Dollshe Classic 8B (39cm) Robin & 6G (35cm) Rosa

A dollshe child! How wonderful. I wonder if you will need to buy the extra hands.

 

Rosa is listed as being with all hands for this promotion, Robin as only with relaxed hands and dressing paddles. I wonder if that is a mistake. I will ask.

ETA: It says "It will be provided as a full package only during the “In Love with Grey” promotion. All parts in the picture will be included". The option hands are pictured with Robin. So, during the promotion, all hands are included.

 

Wow there seem to be quite a few pairs of hands.

 

Man. I actually LOVE dollshe's prototyped-gray color.
I am tempted to get a Rosa. But I don't know...

 

The more I look at those two, the more I'd like to get Rosa. Just no way to do this currently without a longer layaway period and I have no clue how to go about layaway on the Dollshe site, as it is quite confusing

PS: there also seems to be something off with the measurements table. No way that his head is 2 inch larger than hers.

 

<sighs> Ordered the pair of 'em, naturally. And now the wait continues for Rey Lewis, and Venitu, and begins for the children. The kids' proportions look more like human proportions and, hey, if Dollshe has done them, they will be very special.

 

I have now abandoned these, grudgingly. The issue is the height. I want a 6-7 year old girl for my troupe. As Mr Kim seemed to say that he scaled these to fit with his other dolls, which have set the scale for my dolliverse, I thought my prayers had been answered. However, something is way off.

My dolliverse is based a 70cm doll representing a notional, ideal 6' male. This makes the world 1:2.6 scale. Now, Mr Kim said the scale of these is "2:7:1". This doesn't make sense as a ratio and I assumed he had just confused a colon with a decimal point and that it was 2.7:1, which would be fine. And I got all excited. Then I worked it out.

At 1:2.7 scale, Rosa would be 95cm and Robin would be 105cm. I used height charts (because I am THAT anal about these things) and that makes both of them about the height of three year olds.

Well, poo. And I was so looking forward to having a Dollshe child in my Dollshe-heavy troupe. Back to a Dollstown 7, then.

 

In getting caught up by the ratios, you've missed the specifics. Dollshe clearly indicates that Rosa, the six year old, is 35cm and Robin, the eight year old, is 39 cm.

An average six year old girl (by USA standards) is roughly 41 inches tall, or about 57% of the height of a six foot tall man. The average height of an eight year old USA boy is 45 inches, or 62.5% of the height of a six foot tall man. I use USA stats because you suggested that the 70cm doll represented a notional, ideal 6' male. This having been said, the average height of a South Korean male was actually 5'7" in 2010 -- children would also be proportionally smaller.

The ratios of the children to the "adult" Dollshe males would be the female (Rosa) at 50% of the TALL "adult" male proportion, and male (Robin) at 57% of the TALL "adult" male proportion. Let's cue this up against AVERAGE adult male height. Even USA males fall short, given your "ideal" 6' male -- white U.S. males average 69.7", or approximately 5'10".

The children are a little bit short, at least if we're considering U.S. standards -- however, they are within a margin of error - perhaps a bit small, but not critically so.

 

Julie, yes. My dolliverse scale is not everyone's dolliverse scale. As Mr Kim cited one that appeared similar to mine (although it makes his 70cm males 6' 2"), I used it. It only made matters worse. However, even if I had used my scale of 1:2.6, Rosa would be just a little smaller than a 4 year old, which is too small.

I had an Alice in Labyrinth doll, at 37cm, as first version of this character and she looked miniscule next to my 70cm dolls. I am guessing that this was because they look as though they are tall men, because of their build. So, it seems that working on my 1:2.6 formula is the best bet for me. So, 45cm or thereabouts is what I need.

So, it turns out that these aren't for me, but I am sure they will do a great job for other people.

ETA: To give you an idea, here is my old AiL with my Saint. She is two centimeters taller than a Rosa and has a marginally larger head and smaller waist, but otherwise quite close. To my eye, she looked tiny, like a four year old. However, that is to my eye and she was certainly a viable young child.



ETA: This is giving me lots of food for thought. I have two daughters and checked their growth charts and they were just below chest level on me at 6 and waist on my partner, who is 5'10" (although it should be noted they are tall). The AiL doll, and so these, don't even reach my Saint's hip. I wonder if the "tiny child" look is because of the hugely long legs of the classic Dollshes? They might look more proportional on dolls with human length legs.

ETA again: Nope. 35cm reaches top of the thigh against my EID. Aaargh! Also found this, which shows a 5 year old boy (so about a six year old girl) as being just below waist level, which seems plausible. On my Saint and EID, that makes 43-44cm. OK. So that has sorted out me. As you were!

 

I just ordered a Rosa. I simply had to as I really like those natural proportions she has. I have no clue if she'll fit in with any of my other dolls, but I don't care either. I just wished I would have the money to buy both as they really look very cute together.

 

I am looking to buy Rosa as well, even though she will most likely not fit in with any of my other dolls either, in face or body type. I am very interested to see what everyone does with those unique faces. I have wanted a chubby type child for a long time, and was hoping that Dollstown would bring a 35mm into the family, but it hasn't happened yet.

 

Madam Mau Mau: Your adorable little AiL really does look quite small. I think that most "child" dolls look miniscule compared to the 70cms. A unoa Quluts might be the appropriate size, but even with the flat chestplate and if you use the male faceplates, which have more of an aesthetic that will match, they really look a bit older than six.

 

Rosa is the same height as a Unoa Chibi -- but the Unoa Chibi has a frame I associate more with that gangly age around third or fourth grade, when the baby fat is beginning to disappear. It will be interesting to see how the Dollshe kids look, size-wise, beside the chibi.

 

Yes, child dolls generally do look small against 70cm boys, which was why I was excited that Mr Kim had made an in-scale 6 year old girl, as that was just what I was after. It's fine. The DT7 body is exactly the right size and I will scope out a head to go on it. It is still something of a shame that I won't be able to add another Dollshe to the collection, but I'll live.

 

Any idea what clothes will fit them? I think that may be a challenge, but one I will take if I do order.

 

Oh shoot. All this time I have been saying to myself, "Mini David will be my last doll'. But Robin. No really. I could get him as a birthday present for myself. But I have unclothed dolls sitting around. And I have never had a Dollshe doll in my hands, ever. And I'll just turn him into another red-headed boy.

Please provide me with arguments pro and/or contra :P.

PS: why are there no photos of his profile? I would love to see his profile.

 

I like the childlike aspect of the sculpt, but I really, really dislike the maturity/sexual differentiation in the hands (especially on Rosa), especially since these really aren't proportionally 6-8 years old to a 1/3 scale doll, they're more 4-5 years old. And I'm not fond of the jointing, it seems very crude compared to Mr. Dollshe's usual work.

 

I was entranced by the two child sculpts! I ordered Rosa and now begins the long wait. Can anyone tell me the average wait for one of DollShe's? This will be my first from this company.

Belinda

 

I'm relieved to see that I'm not the only one who's disconcerted by their hands

 

It's the high-heeled feet that get me... o.O

 

That too!

Mr. Dollshe may need to go back to the drawing board or whatever, and re-do them before production. However I think I'm not going to get on this year-long train this time...

 

I also ordered Rosa. I think that she will be adorable in the real skin colors. The clothing is going to be the challenge, but I looked at Dollmore Alexa body and although taller, the proportions are similar, but I am sure it's not easy to find clothes to fit.
She will also be my first from Dollshe, Belinda.

 

Well I'll be making my own clothing for Rosa, so I won't have to worry about finding any. LOL. Theresa, you and are in the same boat. I think Rosa will fit in nicely with my little family of dolls.

 

elfstone, I'm already looking forward to see what you will create for your Rosa. You always make such beautiful clothes for your dolls

As for me I just hope we won't be into another year of waiting until they will arrive, but with dollshe you just never know .

 

Thank you Sharkyra! That's very sweet of you. I'm hoping it won't be as long as a year.

 

We're all hoping that ^____^

 

Do you think the long waits were because the artist was ill?

 

To be honest I do not know. He was (and still is) ill, which slows down his working schedule considerably, but my best guess is that this is not the only reason. I think another big point is that he is very, very, very perfectionistic and will usually overwork and correct each doll even after they went on sale. Chances are we might even see some corrections on Rosa, before she will finally ship out. Who knows .

Though I do not really mind the wait anymore these days - and with Dollshe at least you know that you will be getting your doll, no matter when.

 

I placed an order for Robin in Caramel brown. I wanted Rosa also but think that's pushing my limits on doll orders. I have no idea how he will look and no clothes for him (Iplehouse Jid may fit but be too big). As he's on Layaway I'm wondering if it's worth paying off early so I can get him sooner. Really excited though!!

 

I have Rosa on order and I emailed Dollshe and want to know when she will be ready so i can pay it off. Have not heard anything yet. getting excited to have some info!

 

I have sent another email and haven't gotten any response yet. No updates on my order page either. Does anyone know another way to contact him?

 

DollShe generally does not start to make a doll until it is fully paid off, even though the website states that a doll will be poured once the second of three, or the third of four, payments have been made.

 

Well, I did pay off my girl some weeks ago, but I don't expect mine to ship very soon. My last Dollshe order took almost one year to ship and somehow I can't imagine that Rosa will ship faster. (Although I really hope she will, of course xD )

 

Ugh! I don't want to hear that! I'm really hoping she will ship in a month or so. Sigh.

 

Hello I am not too familiar with Dollshe, but Rosa caught my eye. Am I seeing correct that there will be two sizes? (22CM &35CM).

 

Yes they have the Fashion doll size Rosa and Robin dolls now that are smaller and I was a bit confessed when I saw the dolls pictured together at the size difference.

 

Yeah, I didn't realise that until I got an email response from them when I emailed asking when my dolls would be ready ^^

All the more reason I'm tempted to pay it off sooner.

Also on a separate note, are Dollshe eyes worth the cost? $40 seems really steep.

 

Nauticaa, will you please tell me when you heard back from Dollshe? I am still waiting for my answer.

I like the Dollshe eyes. $40 is not a bad price for urethane eyes.

 

Thanks. I was also a little confused too, I thought I was seeing things lol. Not sure which size I will order yet, but I am leaning towards the smaller one. I think she would be a lot of fun in such a tiny size.

eta: I ended up ordering the 22cm Rosa. Is there a separate discussion for that size or would she go here?

 

I heard back from Dollshe in about 4 days and also received a receipt for my Layaway order in around the same time. I'm thinking that because it's Christmas they probably won't be working and may well not be back until the New Year. This is my first order with them so I'm not sure what to expect.

 

Has anyone seen a painted Rosa or Robin yet?

 

No painted images that I have seen yet, Belinda.
I paid off my girl two days ago after hearing back from Dollshe that she would begin production upon completion of payment.
I would love to know when she will be sent to me. Hoping for quickly.

 

Well I paid for mine at the time it was announced, does that mean I'll get mine sooner? LOL. I know that's probably wishful thinking. Sigh. I'm hoping, Theresa, that it means we'll receive them sometime in Jan or Feb.

Belinda

 

I would hope that yours will be coming to you very soon. My understanding originally was that the production of the doll would begin with the first payment. I am really looking forward to seeing Rosa in the normal skin tone, and then after her faceup. I cant' help but think that she will really be cute once finished. Meanwhile, we wait.....

 

Did anyone else order a Robin or Rosa? And are we allowed to talk about the 22cm in here too?

 

Is there any news on our dolls? My order still says "processing". Sigh.

 

Remember that I warned you that it might very well take up to one year till our precious dolls will be delivered . Yet don't worry, they will be delivered ...eventually.

So basically I'm not expecting mine before the end of the year. lol

 

Ugh! I guess I should just forget about it?!

 

I keep trying to forget about it for now. But it's hard! I really want to see my little one in person. Oh well, where can we b**ch about it if not for here, with all of us waiting the same.

 

LOL; I hear you!

 

Well, I do have at least some good news: it's already six months since we ordered the dolls, so technically we're half way there xD.

 

<Grins> That IS a healthy way of looking at it. At this point, when the dolls show up, they show up.

 

*shrug* unfortunately that's the way to go with Dollshe. However, I'm more than sure that the Dolls are going to be worth the wait in the end.

 

Given that I have, what, twelve of them now, I'd have to agree with you....

 

Anyone receive their Rosa or Robin yet? I really want to order Rosa...but, I'm really not into waiting a year for delivery. It might be different if dollshe asked for a deposit and charged the balance when the doll is completed. The idea of paying in advance and then waiting a year for the product doesn't appeal to me too much.

 

Well, I at least haven't heard of anyone receiving their Rosa or Robin yet.
Funny thing though is that I received a message from Dollshe today and was already hoping for a shipping notice, but it was just some information on head/body compatibilities for his bigger dolls. (Apparently many people asked him the same question, so he sent a newsletter to everyone xD)

 

Same here with receiving a message from Dollshe. Still waiting to get that shipping notice too!

 

I have been getting emails for new releases, but no information on my Rosa yet either.