

 

If I was anywhere near brave I might try to do something. But I'm not and I'd be terrified of ruining something about his face-up since it is one of the fullset face-ups (and it's perfect for his character).

 

Hello guys!
I just received my LW Mihael back from his face-up artist(Gothdoll) today!



My classy dude, Dexter Emerson. He&#8217;s so gorgeous!
He&#8217;s a Leekeworld Mihael hybrided on a Magical-doll body.
The largest doll I owned so far ;w;

I sincerely apologize for the long post

Story Time:

LW Mihael is a long-time Grail doll of mine, &#8216;Grail doll&#8217; being that I didn&#8217;t think I would own him cause 1) he&#8217;s huge 2) he&#8217;s sold out on leekeworld&#8217;s site and expensive on 2nd hand market. But after owning a Delf, I know that SD isn&#8217;t that scary at all AND lo&#8217; and behold, Leekeworld was re-selling their sold-out dolls so I quickly nabbed a Mihael head. I always loved other collector&#8217;s broody Mihaels and at first, that&#8217;s what I wanted, a pissed off emo murderer looking Mihael(haha) but I changed my mind in the end and went for a gentler/bookish Mihael. So glad I did though, he&#8217;s so precious ;w;

Another Story Time:

While Gothdoll was finishing up Dexter&#8217;s face-up, I couldn&#8217;t help but notice that she had a Magical-body for sale, being that I was looking for a cheapo, slim, short body for Dex, I asked her to tried Dex&#8217; head on the body and surprisingly, the proportions and resin match looked pretty good so I bought the body from her.

 

Ahhh welcome Bulletsbanq! I always love seeing your beautiful dolls and I'm glad you managed to snag a Mihael. I love that sculpt myself and he looks wonderful! Such a cute, but still grumpy face. Those eyes are beautiful in him too. He's lovely!

Iron_Dog Honestly I'm terrified of doing it myself and Cato doesn't even have a face up! *fail* But he needs this done I feel.

In my news though, looks like all the bodies I'd love to put my Lionel head on are going to be too big and the one I know of that does kinda work, looks pretty nice to me, but isn't tall enough! I might have to bite the bullet and settle for a shorter body, or I might go back to the slightly less perfect head I originally planned for my Cato. I'll be keeping my Lionel either way though! I love his seriously angry look. hehe

 

Well :3 Practicing with some self-made stuff really helps. But if you really do handwork and not use a motorized tool you don't really run into the danger of ruining anything, I think. I've been thinking about using my tool on his eye-holes, but decided against it ^^° I'm good with it, but... I'll go the longer, slower and more precise rout with less danger...

@bulletsBANQ: Grats on getting your boy back He's certainly somethign else :3 Also... Is it my monitor or does hia hair have a slight greenish shimmer?



Also: My Keldrean's (Lionel) Mirodoll body shipped out!
Had a short moment of panic here, cause I don't have anything in SD17 size, but then calmed down. I got my sewing machine and enough fabric to cloth a whole resin army, if it came down to it >:3 He'll be naked for a short while, but I don't really mind.... ;9