Faceups How to add paint or pastels to an existing faceup?

Yeah, it's possible, I've done something similar before... but I'd be just repeating what the others have said.

Although, you can always ask Dollmore of a custom face-up, I believe it's no extra charge. Just give them a clear description or a picture of what you want exactly, and they'll do it up for you.

 

Do you think the best way to do that would be to draw a picture, or what ..? Just be very discriptive? I'm afraid it will come and it won't be what I want. ;-;

 

Being very descriptive is a good start. You can also look at pictures of other face-ups on their site and tell them things like "I like the eyebrows on 'xxx' doll." or "Can the lips be darker/lighter like 'xxx' doll?" Many times doll companies will work with you to get the best face up for your doll.

Just remember to be incredibly polite when asking. If you go in all demanding and such you won't get very far. ^-^

 

Volks offered faceup enhancement class last month. So yes you can do slight modifications to existing faceups.

If it's just darkening brows and reshaping with acrylic paint you won't need to remove lashes. Also if it's darkening or glossing lips. You can even darken cheek bluch but if you want to seal the blush then you will need to removethe lashes

 

Yeah, that sounds like the best way to do it. After looking at pictures on K-doll, I totally want a faceup similar to that XD

 

I need to touch up the inner eyeliner on my Juri (silly eyelashes took a bit of it with them when they started to fall out). Do you think it would be okay to just get black acrylic, touch it up and then use a brush on matte coat? Its only a little itty bitty spot on the inside part of the eye...

I just cant see taking the lashes all the way out and coating the whole face again (plus tracking down MSC and hoping that it does not cloud up if there happens to be something on her face that should not be that I cannot see with the naked eye).

 

Yes, that really shouldn't be a problem.

 

I would like to give my beauty a beauty mark - you know, a mole, but...call it something prettier. Like mine. Like Marilyn Monroe's.

Here are the two problems:

1) I've never customized a doll before, not even TRIED to do a face-up or anything. I don't have MSC or whatever we're supposed to use, and frankly, I don't want to buy it to make a dot the size of a pinhead and keep it there.

2) Again...I've never done it before. D: What if I mess it up? I'm nervous to try.

Any tips, hints, ideas? Help? n__n;;

 

You could buy one of these stick-on moles.They are adhesive and meant for human skin, they may fall off when they get old, but you can buy them in like packs of 10. They are meant for humans, and maybe a bit larger than you want. You could cut them maybe?

check out http://www.hottiedots.com

 

You could get a watercolor pencil, sharpen it, and just dot your doll's face-- then go over it a few times to make it dark. Just don't press too hard or else you'll go through the coating.

Or you could get a little, little brush, steady your hand and hold the brush perpendicular to your doll's face and do a tiny dot. I think the dot might look better if you get a q-tip with the pointy end and put a little brown or grey-ish skin tone pastel on it, and then go over your dot very, very lightly so that it fades into your doll's skin instead of just being a dot on the face.

If you don't touch your doll's face much, I don't think you need to coat it. But a quick spritz should be fine-- if you're worried about the gloss going matte from the coat, you can just cover the glossy areas with a little bit of napkin. Just keep your coats light.

 

I did the beautymark on my girl by taking just a tiny bit of acrylic paint on a small paintbrush and making a dot, just like chienism said.

If you mess up, it's easy to wipe off and try again! Took me a couple tries before I was happy. Once it's dry, it should stay put unless you're constantly rubbing or touching your doll's face.

Good luck!

 

I use the teeny brush and acrylic method too. My BC Pepe,Trip has one that covers a chip in her upper lip

 

OMG that's quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever seen.

Don't worry too much about messing up the existing faceup, it's coated and it should be fine as long as you're gentle. You probably don't need to coat it afterwards, either, as it's just a little dot and you probably aren't touching the faceup too much anyway. If it does happen rub off, it should be easy to reapply. Good luck, and make sure you post pictures of the result.

And Lulu, that's a great idea to cover a small flaw/chip in the faceup with a beauty mark. It eliminates the problem of color matching. *makes mental note in case of future mishap*

 

I'm thinking about adding moles/beauty spots
I think a good way of thinking where to put the marks is to look at other peoples...my bf has one on the bottom of his lip which is quite cute

 

Thank you SO much!! 3 Thanks for the quick response and easy solutions. n__n I'll post pics!

 

1. I want to remove the eyebrows from my doll and re-paint them as I want them without ruining the eye makeup. Is this possible?

2. I would also like to remove the cheek blushing on my doll. Should I try to do this? Is there a high chance that it may become blotchy?

3. Can I add onto my doll's existing eye makeup? I would like to thicken the eyeliner/mascara and add some colour to the upper lid. Can I do this without ruining the original faceup, especially if I mess up and want to take it off?

Also, any tutorials you guys can send over this way would be very helpful. I can't believe this forum doesn't have a tutorial database! We should start one

Thank you!
Tuna, Vaith & Melon​

 

A keyword search in this forum for "eyebrows" will find you the answer to your first question and the answer to your second question can be extrapolated from those threads as well.

A search for "Temporary" will find you information about enhancing your doll's faceup without ruining it, permanent faceup enhancements can be done as long as you are prepared to remove eyelashes and add additional coats of MSC and gloss.

This subforum has only recently been assigned a moderator to clean it up, rest assured links to faceup tutorials are in the works.

 

Thank you! I tried doing some keywords, but I must have been using the wrong ones.

 

Somebody infiltrated my header 8 u8

 

Yep, that was me. My primary job as Zone Moderator for this subforum is cleaning up spelling, clarifying titles to make them more easily searchable, and organizing the existing information. Since this subforum is primarily an information archive, I try to keep the titles as clinical as possible so that others can easily determine the exact content of the thread.

 

I plan on eventually working up the nerve to add a red eyeshadow to a doll I plan on ordering in these next few weeks to get her a "tired" look. I don't want to mess with the default faceup, just enhance it.

How would I go about doing this? I plan on buying pastels and MSC from VolksUSA. Is there a way I could just brush it around her eyes and maybe spray the sealant just on the parts I touched up? Will this cause any weird blotches?

Sorry I am so new at this I do not even know where to begin.

 

i 'touched' up my morimoths faceup once, i sealed the entire head, i think it's a good i dea to spay the whole head, just in case the sealent causes a slight color change.

 

I would use water color pencils.Mainly because you can press hard or light to get different effects with the color, where as an oil pastel is just one very solid color and very messy to use.

 

You shouldn't be using oil pastels at all - the oil will stain the resin=(

You can touch it up with chalk pastels, shield from the eyelashes down ( should don't want sealer on your eyelashes), and then seal.

 

remember to remove eyelashes! I heard MSC will make them sticky n gunky.

 

Wow thank you guys. I'm still so nervous that when I do this I will totally mess it up. o_o I don't plan on using oils because it is too much of a risk and I don't want anything to happen to a brand new doll lol

 

I'm assuming you can do the same for eyebrows then?

Like add on eyebrows? I'm thinking about getting a pet doll that comes with painting, but I want some eyebrows on him...

 

Yes, you can do the same with eyebrows. Just remember to cover (or as mentioned above) remove the eyelashes before sealing.

 

How would one go about editing an existing face up?

Like, how would you add eye shadow to a girl with a factory face up?

do you just like use sealer and add on?

thanks

 

Hiya, I ordered a Kid Delf Boy TTORI from luts and I was wondering if It would be possible to add freckles to his existing faceup? I've read through the thread and I'm worried about the gloss and the Sealer and the eyelashes and such.
Would it be possible to draw them on without using sealer? I plan on doing 'em with water color pencils so... I want to just add a some scattered freckles on his cheeks and nose, without harming the existing faceup. Hm.. Advice? :-;

 

You could probably try it with watercolor pencil, but my current struggles and limited experience so far suggests that you could easily end up with too-dark single blotches. It might be hard to be convincing with it. Also, if you use too heavy a first spray coat of sealer like MSC, the watercolor dots will dissolve and run. You'd have to use a very light hand for a couple of coatings.
I had the good fortune to watch a couple of faceup artists talk while working, and they went over a few things like this. (I know them over on live journal, don't happen to have it here on DOA, my apologies!) The really expert freckle-queen was using a tiny 20/0 size brush and airbrush acrylic paint (which is already very fluid) *thinned further* with acrylic medium to make it more transparent. Normally the freckle color she'll use will be a slightly lighter match to the paint she sprays on for the shadowing on cheeks and eyesockets, but she was able to match a pastel-blushed head with paint with no problem. She dotted the freckles on and smudged them off with her little finger into irregular shapes so none were exactly alike. She also rotated the brush to make sure the dot pattern was different. Yes, rilly srsly dotting asnd then blotting every single one at a time. She also uses different patterns for different types of freckling--some get large single mole-like dots for some types of folks, she'll use blotchy coppery ones for others, and then sand-fine stippling for folks with a more consistent, even freckle-pattern.
Some of this is a knowledge of how different people's freckles look in real life.
Which I kind of like, it means the artist has been looking at all kinds of different people with interest, not just pale and interesting pretty boys.
Hope this helps!

 

very helpful thread.

 

nevermind; repeat

 

Is it possible to temporarily add to an existing faceup?

For Halloween I want Cullen to go as L from Death Note, but I'm not sure how to add the black under his eyes without damaging his current faceup. Any ideas?

 

I would suggest water color pencil. It wipes right off with water.

 

Oh! That's a good idea. You don't think it would stain the underlying pastels?

 

If the current faceup is sealed good, then no, it shouldn't stain with watercolour pencils. The medium shouldn't be able to seep past the sealer of the existing faceup.

I had some issues with a watercolor penil being too sharp once though, and some of the lines still wouldn't remove with water, so I took an eraser to it. The first time I did it, no issues, the second time I did it, the friction brought some of the sealer with it, so I had to respray him. I ended up doing his faceup over again later, but it wasn't too much of an issue.

All in all, the watercolor pencil shouln't be an issue, just don't push it on too hard or get it too dark, and it should come off with water.

 

I would use black or blue-black pastel instead. Shouldn't stain and will come off easily.

 

I looked around for any answers on this, and it's slightly vague, so I thought I'd ask, so I don't completely ruin Yuuri.

So, he just has his Luts face up, and I want to add more to it, but I'd prefer to keep the one he has, and just go from there.

I know you're supposed to apply multiple coats of MSC, so, why couldn't I just add on to him, without removing everything? No? Yes?

Thanks for anyones help in advance.

 

i did with my bbb ariel.. i didnt want to whipe everything i just wanted to enhance it a bit. so i sprayed with testors then started where i wanted and kept spraying.. but know that you probably can never get the original faceup back ^_^; once u whipe its gone right?

 

I did my Pukisha's full body blushing over the top of an existing faceup, and it worked just fine. I did hit her with an extra layer of MSC before starting, just to be sure (the current blushing is strongly colored), but then went ahead and went over the top of everything. The old faceup is still visible through the blushing.

If I decide to take it off and change it in the future, though, then everything will be gone.

 

Thanks, Piffie and Vicemage, I didn't think there'd be a problem, but others imput is always nice. ^_^

I don't mind if I have to redo everything, I'd just rather have someone to go off of for my first time.

 

I just got a AR Diana Pride and its my first one with a default face up. I loved it, but wanted to lighten the eyebrows and darken around the eyes so I sprayed with MSC and added to it and resealed it and reglossed the lips. As the others said when/if you take it off it may ruin the old one. But! So long as you spray a coat of MSC and let that dry first if you mess up just use water to gently wash off the mistakes. Scrub too hard and you'll damage the original face up.

 

Hey! I just wanted to make sure there is nothing I'm missing. I definitely know that I CAN add to an existing face-up and everything.

But let's say I had a Littleféee Shiwoo with his default face-up. Right now, his lips would be..... brown and sort of green-ish. If I want to re-paint his lips (I usually use pastel) would I have to do strange color mixing or would I just use the color I want straight off the sticks.

It may sound strange but I've read that on a Tan doll, you have to be careful with some color or otherwise they will look like an other colors. So I was wondering if painting a new colors (red) over a totally diffrent one (greenish brown) would recquire extra attentions.

 

Hum, I don't think so... I think the issue with the tan dolls is pretty much the same as the one a person with olive skin or black skin would have when using makeup. Some colors bring out certain accents in other colors when they are next to them. Did you want to 1) shoot the lips with MSC to "remove" the gloss and give grip to the pastels, 2) use the pastels as you usually do, 3) shoot with MSC to fix, and 4) gloss? If so, I think the MSC coat between the existing lip paint and the pastels you plan to add would soften to actual color of the lips enough that they wouldn't be a factor anymore.

True, it's possible to add to an existing faceup, but if you really like the rest of it, I wouldn't advise it. There is always the risk of the MSC being uneven (make sure the nozzle is clean before shooting, and shoot on a surface you don't care about first)... I know it's been the case on Yuki when I was new to the hobby and added the blush on her cheeks. She has this anoying "spot" of MSC, like a bigger dropplet, on her chin. When it was dry, I softly tried to sand it, but there is still a still color discoloration and if I start looking at it I go...

 

I promise I'll be careful ^.^

But my mom has stopped complaining about it for now so it's not a real emergency anymore.

 

So, now fully knowing that adding darker shadows to my boys existing eye make-up won't be a problem, I do have to ask...
Has anyone ever had an issue with spraying Testor's over Dream of Doll sealent? I know at the the beginning of the thread someone mentioned Luts sealent turning milky, but I wanted to know if the same would happen with my oy (he's a fullset U) or if I'm all cleared to paint away...

 

I haven't really found people mentionning this subject, so I am posting here...
There is a lot of information about doing a face-up from scratch. Is there anything special you would need to know if you want to just customize an existing face up, add things, change things - without removing it?
Like adding blush over existing blush or changing eye/lip makeup?
Is there anything to be careful about?
Is the use of MSC the same as for a from-blanck face up?

Thank you=)
And sorry if it already has been referenced somewhere...

 

@Bluoxyde,
I think the rule is, that you can add stuff, but if you want to remove part of an existing face-up, you'll have to remove the outer sealant also. Adding stuff is like just like giving the face-up another "layer."
But if you want to change things, like take off some blushing, I'm not quite sure. Sorry if this wasn't very helpful!

@omgitsliekcaity,
Pretty much all default face-ups come sealed, but if you're worried still, just spray the head with a few light coats of MSC. I don't think they rub off too easily, but be very careful not to touch or rub it. Also, be careful with Magic Erasers and alcohol when cleaning the head, because they can remove face-ups.

And I had a question myself. How can you remove blushing from the crevice between the lips? I can't seem to get that stuff out ._.

 

I don't know if anyone has asked this previously, but assuming my boy's faceup was sealed and I decide to paint over it, screw up, then use a magic eraser to get rid of the screw up, would the previously sealed faceup come off? or would the unsealed paint over just come off?
I just want to make 100% sure. I'm not a very good faceup artist and I don't want to have to redo my boy's entire face....or pay someone else to.

 

Thank you for your reply^^
Actually I wold want to add stuff but I wonder if all teh faceup is overpaintable, like for example if there's black outlines around the eyes you can't really change it by painting over - the black prevails even through layering, doesn't it?

Did anyone try customizing a default faceup?

 

I searched and couldn't find reference if this could/would/should be done. I don't like my new girls black brows. Just wondered if it was possible to just draw/paint over them with either pastels or acrylics or would that be too heavy of paint on it. I don't mind them being dark (just don't want 'em black) and thought maybe if I could feather some dark brown into them it would lighten them up without having to go thru the whole process of redoing the face-up. I've never done anything with any dolls face before (except maybe as a child coloring with ink on a Barble - LOL).

Any suggestions, tips, preferences, ideas on this?

TIA for anyone's help for a clueless newbie!

 

If you do not have any experience on painting a BJD, you shouldn't try. It'll be a disaster without some bit of practice. Starting to practice now is a good idea though! Black is a dark color over all. You could try to get a light brown pastel and gently rub it and then seal the dolls face. A light brown or brown would do the job. Your choice of which brown you want..I haven't tried this but from working with pastels it should turn into a brown shade.

You need to do some research on what kind of pastels to use and appropriate brushes and pastel techniques.

I'd personally coat the head lightly with MSC. Cover the whole head except the eyebrows because pastels are MESSY. Then lightly apply the pastel into the eyebrows then seal it up again.

Tips are all over the forum
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174425
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245917

 

I'll bump the thread with a simillar question, but more difficult: is it possible to change Dark eye-brows to a lighter color by making a light acryllic paint strockes over it?Without removing any of the existing faceup?
thanks:3

 

Bluoxyde, You could do that, but when you're doing the actual "acrylic hairs" The paint it thinned, despite if it appears black. But thinning the paint gives it a more natural feathery effect. And if you're using a lighter shade it will also have to be thinned and the dark shade will bleed through.

I'm not sure what you're asking, but lightening each individual hair would be very difficult with acrylics. If you have experience with eyebrows you could try it.. Using a light brown acrylic paint.

When I'm doing eyebrow work, I will apply pastel over the acrylics to blend in the hairs and overall color. Adding a light pastel does lighten the acrylic. So applying a very light brown or even white will lighten those eyebrows and those hair, but i'm not exactly sure how it will turn out.

Why I'd advise sealing the face before you tried anything or better yet someone who's actually done this.

 

NietSage thanks for the input and addtional links! Much appreciated!!!

 

I've done something like this very recently. I didn't quite go lighter, so much as slight alter the colour tone of the brows. I did this because after putting on the finishing sealant layers, I decided that there needed to be a bit more depth to the brows. As NietSage mentioned, blushing over the brows with pastels will help lighten brows some. I used a colour similar to what I used for blushing his skintone, then sealed again. You could possibly get away with not sealing again, but I'm a bit paranoid about these things.

After that, I took a watercolour pencil and drew in a few lines for detail. I would caution against doing too many of these lines or too heavily. You stand to lose what detail you do have and just make the brows look like heavy, blocky lines. *has experience on that, unfortunately...* For dark brown brows, I would suggest just tracing lightly over a few of your existing hairlines to give it a sort of "highlight" effect. You could use either acrylics or watercolour pencils -- I have more experience and better control over pencils than brushes, so it was easier for me to use them. Plus, I could get the "lead" as sharp as I needed for tiny lines.

Hope this helps some! Good luck.

 

Is modifying an existing face-up possible?

My doll is incoming and she's coming with a face-up which looks cute, but the problem is her lips. I think they are too dark for my taste.

Is it possible to remove just her lip color (and the msc on that area) to replace with a new color and coat it again with msc?

The main problem that I think I'm going to have is the uneven-ness of the coated head.

Is there a safe solution out of this?

 

I touched up a factory face up once. I didn't like the eyebrows much and I kinda didn't have a choice as the MSC was starting to chip and he had a bald spot on his nose. I took 91% Alcohol and Nail polish remover (making sure to wipe the areas clean again) and removed what I wanted, which was everything but the eye makeup. And it turned out OK. I can fish around for some before and after pix if you want. But I would say yes it is possible.

 

Thanks for the fast reply!

When you mean by this, did you mix them together? Or applied separately?
I'm not really familiar with 91% Alcohol, I only know the 75% rubbing alcohol.