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Jointing How to sculpt magnetized joints

Sep 10, 2021

    1. I am at the final stretch of my digital sculpting phase- YAY! That means that I need to finally hollow them out and make channels which has lead me to a bit of trouble- how DO you attach joints with magnets to the rest of the body? currently I have the wrist joint attached to the hand with no issues, but when it comes to how the wrist would attach to the rest of the body I don't really have any ideas. I can't think of a way that the s hook would connect to the wrist while still allowing the wrist to move.

      This is probably a basic question, but I got nothing!

      While I'm here, anyone know how large the opening of the neck for the s hook should be? Sorry for all the basic questions!
       
    2. fairyland which has magnetic hands, has one end on the wrist for the magnet and then the other end has an opening for an s hook i believe so its totally doable
       
    3. Aah that's what I had in mind, but do you know how they still make the wrists movable?
       
    4. im not sure since i havent unstrung one of my dolls but i imagine a restringing video for them might show u what you need
       
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    5. Thank you so much! I'll try looking one up
       
    6. As far as I know, the wrist part of the fairyland dolls have a regular ball joint, no different from an ordinary strung doll. The only difference is that the wrist and hand are joined by a magnet so the hands can be easily switched out, instead of the wrist and hand being made in one piece, as is the more common method.
      All the movement requiered for posing happens in the ball joint, not in the magnet.
       
    7. Ah that makes much more sense, I was overthinking it! Thank you so much for this, I was trying to next level engineer something that was far simpler than that 8P
       
    8. No sculpting experience, but I’ve got a minifee with these joints. What Lillith says is correct. The part inside the wrist/ankle side is rounded with a notch and an s hook. The side that the magnet is on is flat. You can rotate either the magnet side (if there’s not a notch to lock it in- some dolls have it mine doesn’t) or the hook side, but any angling or other movement happens in the ball joint side. I’ll put some pics under the spoiler

      Showing foot on/off. The feet have a notch to keep them on straight, the wrists do not. Feet are bigger so that’s the majority of these pictures. Some dolls have a notch to keep the part on, some have it to keep the part on straight.
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      View of ball joint on ankle.

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      View of bent wrist joint to show the notch. The notch lets the hook wrap around a resin bar like a normal wrist. There just happens to be a magnet not a hand on the other side.
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      Sorry for any visible cat hair. It’s the back side of a quilt off a doll bed and the fur balls love stealing it.

      On the neck- mine are all a semi-random size I think. Large enough you can draw the elastic up and it can move slightly for posing, but small enough the resin walls stay thick enough to take the tension for the elastic and smaller than the base of the s hook. Or the top slightly bigger than the bottom of the s hook, then it narrows as it gets to the main stringing channel. Two of mine have a plain tube shape and the hook sits on top, another very steeply slopes to the channel to give the s hook a place to sit. It keeps it from denting the resin where it’s visible, if the elastic snaps back for some reason. At least that’s what I could tell from outside. Then there’s the minifee and idk what is going on with her neck connector piece.

      I can’t restring her, but if there’s any other photos you want, Ivy and I would be happy to take some.
       
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    9. These are SUPER useful to me, I can't thank you enough! I don't own a strung bjd of my own (my only girl is a dollfie dream) so these are GREAT! Thank you so much!
       
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    10. No problem. Always happy to help. The magnet parts are great for dressing. I love them.
      I did get another, since you don’t have a strung bjd. It shows what I meant on the resin bar a bit more clearly, in case you haven’t seen it before. The minifees have smaller hooks, but another (non magnetic) doll shows it a bit better. The structure is the same, just bigger because she’s a resinsoul. I put a dotted line about where things would be different. From the right, it’s about the same. Elastic, hook, resin bar/ball joint. At the line is where the end would be for that piece. On the flat surface would be the magnet. Then to the left would be your normal hand or a hand piece that goes over/around the magnet.

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    11. All I have to do is make that bar on the ball joint instead of the hand, much easier than I was imagining! My doll has pretty big hands so I wouldn't want anyone struggling to dress em up, basically everything is detachable on that guy. A little bit of struggle was worth it, again thank you for these references!
       
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