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Customs customs duty in USA

Nov 21, 2022

    1. hi, everyone
      I have a question about customs duty in USA
      I've known that the buyer wasn't be imposed by customs duty for the dolls marked as gifts mailing to the U.S from overseas regardless of the amount
      actually I was told that from US buyer long time ago and so far everything was ok
      However, I was curious to hear that the buyer recently paid customs fee for the UPS package marked as a gift / doll
      The buyer said that the fee was imposed because I marked it as a 'gift', not a 'merchandise' , but I am thinking that marking with ' gift ' has an advantage in customs duty over 'merchandise' always
      am I wrong?
      also is it wrong info 'doll' is a customs duty free item regardless of the amount?
      I already know the limit amount of duty free is under $800 as a gift
      thanks for advices in advance
       
      #1 moment, Nov 21, 2022
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    2. I do not know if marking as "gift" matters to customs or not. But my understanding is that dolls are not subject to customs fees in the USA, ever. I always have my packages marked as "merchandise" for 15 years and have never paid customs fees. This is a big advantage because if my doll is marked as "gift", insurance is not valid, so if it arrives broken the sender cannot be reimbursed.
       
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    3. That's very strange. Did the buyer send you a copy of the bill? Unless something changed very recently, there was never any import fee for any dolls. Mostly because of two things: the $800 import limits you mentioned and any "toys" categories are considered tax exempt for import. Did UPS add extra shipping fee? I never had that issues with FedEx or USPS.
       
      #3 aireoko, Nov 21, 2022
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    4. Hmmm.... I'm not really familiar with the intricacies of the postal service, but I've never had to pay customs fees on any of my overseas purchases, including all of my dolls. Three of my doll orders have been over $800 in price, too. (I just checked, and they were all sent via FedEx. But I don't know how much that would affect things...)
       
    5. I live in the US and I've never paid custom fees for gifts or merchandise, from any delivery service.
       
    6. Yeah there are no custom fees in the United States.
       
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    7. So, as far as I understand there can be a customs fee in the United States for someone receiving a bjd here, but it's not common. I think the value threshold is very high already ($800-$1600) and if it is misdeclared then they would have to suspect that it is so, reclassify the "toy" as something more accurate which is a collectible or cultural/art piece and figure out the real value, then tax you for it. I did know somebody who claimed to have been taxed on a very expensive Volks doll from Japan (second hand shop).
      Even if everything I said is true, the customs rate here, if it does get charged, is nothing compared to many countries. I think it's 3%? But there could also be a difference in the rates anyone is charged based on the carrier they had deliver the package. When I was staying in Canada for example I was asked to grossly overpay customs when it was delivered by FedEx. FedEx has a history of doing this, but using private carriers like that it's always possible, so I'm not sure what the cause is exactly if a customer in the us was charged, maybe it was a choice the courier made on their own.
       
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    8. I can't speak for the US but just to mention in the UK the fee threshold for gifts is lower than for goods. So it's not always the case marking as a gift is better, depending on the country. I'm still getting some sellers sending me things as a 'gift' when I don't ask them to, and it means I pay fees when I shouldn't have if they had marked as 'goods' so that's a bit annoying. If you don't mark them as goods it's best to check what the buyer is ok with imo
       
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    9. it's very interesting
      cause our post office posted like below in its official website about customs in UK and all UK buyers who I dealt with before ( 100% of them ) wanted me to mark as a gift
      merchandise or sample : under 15 GBP
      gift : 39 GBP

      but I will refer to your mention too
      thanks for your time
       
    10. **** I appreciate all of you guys who left comments for me
      they were interesting and very helpful!!!!! ****
       
    11. Since Brexit that changed (gift £39 and under no fees, goods £135 and under no fees) Tax and customs for goods sent from abroad
       
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    12. for my curiosity I asked to the overseas delivery agent here about customs duty in UK
      they said like below

      gift under £39 : no fee
      gift £39 ~ £135 : VAT will be imposed
      gift over £135 : VAT plus customs duty will be imposed

      merchandise : VAT will be imposed ( it seems before was no fee under £15 but now is all merchandise should be paid VAT according to new rule/ if it is still no fee under £15 for merchandise please tell me to correct)
      merchandise over £135 : VAT plus customs duty will be imposed

      so ....To sum up the above story is the best way of avoiding fee in UK will be gift under £39 ( no fee )
      my question was whether ' doll' shipped to the US was a duty free item or not but the story expanded to UK ( haha )

      *** I'll leave my newfound infos here for UK buyers! ***
       
    13. The link I sent is more correct since that is the UK government website. The person you spoke to is mostly right but a little wrong. They are right about how gifts work. But VAT on goods under £135 is meant to be included at point of sale, so you will not pay any VAT at the border on goods under £135. I can confirm that, since when someone mistakenly marked a £60 parcel as a 'gift' I got a fee, but I sent proof of purchase that it was not a gift to Royal Mail and they refunded me the fee. So if it's a gift it must be marked under £39 to avoid ransom, and if it's goods it must be under £135.

      Yes sorry this went so off topic, lol. But I think it's good to discuss because a lot of people are unaware or confused on the new UK rules. They think simply marking as a gift is good because that works in some other countries but the amount is really important.
       
    14. I knew VAT on goods would be collected at point of sale cause I had experienced with it in ebay
      when I sold a doll in ebay UK buyer paid VAT with total amount but in this case I marked the number offered by ebay which showed buyer paid for it in advance on shipping label otherwise double taxation could be occurred to the buyer in there
      but I was talking about the deal between personal and personal like we did in marketplace here where can't be collected VAT in advance
      it means you have a duty in paying VAT for merchandise even marking under £15 ( or all merchandise ) when you get it if you don't pay VAT when you buy
      and if it is over £135 customs duty as well so it will be the same story in the end as what I said before
      the best way of avoiding fee in UK will be gift under £39 ( no VAT / no customs duty )
      my story keeps getting longer, but I'm writing it down again because it can help UK buyers
       
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