flumo vs liqache

Has anyone tried both these materials? Any major differences, detail reproduction, consistency, or anything you can share from first hand experience? I thought I'd like to try it to cast a master with and maybe then get that sent off for resin production. Maybe to cast a few for ooak non-resin versions too. I also wanted to shrink a body a tiny bit and thought it might work to get that job done at the same time.

It sounds like they're both pretty similar but shipping is so expensive to Canada that I don't want to go and waste $80 on the wrong product by accident.

 

Thanks Aliciea, I'll try and get the flumo then! I saw someone mention flumo is porcelain while liquache is paper mache, so I guess that's what the fibers are. BTW, do you know if one is stronger than the other?

Strange about the gesso peeling off, I wonder if auto primer would do the same.

 

Alicia: Oh I see, oops! It was just something I'd read, but looking at the official site it only says it can be "sanded to a porcelain like finish", so it must've been a mistake. Glad to hear it can take primer anyway, that's all I need I'm having a little trouble finding flumo for a good price.. it's not for sale in Canada and the US ditributor site has contradicting price info and when I emailed them about it they just ignored me /whatever. I may end up just going with liquache afterall, it's about half as expensive so I won't feel as bad about inevitable screw ups.

wyverngem: It's (some sort of) liquid slip that can be used like procelain slip in plaster molds but air dries and doesn't need to be fired. It doesn't shrink as much as porcelain (about 5% compared to 15%).

 

So I got both of these products to try them out and they're similar but have a lot of differences too. It's quite fun to cast dolls so easily and have many bases you can rework or play around with, I'm kinda addicted :p It makes me want to try out porcelain as well~ Anyway I'll write a more thorough comparison in a few days after the liquache body has dried more and I've had a chance to experiment with it, but for the moment here you can see the shrinkage differences between the two:


shrinkage comparison by thatbee, on Flickr

L->R: Original sculpey (33.4cm), flumo cast (32cm), liquache cast (31cm~)
Flumo was almost spot on with about %5 shrinkage, and Liquache has the largest at probably 6-7%.