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Dyeing Dying didnt work, help?

Mar 11, 2021

    1. Hello everyone! Last weekend I tried to dye a doll (Guu Doll 68 cm body). It did not go well. He came out super blotchy and uneven. I don't know why. The same pot of dye turned my practice head (Doll Family Baan) a gorgeous shade, no blotching or marbling. I did post in the main dyeing thread, and got no answers so I'm hoping someone here can help. I'd like to try again this weekend if anyone has any ideas.

      Here is the post I made there for more info. Sorry I am too lazy to re type it all.:sweat

      Alright guys I need some help...I tried to dye my doll this weekend and it was a disaster. Super marbled and the color wasn't right. The color was still an acceptable shade, but it wasn't quite as dark as I wanted it to be. It was perfect on my test doll, but then I went to dye my actual pieces and it was just off. The test head is normal skin and the actual doll is white, but I don't feel like that should make such a difference. The practice one is almost white already. To answer a few questions I know will pop up:

      I washed the doll twice. All pieces, once with dish soap about a week and half before the dyeing then again right before I gave them a good rinsing.
      I soaked the pieces for 4 minutes each. The color didn't seem to get any darker after about 2 and a half minutes.
      I rinsed each piece as soon as they came out of the pot. Straight from the pot to the sink, less than ten seconds.
      I used a fish net for the smaller pieces.
      The rest of the pieces were strung on string, and i made to swish all of them around to make sure the dye was staying mixed.
      Temp stayed right at 200 the whole time.
      They never touched the sides or the bottom of the pot.

      Here are some pics of the pieces I did before I realized it wasn't gonna work and gave up. There's a lot, so spoiler.
      Here is the worst one:
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      A before and after of the color. Some of the pieces weren't too bad but...none of them came out how they should.
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      And just some general pics of how awful they came out. Looking at them on my computer I can see they don't look bad, but they are very marbled I promise.:
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      The practice head itself, not the head cap, is the color it was supposed to be. And its not marbled. Its perfectly smooth and even color. Sorry I didn't grab any pics of them together. The actual doll pieces were quite a bit more yellow.
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      Ok that is all I got. In my frustration I wiped the pieces already, sorry. I can say acetone gets rid of dye really well though. Just swishing it around in a container for like 30 seconds works miracles. So that's good at least. Anyway. Anyone have any suggestions? Or know what I did wrong? Any help is much appreciated. I really want to get him dyed the right color. Please feel free to ask any questions.

      Thank you so much for looking! Hopefully someone will be able to help so I can get my boy the right color.
       
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    2. :/ I have had this happen with almost brand-new resin - something about the resin itself, rather than the pot or temp, or dye. It eventually took the dye OK in the end, but I had to airbrush it to fix a lot of tiny irregularities. But on the other hand, older dolls that I have dyed in the past came out way better.

      I think it was something about the resin texture - like, new resin can sometimes have a rougher texture, but older resin has been rubbed smoother by handling over the years, so I think that's one potential explanation.
      It could also be the type of resin the company uses for casting.

      You could also try it again, with a lighter dye-to-water ratio. I dyed one doll once, where I did a relatively diluted bath, and when the color wasn't right, I did a second with a slightly darker (and color corrected) dye bath, that ended up with the right color in the end.

      I hope you are able to get him the color you want!
       
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    3. So I should restring him and play with him a bit? Im ok with that. I do miss him lots. That could be it. I have had that body less than a month, whereas my practice head I've had for a few years now. And a lighter dye bath? So make a dye bath the right color then pour out half of it and fill it with more water? I can try that. Or I could just halve my measurements for the dyes I use. That would probably be easier lol. Will I need to keep him in longer if I do that? He didn't seem to get any darker when I kept him in longer. Thank you for the tips!
       
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    4. Yeah I typically halve my dye measurements. :) At one point I dyed a WS doll to like, a gunmetal grey, and also did black gradient on some parts. I kept the grey in for quite a while, maybe 5-6 minutes per part? and periodically kept like, picking the pieces completely out of the water and re-dunking them. And the black pieces I actually kept in for an additional 4-ish minutes.

      With a slightly more diluted dye bath, I find that you have more room for error, since it takes longer to dye each piece, you can still kind of see if the color's off, before you have it dyed to the saturation you want.
       
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    5. Haven't seen that mentioned, but which dye did you use? Some colors, like Dyemores Kentucky Sky, are very, very pale and just don't go darker than a certain shade, same with sandstone.
       
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    6. @AirimirOfGondor Ok cool. I think I will string him back together and play with him for a few weeks and then try again with a diluted dye bath. Hopefully that works. Any ideas what to do if that doesn't work? Thank you for the help!

      @meanae I used Rit Dyemore Chocolate Brown and Daffodil Yellow. 171 ml of the yellow, 51 ml of the brown in 8 qts of water if I remember correctly. It was originally to yellow, so I added in more of the brown.
       
    7. THis is a blog page on my Dye methods, but it's also got some Troubleshooting tips for when you're having difficulties. Best of luck!
       
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    8. @Rosslyn Oh thank you! So...if I am reading that correctly if I get blotches I can just use a magic eraser to get rid of them and redye it without redoing the whole piece? Is that right?
       
    9. Thank you for sharing this. I literally gave up dying one of my larger dolls about a year ago and she has been in pieces for that long in storage, because the dye job came out splotchy on her sides and torso area. It never dawned on me to smooth these areas out post dye. I will be retrying the process soon!
       
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    10. You're very welcome, I'm glad it will help! I've done a LOT Of dye jobs on dolls, if I say so meself. And a little smoothing right after seems to help, but so does some very strong pigment blushing to blend it all nicely.
       
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    11. When you first dye a resin doll you should give it a thorough wash and a scrub first. When casting resin the molds are coated with a release agent. If you get a doll without paint there's a chance all the mold release wasn't removed. If you got a blotchy result it may be due to mold release residue still on the resin.
       
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