Dae Jang Geum dolls

oh seen them before I think they aren`t allowed on this forum... unfortunatly. They do look like lovely dolls though.

 

They are ball jointed and made of resin. Why are they not allowed?

Discussion thread here: http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66678&highlight=Dae+Jang+Geum

 

I just about had a heart attack when I saw this topic. XD;
Have always thought Dae Jang Geum dolls would be wonderful- never saw these before!

 

Read the forum rules on doll criteria, and note that criteria number 8 is required. Number 8 is decided by the moderators, not by member opinion.

http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42407

Plus the fact that their manufacturer considers them BJFD (ball jointed fashion doll) never helps.

BTW - I do not remember seeing the mods state an opinion on these yet. Anyone have a link to their decision, if any?

Carolyn

 

I've never seen the mods state an opinion on Jigmaree Hana. In fact, I had her in a WTB thread in the marketplace for several months before I became nervous and removed her.

She is made of french resin, is msd sized, has standard ball joints. The actual manufacturers website is here. >< You have no idea how long it took me to find them, it was a bit ridiculous. For months, all I had to go on was Shin-Mang, and people even thought her mould name was "Her way".

I'm fairly sure they're going to decide against her, but I really love her nonetheless.

 

double post. >< I swear I only clicked 'submit' once.

Anyways, uhm, she can wear Tonner clothes. When she was first announced on DoA, no one really knew who made her, because she was an ebay find, and Shin Mang didn't say. It was thought that her name was "Hana" (it was) and that the brand name was "Her Way" (which it turns out was unrelated). She is also sometimes refered to as "Shin Mang Hana". I ebay for her often, but I haven't gotten lucky in a long time. -_-

She was sold as a blank, or with a faceup, but not as a Dae Jang Geum. Later, Jigamaree, her actual company, made a deal with the tv show to market her as a Dae Jang Geum cosplay. This deal significantly increased her price. I don't know if they're still going to market her as Hana, anymore... I suspect, not.

 

The Photo Album is awesome, it's a huuuuuuge flash download, but worth it if you like her sculpt.

 

she looks like she would fit, made out of resin, head cap, wig, eyes, etc. on the thread the mods closed it, maybe their still talking about it? she's very real looking too. ^^

 

If I had not just bought a doll I would be all over this! She is gorgeous, and french resin.

 

My thoughts on rule 8 -

The forum creators and mods have specific criteria about what style of resin dolls they want discussed on DoA. Criteria 8 involves the proportions of most Asian BJD's (i.e. the range of typical SD and MSD body and head proportions) as opposed to the proportions of other styles of dolls.

Being a strung resin ball jointed doll with 2-part head, and changeable wigs and eyes is not an automatic pass.

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Extracted from the Doll Criteria
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42407

8. Consistent with the style of other dolls presently allowed in terms of facial and body proportioning and overall aesthetic style.

The following doll types are considered off-topic for DoA:
[...]
~ Fashion dolls, such as Sybarites and RnD Angels
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And here is the manufacturer's description of the doll:

"She is the 16 BJFD(Ball Jointed Fashion Doll) and the first Edition in the name of Jigamaree. She has both varied pose of BJD and beauty of Fashion Doll."

She is a 16-inch doll with a 5.3cm head (like RnD angels), 6-8mm eyes, small hands and feet, slim body and limbs - basically the proportions of a fashion doll. Also her manufacturer calls her a fashion doll.

She seems to be very similar to the proportions of RnD Angels.

But I am not a moderator, but the last thing an admin said about them might be this:
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showpost.php?p=865972&postcount=10

Carolyn

 

I am pretty sure she is off topic for DoA. *nods*

However, imho, only because the manufacturer decided to market her this way, not because she doesn't meet our aesthetic.

 

I fail to see why "fashion" in a description is such anathema. Is the endless sewing, buying, modding, dressing, not FASHION?

 

Ok so if this type is not allowed then what about the new Unoa 2 they look like Tyler fashion dolls too with their new slimmer type bodies and high style feet in case anyone noticed it?

 

*shrug*

Mod's descretion. The Revolotion! has been attempted more than once, but this is an Asian Ball Jointed Doll forum, a 'private' one at that, and the mods decided to whittle down the base of discussion with the rules stated.

 

Well, I like her and think she belongs here. The more, the merrier. Of course, I love my Unoa 2nd as well.

 

I'm not generally a fan of those dolls classified as "mini" but I find this girl very appealing. She reminds me a miniaturized Soah. Though she's advertised as a fashion BJD, I don't think that on its own should exclude her from the forum. Especially when we have barbie sized mature minis now. Being similar to fashion or barbie dolls is just a change in sizing, and there's been a lot of that going around. I for one would love to see this girl with similarly sized BJD boys.

 

I think the only similarly sized BJD boys are the Hautelier doll Ian ( http://dollndoll.com/shop/step0.php?b_code=1139288015&c_code=CHILD1150984199 ) and, of course R&D's Mensajero.

If I ever got a male doll it would be Ian. His face is much more mature than the general pretty boys you see here.

I really like this size doll. The larger ones just don't appeal to me.

As far as I know the Hautelier dolls are still under consideration too.

Does anyone know of a forum for people who like these type of dolls? I feel like a second class citizen here and it will only get worse. I want one of the Goodreau dolls when they come out this Summer. http://www.dollpeddlar.com/index.php?cPath=1275

Since the Goodreau dolls will come out in both resin and vinyl, they are sure to be banned.

I just realized that I only have one doll that is approved of here! Oh well, I do get a lot of information and pattern information.

IMO, Dae Jang Geum is just too expensive. Maybe when I feel better about my finances.

 

I'm pretty sure they allow these kinds of dolls at Zone of Zen. Here is a post about Sybarites: http://members.boardhost.com/ZoneofZenBJD/msg/1173419083.html and here is one about fashion BJD: http://members.boardhost.com/ZoneofZenBJD/msg/1173417642.html

 

Thanks, Lindsayscorner. Zone of Zen looks pretty good.

 

sorry canceled my blurb. Pamela

 

pamela7428, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but this really isn't the place for 'for sale' style posts.

 

ZoZ does welcome all BJD's, including Syb's, Angels, Jigamaree and Hautelier...dang, there is one more that is freakin' amazing, and for the life of me I can't *remember* it. Actually a bunch of people that are now regulars on the board started with fashion dolls, and transitioned to BJD's...so seeing dolls in the scale of the ones they used to have, and thus are able to wear clothing that they may even STILL have, is fabu...Anyhoo, yeah they're welcome. And Zone of Zen is my board, nobody will hassle you, hehehe.

fyi:
I just made it a secure board, so you can't access it w/out registering...we had problems with a very tenacious individual that was bent on disrupting the board--they're also banned on DoA (go figure) and I couldn't ban their IP due to them being AOL...so we went to secure log-in. It takes probably a minute (if that) and once you put in to register, it's automatically ping'd to me and I manually approve. If folks just want to register to lurk, that's awesome-in fact in the first 14 hours of having the new system going, we've got almost 230 folks that registered, and I'm sure half are just readers...again, totally cool w/me. I just wanted to be able to ban anyone who was a troll if I needed to. And if there is a glitch with the registering, I've just had people email me so I could manually add them.

It bums me out that they can't be posted here...I do understand however that the forum is already so huge, and navigating it is pretty time consuming--I wouldn't want to add one more subject/section to have to mod. So yeah, it sucks...but I can see their perspective, especially with this type of board layout.

 

Thank you Shankula.

It will be nice to have a place where I won't constantly have to be watching my "tongue" to make sure I don't mention some of the dolls I have. It is too bad about the troll. You are smart to do something about it before more move in. I think they tend to congregate wherever they can make the most trouble.

I really like the way this board is organized. It makes it easy to find my areas of interest. I am usually hanging out in the sewing area.

I guess I am just backward. I never liked fashion dolls (I thought they were ugly). I spotted a BJD (Volks Megu) modeling on eBay when I was looking for a Kimono and became very interested in BJDs. They ARE a lot prettier than the average fashion doll. As I have slowly defined what I am looking for, I have discovered that the 16 in. is my favorite size and I generally am only interested in using them as sewing mannequins.

All this character stuff just confuses me.

 

To each their own--and I don't personally have any FBJD's, but I do have a Narae...that's as close as I've gotten, at least sizewise. I don't understand the mentality of "it's not bjd' enough", but like I said, I can totally understand wanting to keep it as non-muddled as possible. That said, I think the Dae Jang Geum molded headcap is a cool option, and I like that the doll also comes with a 'plain' headcap for wearing wigs.