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Hiriko In Pieces... (Castrophe Occured *cry*)

Oct 3, 2006

    1. Here's some (bad) shots of the torso I got done today. It's not baked, so the Sculpey is being evil and all squishy like. I'll have to work on the doll more over the four day weekend comeing up.

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      I have one of the legs done... but I'm not too happy with it. I'm going to redo it and make the other soon.
      So... whatcha think? I love serious critiques! (for what you can get out of the picture's lighting...:doh Oh! And this doll will be my first ever- both owned and made!)

      --- Oct. 5 Update

      Well.... I got all of the pieces baked aside from the head. I now know how hard Sculpey can get... because I burned it. I left all of the pieces in for 15 mins, when I should have check at 8... :(

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      Maybe I should just trash it because most of it isn't salvagable. I don't have any money to make molds, even crappy ones, so I can't do that. I'm going to try sanding some of the burnt off the torso- maybe I can salvage it.

      Tried to salvage. Ain't gonna happen. T______T
       
    2. I love the stomach muscle definition, i always had trouble with the bottom and front bottom area sculpting, but looks like you've cracked it!
       
    3. I think it looks wonderful :)
       
    4. I also like her muscle.
      Sculpting muscles is my weakness....
      All my dolls are baby fat....
      I hope I could sculpt a mature doll one day.
       
    5. hmm...doesn't look to bad. I'm currently making molds of my doll for casting. If you want you can send it over and i can make molds for you for free (i'm a little obsessed with mold making....hehe).
       
    6. Hey, we're sort of in the same boat, my doll will also be my first made&owned one. Except I haven't gotten to the baking part yet (and I've been working on her for over two weeks now).

      I'm sorry about what happened:( Are you going to start over? maybe it's a good thing you haven't baked the head yet, heads are the hardest part to make I think. Good luck:)
       
    7. I guess I probably will start over... maybe try and go for the same design. :( I was really proud of it, too.

      Thank you all for the encouragement! ^_^ Guess that means I just have to try again... you know?
       
    8. if the pieces arent deformed and it;s just a color issue, you can coat it. Get some spray gesso to give it a nice sandable surface, sand smooth, and finish it up with some MR White Surfacer 1000 and it'll look like is was almost resin, plus, you wont see the black at all the everything will have a wonderful even tone.

      If you wanted a flesh color, you could find a good color spray paint and use that over the gesso.

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      thats a doll so far coated in that way.
       
    9. Keanna, your sculpting is wonderful!! Definitely go again - how horrible to have this happen because you did wonderful..... but what temperature were you baking at? and how close to the element are the pieces? your temperature should be down around 270 degrees F ---- no way should it get that color - it is a health issue for you, because the polymer clay is toxic when it burns....

      I bake for hours sometimes, and it never gets even close to that color - but the time I was being forgetful and set the oven to 370 - it looked like yours...

      hope to see more pics soon....
       
    10. Patl-I set it to 275, like the box said. The problem was I found that I shouldn't have used a 'baking' pan for the pieces to begin with, along with the fact that none of the actuall clay thickness was 1/4 of an inch. I made another doll, just a 'fer-sheet' doll to try the process again. I got the pieces out at 8 mins this time, but realised anything for baking purposes (pan wise) is out of the question. I just naturally assume it would work.

      What do you guys use to bake anyhow?? :sweat Forgot to ask.

      ---

      Lolipop- Frankly, I've never heard of either of those things... ^_^; While it should like a great idea (and quite possibly I'll do so) where would I find those things? Gresso I'm guessing at Michaels... and the other stuff? Lowes? Home Depot? Hrrrm. *ponderponder*
       
    11. Oh please do her again!! That's fantastic body sculpting there.


      And yes, gesso is a very common item at pretty much any art store. Painters use it to pre-treat canvas before they put oil paint on. And that's the extent of my painting knowledge... but in a family with a lot of painters, gesso is a common word.

      MR doesn't ring a bell, but I'm sure it will with someone. ;)

      Hang in there!!
       
    12. As far as baking...I use a glass casserole dish turned over (baking on the bottom open side to stove shelf). I put my pieces on polyfil (stuffing stuff). I have always read not to use a dish that has sides as it traps the heat. I have also put foil over the tops of very thin parts or parts that stick up higher than the rest ( nose, ear tips etc.)
       
    13. I thought the box said to use glass? I've always used a glass dish.
       
    14. I use small tiles to bake on, and before that I used a glass pie dish...
      That's awful that you're pieces got burnt! Even if you painted over them, would the structure hold, I wonder?
       
    15. Gesso you can get from most art stores, it's a primer for canvases and the like before painting to get a perfect surface. Dick Blick have a spray on one which would cut down on sanding time dramatically.

      Color spray paint you can find at any craft or hobby shop, and Mr White Surfacer is from the people who brought us MSC. I think I've seen it on some of the BJD sites for sale, but I get mine from a local hobby shop. When it comes to doll making hobby shops are your best friend!
       
    16. The sculpt was looking well... it is a shame what happened. ;-; Are the parts pretty evently burnt? Maybe it could be a drow! (A black or dark skinned elf with white hair)
       
    17. oooh im so sorry! that torso was so lovely too...
       
    18. I'm going to redo this little project, because for some reason my luck with Sculpey just isn't what it should be! XD Maybe my luck with paperclay will be better- atleast I won't have to bake it.

      I've still got another block of Sculpey. I guess I'll just use it when I finally get the monies for resin casting. That way I can use the sculpey over and over, and use up the paperclay for special projects. Sound about right? ^_^
       
    19. Get some Ladoll. Stuff takes a ton of abuse.

      ... I have some I'm thinking of sending away home... want a block or two?
       
    20. How pity...TAT this body is beautiful~hopw you can salvage it.
       
    21. Keanna: I'm so sorry. :(

      For what it's worth, Super Sculpey really shouldn't burn in less than 15 minutes, even if it's thin. Either you've got a weird batch (something I've never heard of) or you've got an oven that runs hot (very common). You might want to get a thermometer and check on that.

      Why do you say you shouldn't bake on a baking pan? I've never heard of that. Personally, I bake on a cookie sheet with Polyfill on it. Polyfill is synthetic stuffing for teddy bears and the like -- you should be able to find it pretty easily at a craft store. It's great for baking pieces without getting those flat shiny spots where they rest on the pan.

      I'd also suggest stringing your poor burned doll, and seeing how well everything works... if you're going to start over anyway, you may find that you want to tweak your design. Also, since you can add always add more Sculpey and bake again, you might consider doing a "skeleton" of the moving parts, baking it, and then testing it... that way you can check articulation and proportions before you put in all the sculpting work on the details.

      Good luck. :)
       
    22. I've burned sculpey black like that before, and it's just fine to work with if it hasn't blistered. I agree with Logodae, I've never ever burned sculpey before the 15 minute mark. When I burned it, it was in for an hour or more at maybe 300! And the pieces that burned were all tiny, yet still usable. Are you sure it wasn't too close to the heating fillaments? Also, you should never use a toaster oven, or a convection/microwave oven. Regular big ovens are the only safe way to bake sculpey.

      You can always bake on a baking pan, but you just need something to protect the sculpture from laying right on the pan. I use wadded up paper towels dampened with water and that works great. I've never worked with paper clay before, but heard that it's harder to work with than super sculpey. Some people have had great success with it though. I'd say don't give up with the sculpey!
       
    23. Keanna, your sculpting is wonderful!! I like her muscle.
       
    24. were you using sculpey(white) or super sculpey(sort of tan-flesh colored)? Sculpey, the original white kind, is really soft and easy to burn. :S You might try Super Sculpey, which is a little more expensive if you decide to start over. I think she's worth salvaging if you can! I use Krylon Primer from the paint section at the hardware store, it works really well but you have to do thin coats. I do two or three thin coats on each side then let it sit for a day to properly dry, then you can sand to your hearts content!
       
    25. Awwwwww! That's so depressing! =TwT= Don't give up!
       
    26. I feel so bad for you. Your sculpting was nice looking.

      But don't give up! :>
       
    27. If you haven't trashed it. Why not just paint over it? Just because underneath she's burnt black doesn't mean some good old acrylic paint won't cover it. Just remember to seal it.

      ^_^ Its a wonderful cast though! :aheartbea
       
    28. Thank you all for your wonderful words of encouragement! It's nice to come back to a community of such wonderful people!! I had actually all this time been taking a hiatus from doll making- the whole mess got me down right depressed about it. Sad really.

      I'm going to try Paperclay instead- it doesn't require baking (which seems to be my doll making bane) and I've seen serveral dolls made with it that turned out beautifully. And at $6.00 USD per pack (half pound, including tax!) I can afford to waste or screw up with it.
      I saw the Gresso (sp?) at Michaels a few days ago when I decided to give my dolls a go again. I didn't have enough money to get it, but alteast I know it's there.
      Also, I realized, I need to pick up some sandpaper. I haven't any, so I'll add that to my list.

      Again! Thank you all for the morale boost. It's very much appreciated.
       
    29. You could always paint it. With a spray, so it would look even. Do not throw it out!
       
    30. I used to have burning and discoloring problems with Sculpey as well. Then I heard about the boiling method. You just put it in a glass microwave safe bowl with enough lukewarm water to cover the item, and then microwave on high (the one pictured below took about 45 min). I was so happy! No more cracks, moonies, or discoloring! It still seemed a bit soft when I took her out so I just hat to be careful until it cooled. Now it is really strong and doesn’t feel brittle like when I oven bake. Note: Just make sure you don't have any metal armatures or other metal things because microwaves have fits if you put them in (knows from experience :aeyepop:... let's just say fireworks lol).

      Here’s an example of how it looked right out of the microwave (I slipped some eyes in to see how they looked :) )…
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    31. I had never heard of that!! But-- does it cure in the microwave or just kind of make it a little easier to bake? Hm... I'll have to consider that!

      If you know of any alternate curing methods-- let me know! Oi! I need them!
       

    32. Yes, it cures nicely. You do have to microwave longer then you would bake it though. As soon as I pull it out I do some carving on the inside since it is still a little tiny bit soft at that point. Works great for me :) Do some tests and see what you think before you try it on something important though.
       
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