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Aesthetics Critique for a face-up first timer

Nov 3, 2017

    1. I took the leap and tried doing a faceup for the first time. It was actually pretty fun, but the lower lashes still give me a headache. I used gouache and a very fine brush - when I diluted the gouache it wouldn't stick to the surface and the thicker paint just didn't spread nicely. And I don't have a shiny clear coat for the lips and waterline at home so everything is still matt. (Oh and those are human size fake lashes ... way too long lol but okay-ish for the dramatic faceup I guess)


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      So yeah I'd love any and all critique I can get and also help on materials, especially brushes since I felt like mine weren't really right to get the job done properly.
       
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    2. I can't give you any constructive criticism because I'm just starting to do faceups myself and well, I'm not excellent in it yet :p
      But I wanted to congratulate you for your brows. It's so hard for me to make thin hair like this and you've done it very well at the first attempt ! Keep up the good work :D
       
    3. I think it looks great for a first attempt! The blending on the eyelids is nice and even, the eyebrows match very well, and the overall consistency is great.

      The only thing that really sticks out to me as problematic is that the lashes have gluemarks. They're bound to happen on your first application though, so I think if you keep practicing, it'll get neater and neater until they're fully invisible.

      I've heard of some artists using normal makeup brushes. I have these and they work well for me.
       
    4. What a fantastic start to face-ups! I love it, you should be proud!

      Your blending is lovely, great use of shades and the lip effect is superb.
      I actually really like the style of placing the lower lashes further down away from the eyeline - you made it work.

      When i comes to gloss, i suggest using Tamiya Semi gloss for the lips and Tamiya clear for the eyewells if you want a wet, natural looking eyeline.

      I use a mixture of gouache with a drop of paint thinner to make it flow smoothly - i get the same problem with water, it doesn't stick!
      You can also use very sharp watercolour pencils to draw fine lashes, but the brush technique i find it always much more natural looking with results.

      As for brushes, i use a mixture of the really small figure miniature painting brushes for detail and a set of makeup blushes for blushing!
       
    5. Also! If you want smaller lashes you can use human ones but re-draw the end line with some glue and wait for it to harder, then cut off the excess and attach it from the new line you made! Voila, smaller lashes!
       
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    6. Very nice work!!! Everything looks very nicely blended. Upon looking at the head, the eyebrow on the
      right looks slightly lower. I am 70 years old. It may be my eyes!!!
       
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    7. Its a very lovely face up, the only real "issues" I sort of have with it are more "improvements for more realistic face ups" versus actual problems with it. Its a very nice face up and I myself probably couldn't do better on my first attempt so please don't feel like I'm trying to pick apart the face up, just offering helpful advice. (Read this all in a warm bubbly tone. Sometimes people say my words come off as harsh/mean and I really don't intend it, thus this disclaimer)

      Usually, at least with most make up, the corner of the eye won't be completely black. There are some people who will attempt to make that entire area (near the nose) solid black with eyeliner but usually there will be some bit/piece of flesh tone visible. There are various ways to achieve this, even just a little sprinkle (each person applies their face ups differently, be it by brush,sponge,paint, however you see fit/feel comfortable) of the fleshy tones you used to shade the face (or even a bit of the eye shadow colors you used as they're a warmer/fleshier tone) could help. It just looks a little harsh (again this is solely my opinion, there ARE people who try to go for that solid black filled in look) when I stare at her head.

      The only other thing is (perhaps its just the angles) the lower lashes don't connect. They are lovely, but they're the only other thing that really catches my eye and makes me do a double take. I know typically you will see some pink flesh between your lashes and your eye liner, and this is your first face up (please please please don't feel like I'm being mean, I'm really not trying to be X.x) and it truly is a wonderful first face up but perhaps next time maybe try to make the little fleshy bit between the eye and the lower lashes a little smaller.

      Again, these are all just nitpicking/looking for ways to improve. It is in no way, shape, or form trying to say this is an awful job or you do not know what you are doing. I think its a lovely face up, you did an amazing job and will only continue to improve from here. I just know when I ask for critique in hopes to improve my art I'd want people to tell me little things they catch. You're free to think I'm crazy, that its perfect (i think its lovely myself) and you can completely disagree with what I have to say...those are just the little things I've seen that my eye sort of gravitated to.
       
    8. Ah thanks a lot. I was surprised myself about the eyebrows, I expected them to look worse :lol: I based them with some pastel dust and after giving it another spray of MSC drew on the fine strands with pastel pencil. That gave it kind of a softer look which I like.
      And good luck to you too with your faceup endeavours! :dance Would love to see yours too.

      Thanks a lot especially for the link! I really need to get some good makeup brushes. I only own one ... which I use for all my daily makeup haha but it seems like it won't do for painting dolls faces. After all I have higher expectations of them than for my own makeup. :lol:

      Thank you SO much for all the tips they are going to be super helpful for me! I stood in front of the Tamiya gloss at the store yesterday and thought I wouldn't need it :doh but on the other hand I wouldn't have thought of using two different glosses anyways - I'll definitely try that.

      Yes you're right! I realized it while painting and tried to even it out, but apparently it's still visible.

      Thank you so much for all the suggestions and taking on the hassle to writing it all down in detail I really appreciate it!
      I wanted to go for the black inside the eye corner, but I agree, the more I look at it the more I think it would have been a better choice to leave the corner natural and only give it a black framing.
      For the lower lashes I tried to copy a look I saw on a companies promo pictures (I think it might have been Ringdoll) where they also had makeup around the eye and then the lower lashes unattached beneath it, but mine turned out way too bulky and obvious sadly :sigh I'll try to paint them closer to the eye next time I try to pull off that look and draw more filigree lashes then it might work out better.

      Thanks again everybody for all the suggestions - you're all super sweet and I'm really happy about all the feedback. It motivates me to try even harder for the next one. Oh! And I have another question - how do I get all this off again? :lol: Since it's quite a load of "makeup" I was thinking of soaking the head in alcohol to get it off. Would you recommend it, or do you think it could damage the head? And how often do you recommend removing and re-doing a faceup? Could the whole process of applying & removing wear the head down after a while?
       
    9. This is a very simple tip that I use. It helps correct a multiple of problems. Look at your head in a mirror.
      It will tell you if the eyebrows are in the right place. You will be amazed!!! You can turn the head upside down
      in the mirror. Very revealing!!!
       
    10. That's actually a great tip. I do that in Photoshop with my artworks, but haven't thought of doing the same trick with a real mirror! Thanks.
       
    11. I think that for a first face-up you did an amazing job. You did a nice job with the shading with the eyes, the eyebrows look even and the face have texture(shading and blushing) so it looks more realistic. I actually like the dramatic lashes:lol:
      I'm a newbie too so my advice might not be too much, but i think you could bring more details by using watercolor pencils(not wet) for like bottom lashes, moles, eyebrows etc for like the tiny things. If gouaches doesn't work you can wet a little bit of the pastels and they work just fine, you gotta build it with layers.
      The only thing that for me it's a bit off in the faceup are the bottom lashes, because they're not attached to the waterline. Also, I suggest watching make up videos, if you want to get realistic ideas on how it work for people.
      For brushes i use the fluffy ones for shading the pastels and tiny and fine ones for the wet pastel or gouache
       
    12. This is excellent!
      The lower lashes are dark and thick, but it works for this look. Looks like mascara.
      Any critique I might have is more in terms of personal preferences and style (for exemple the fact you made the inner corner of the eyes all black).

      Edit: maybe try acrylic paint instead of gouache? I think this is what most people use for finer details.
       
    13. Wow, the eyelashes are really great! I wish i could do it this way..
      Eyelashes are a pain, i cut down a brush till one hair, worked better for me, but i am to just starting,
      But i see a lot of helpfull advice, so i can pick up some too
       
    14. Thanks for the tips and suggestions! I'll have to look if I can find any watercolor pencils between my art supplies.

      Thanks a lot! I also felt like acrylics would be better, but currently only have a weird selection of colors at hand. (mostly purple shades from a past project :'D)
       
    15. This is what stood out to me as well.

      You've painted the lower lashes at what is basically the edge of the bottom of the eye socket of the skull, far below the lower eyelids, while also having black eyeliner on the lower edge of the eye. This gives the viewer TWO visual indicators of where the lower edge of the eye should be, which can be confusing or unnerving (a really cool concept, but probably not what you were trying to do). ;) Its a very small thing in general, but because we humans automatically look at the eyes of another face, any unexpected anomalies in that area tend to REALLY stand out and are subconsciously alarming or upsetting.

      In the future I recommend connecting the lashes to the eyeliner, or using pink paint to extend the "flesh" of the inner lid beyond the sculpting to achieve the look I think you were going for.

      Otherwise, it looks great for a first attempt. You seem to be getting the hang of working with the materials on resin, which is the first hurdle to get over. Keep up the practice! :)
       
    16. Thanks! I agree that lashes definitely are a pain in the butt :sweat
      I just got 0, 00 and 000 brushes from Tritart today and have to say that they are AMAZING. They work so much better for painting lashes than the brush I cut and used for this faceup 'cause they are thin, but the bristles are a lot less soft than the other brushes I own and have pointy tips so straight lines are easier.

      Thanks a lot for your feedback! It actually was intended, but since it stands out to so many people as wrong I just wasn't able to pull it off the way I intended. :sweat I'll need to do it more subtle next time.
       
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    17. I love it looks real good first time wow I'd love to have this happen for me when I do a faceup for the 1st time. U did really well job well done I really do love it:sumomo:
       
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    18. Your first time?? wowow you did a fantastic job! water color pencils might be easier to use for the lower lashes?