I LOVE Pierre et Gillesand I have set myself a spring project to photograph a homage to them. Now, I have pose and props sorted (it involves LOTS of paper flowers and a semi-clad Saint). However, I'm not so sure about how to achieve that glorious, hallucinogenic Pierre et Gilles lighting and colouring effect. I know that the guys consider their work to be half photo and half painting and reckon that the effect can not be duplicated digitally. However, I don't give up that easily. Does anyone have any ideas on how to light and Photoshop a photo to approximate the effect? Do you think they start out with a monochromatic image and tint all the colour in? How do they retain crisp highlights whilst leaving everything else soft focus? Ooh, the questions... Here are a couple of examples of their work. You can see more on their website here (WARNING: nudity, sacreligion and homoeroticism) .
Mmmmm....that is a lot of post-capture work in software. You're going to need your "brushes" or "textures" photographed - the frames and backgrounds, etc., and then drop those in. The portrait aspect is pretty simple split-lighting, but I'm thinking they might be double or triple exposed and that might even be done in PS. (I think most of this is done in software.) You can double expose digitally by layering copies of the same image exposed at different settings...if your camera won't do it in-camera. Also, these mdels are heavily, heavily "airbrushed" post capture and that's pretty simple. Good luck with your project - I look forward to seeing some results!
You could try stamping with Photoshop for the front decoration(on 2nd layer) and adding on the background deco on another kayer? That way you could erase off the excess on each layer (if need be).. I'm a little hands-on, so.. ^^; But that's how I'd do it..
Now, you see, I hadn't even thought of doing it as layers (yeah. Not only am I a noob with the DSLR, I am now teaching myself Photoshop CS2. Never do things by halves, I say!). Excellent ideas! Can't wait to get started. Just need my mountains of flowers to arrive... Incidentally, Pierre et Gilles don't use digital processing. It is all film photography and airbrushed with a real, live airbrush. Tsk! Purists!
*laughs* You too??? I often refer to myself that way too! And I am right there with you and a HUGE fan of Pierre et Gilles! I didn't discover them until recently though. I agree with the things aforementioned. You will definitely have a lot of photoshop work ahead of you. I cannot wait to see the fruits of your labor! ^_^
i think you might also need a good light source when taking the subject photos, the contrast etc can be edited in photo manipulation software. using photoshop add a layer above the bjd boys and change that layer to soft light (or play around with the different settings) knock the opacity down and using a kinda light flesh tone paint over the top of the boys it will even out the tone and can give them a warm look much like the Pierre et Gilles stuff anyways hope that make sense and helps
Thanks lootysushi. That is very useful and advice. I think I will really have my work cut out for me on this one! Still, it will be a good way to start to learn the ins and outs of Photoshop. My mountain of flowers has arrived so I will be starting to set this up soon. It will all take some time, so any suggestions in the meantime would be very welcome.
Hmmmm.....well....we used to have no choice in the matter back in the day. *feels old* But, hell, why would anyone spend that money/time/energy on hand processing when it can be done digitially? I'm really curious to see how your experiments will turn out. My suggestion is the same as before - take multiple EXACT images with different exposures....
no worries!!! i think my only other tip who be to use the different blurr affects on photoshop or smudging to get the blurred look of the flowers if its hard to do with the camera you might have to cut the flowers on to a difffernt layer or make a mask selction of them !! if i think of anything else ill post on here good luck im sure it will turn out well good
Photoshop-wise, I would probably set one duplicate layer to "soft light," as lootysushi said, to get the very dramatic contrast, then make another duplicate layer on top, use the "Diffuse Glow" filter (under the Distort submenu, I think) and set that to "screen" to make the unfocused, blown-out highlights, decreasing the opacity as needed. As soon as I read "Pierre et Gilles," I thought DIFFUSE GLOW! XD
i would do it with layers too, i pretty much do everything with layers :P try out different settings like soft light or dodge and see what you like best.
Thanks Absynthe. Having had a bit more experience with Photoshop since my first post, this is becoming a slightly less daunting prospect. I have tried some of the suggestions already with other of my photos and they do go some of the way to producing the effect. I don't think there is any way that I can get out of doing A LOT of airbrushing. tho'. Has anyone tried producing this sort of effect? If so, can I see the results, pretty please? I'm STILL waiting on the last of my props then I shall set a day aside to get to work on this.
What about experimenting with your camera's Macro for the actual pictures, at different distances? That may create natural blurring close to what you're looking for if you can get the right angle/distance.
Thanks for the suggestion, Mamo. Unfortunately, my camera does not have a macro function and I have no macro lens as yet (on whish list). It is not so much the blur that is giving me pause for thought (I can do blur, whether I want to nor not!). It is more the combination of blurred, bright surfaces and sparkly highlights, combined with dreamlike colouring. So, it's finding a way to get all these things together that is giving me grief.
Well, update. Still waiting on some props for the actual shoot, but it is giving me a chance to try out some of the ideas posted here. This one is using lootysushi and Emera's suggestions. I used soft light, diffuse glow and lots and lots of blur. I also increased the saturation to try to get that over-airbrushed look. It is certainly starting to look a bit like it, but I still want to know how to get those little twinkles that make the P&G photos look so magical. I tried erasing a bit of the blur on areas of highlight, but it made no difference. Stronger lighting, perhaps?
Looks like you're close, but I think that the saturation is key... the first example of theirs looks like it was desaturated partially while the second looks like it was completely desaturated and then color was added.
Yes, I think you are right. They give the feel of those old, hand-tinted photos. Those certainly started out in black and white. I will try that when I have a minute.
Well, here is another go, done very quickly over a glass of wine, so no layers, desaturation or anything complicated like that, just soft light, lots of blur and a glitter brush.
Wow! I have been checking this thread occassionally (but am generally too ignorant to add anything useful) because I'm a big P&G fan and had contemplated much the same homage. Looks like you're getting closer!
Try using a blurred copy of of the original picture on another layer and set it to "overlay". That might give you those pin prick lights you're wanting. To sharpen individual features, erase into a mask layer on the blur-overlay layer. that might give you something closer to what you're looking for. You can do the slight desaturate/saturate effect they're doing by either making another layer and setting it to saturate and paint in grey(to desaturate) or a color(to add saturation). OR you can use hue/saturation/color on your overlay layer to adjust the entire image and effects.
Thanks guys. Now, Batchix, I tried that idea of a blurred overlay layer and a bit of saturation and it is getting closer, but I am still struggling to get those highlights. My glitter still looks like a bad case of dandruff. I am wondering if the brush was bright enough to start out with. It might be better using real, brightly lit glitter (although I wasn't going to start sprinkling around my garden for this shoot!). I will experiment and report back. And here is the only subtly different overlay/desaturate version.
Definitely layers, layer modes, and layer masks! For the glitters I'd try different star brushes at different sizes, on their own layer, of course! Everything gets it's own layer, so it can be changed or deleted later. You can sometimes pull star points out of a circle with the smudge tool, also. You can use shades of gray painted on a layer mask to delete some but not all of the blur to get more detail back in certain areas. I think the blur on the glitters is partly what is making those not quite work - they may need to have a bit more defined edges.
Duplicate your original image into a new layer - then do a 'HIGHPASS' filter (Found under 'OTHER' filters) over the new layer and experiment with blending modes (try 'overlay' or 'soft light') for this new layer with the original layers. You can do a soft blur on the HIGHPASS layer to make it softer. You can get a very hyper real image very like P&G with this. Here is an example of 2 images treated in this way (I censored it for DoA & Photobucket).