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Bishonen House 2.0 sculpting/progress of my new doll

Jun 9, 2007

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    1. Hey All,

      I haven't posted in a while mostly because i haven't had much free time because of commissions and also because i didn't really have anything to add to my last "and old" dollmaking thread

      Ive been working on and off for the past years on my next sculpt and finally hes nearing completion, I'm hoping to have a finished version at Otakon this year.
      Unlike my last doll who was rather stylized My new doll is a fairly realistic sculpt so hes being sculpted from the inside out, as you will see with the following pics.

      My last doll sculpt was done with chavant clay (a dense waxy clay used by industrial designers and some toymakers) this time I'm sculpting in Premo and Super Sculpey firm and supersculpey soft (not pictured) the sculpey softener can be used to change the consistency of sculpey to a softer more easily workable clay (sometimes desirable for roughing out small areas) and also for smoothing, the liquid scupley is great for bonding pieces of clay together from one baking to the next and also attaching clay to armatures.

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      Here are the arms, in a semi-finished state, as you can see the one on the right is in a rougher state the more finished one on the left.

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      I sculpted the muscle masses as strands of clay i attached to the armature, I built them up as the muscles of the arm would be layered, for reference i used photographs, Orthographic printouts of 3-d digital human scans and a very detailed ecorche model by Andrew Cawrse

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      Once the masses are bult up i would then blend them and begin refining

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      The last stage of the sculpting is to add are any surface and subsurface anatomy, like skin wrinkling prominent tendons and veins, the arms are then baked and sanded.
      The finished arms as well as the legs I built as one piece then later i will cast in resin and joint to make my master.

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      For the hands i first built a wire armature, then built up a rough (but accurate enough for a sculpting base) skeleton.

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      Once the skeleton was sculpted i baked it, once baked i now have a posable wired hand armature with accurate bone/ finger lenghts.

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      I then clipped and rolled the ends of the wire and posed the hands in a realistic neutral position and began to lay up muscle and tendon masses,... the hands are still in proress but i should have finished pics in a few weeks :-)

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      With his head I began by sculpting a scull base out of premo then baking it, I used orthographic scaled down print outs of a laser scanned human scull for my reference.

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      I then began to lay up muscle and fat masses, using the proper references as with my other parts. (this is what i like to call the night of the living dead stage) ;-)

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      During the sculpting i decided to build up the eyes around the actual eyes id be using in my finisehd doll (for a better fit) 11mm masterpiece,..the masterpiece eyes are silicone so the final baking of the head sculpt didnt effect them (polymer eyes will melt so dont try this with them)

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      Finished with hair

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      I intend to make him accurately proportioned with a real human and accurate in anatomical features although some bits do have to be altered quite a bit because of the jointing, like the the Deltoids for example and the back of the neck where the trapezius connects to the base of the skull.
      I hope to post more progress in the next few weeks if things dont get too crazy, if not ill post allot more after Otakon.

      There are more pics of him and more general info (specs), here

      I have some photos that show how his head is divided that ill try to post soon, he has interchangable magnetic faceplates (to change expressions), i divided the face from the head bace in the molding process.

      take care all,
      Donn
       
      #1 Donn, Jun 9, 2007
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    2. Fantastic pictures, thank you for showing your process
       
      #2 aisy, Jun 10, 2007
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    3. Wow... you're like a Renaissance artist or something, building it up so accurately like that..! :o He looks like he's gonna' be awesome when finished!
       
      #3 Statuess, Jun 10, 2007
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    4. May I just say that I honestly didn't think people sculpted in such detail? XD

      I mean, layering down the muscles & everything.. now that I think about it, it makes more sense when sculpting a real-ish mold, but... whoa. O_o

      That is amazing amount of work, right there.

      I stand in awe. ^_^
       
      #4 schyra, Jun 10, 2007
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    5. What a fascinating project! The level of detail is incredible, and i love seeing how you've worked from the inside out.

      Everything looks so real, and his face is very expressive and natural looking. Amazing!!!!
       
      #5 lolipop, Jun 10, 2007
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    6. Wow, I never thought to actually sculpt everything inside first, and then move outside. You've done an amazing job with everything. I really can't wait to see the hands.
       
      #6 Black_Cheshire, Jun 10, 2007
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    7. I absolutely love seeing the stages at which you did everything-- it's really very, very interesting to me. ^__^;

      I do have a question though- Why did you choose to use Premo for the bone structure and then SSFirm for everything else?

      (PS- I absolutely love the premo skull, everytime I see it, it makes me giggle! XD)
       
      #7 Keanna, Jun 10, 2007
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    8. Thanks Everyone :)

      This time around Ive been trying to remember to take pics at least once in a while to show the process of making him, which is sort difficult for me because i tend to get really absorbed when i sculpt, lol

      I used Premo for the skull for two reasons, I have a ton of it laying around my studio, for me Premo is easier to get and a bit cheaper than the gray Super Sculpey and Premo is far less likely to crack during baking when you sculpt large thick pieces with it (like a solid skull)
      I used Premo for the bones in the hands because its more durable, out of all the polymer clays Premo is the most durable, (or at least the most durable ive worked with) if i would have made those finger bones out of super sculpey then bent the armature wire most of the bones would have probably cracked.

      Thanks again :-)
      Donn
       
      #8 Donn, Jun 10, 2007
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    9. No wonder your work is so wonderful - you make it so very acurate. My respect for you just rose even more <3.

      My questions for you are:
      - You cast everything later on, correct? If so (and even if you don't) how do you keep everything hollow? I think I see how with the arms (dowel, right?).

      - I'm not sure I understand the faceplate concept ^^; Mind showing some pictures of that or explaining it more?

      - Why do you use gray-toned clay? I usually see most people using flesh colored, that's why I ask.
       
      #9 Kitunny, Jun 10, 2007
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    10. Wow, you take so much care and put so much detail into your sculpts. No wonder you havn't had any free time XD

      I remember seeing the pics of the new head a couple of days ago and being very impressed. The faceup is very realistic. He's still too gaunt of cheek for my tastes but you are a very talented man.

      I look forward to seeing the body when its complete.
       
      #10 cheshiretiffy, Jun 10, 2007
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    11. For some of my parts like the head, i make them hollow by molding in in halves then creating a coremold,..theres an old tutorial on that on my website---->link

      For pieces like my arms and legs i cast them solid then i drill them hollow on a drill press.

      I'll get more info up about the faceplates soon as i get some good new pics, it might take a week or so but ill do my best :^)

      I use the gray clay because its easier to see your flaws when your sculpting with a neutral opaque material, the flesh colored clay is slightly translucent making it more difficult to spot minor imperfections and bumps, the gray clay doesn't hide anything. When your sculpting something that's going to be molded its very important to make sure your master as flaw-free as possible before the molding process because silicone reproduces the finest detail including even tiny surface flaws.
      Besides that, i like the sculpting feel of the super sculpey firm a little better than regular super sculpey, but that's just a personal preference
       
      #11 Donn, Jun 10, 2007
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    12. Hnn...does the super sculpey get uber warm and hard to work with easily like regular super sculpey? <-- that's been my problem and I'm getting tired of going back and forth between my desk and the fridge =.=;
       
      #12 Kitunny, Jun 10, 2007
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    13. Donn, you are insane. But you probably know that already.


      ...How big is he?
       
      #13 Yukamina, Jun 10, 2007
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    14. No, the gray super sculpey firm doesnt tend to get to that "chewing gum stage" that the plain super sculpey does when warm, I think thats what they mean by calling it "firm" because in all honestly it feels softer to work with than the regular super sculpey, its just not as rubbery. (i hope that makes sense)

      (takes a bow) thank you, thank you,.. Yes i know im completely out of my mind but it does keep things interesting around here. ;) lol

      It looks like he will be around 29inches, I wont have a final number untill i joint his legs and ankles so it could change a little bit.
       
      #14 Donn, Jun 10, 2007
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    15. Thank you -^^- sorry about all the questions x_x
       
      #15 Kitunny, Jun 10, 2007
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    16. I dont mind at all, your completely welcome :)
       
      #16 Donn, Jun 10, 2007
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    17. 29...holy cow....
       
      #17 cheshiretiffy, Jun 10, 2007
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    18. So awesome! I admire your tenacity, focus and meticulousness. I'm surprised it hasn't taken you longer to come this far.
       
      #18 ArcaneMuse, Jun 10, 2007
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    19. Donn .. you are a genius!
       
      #19 Kaye, Jun 10, 2007
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    20. My gosh, a whole dolly skeleton! @o@
      That's amazing!!!!!!!!!
       
      #20 Wolfie Pie, Jun 10, 2007
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    21. Wow, that's a brilliant method for building the hands! I've tried to employ a similar method with the building up of muscle mass in a more realistic structure, but not to the success you've had. That's the difference between an experienced pro and a beginning hobbyist. :) Kudos, and I really appreciate the in-progress pictures.
       
      #21 kitsuneudon, Jun 10, 2007
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    22. This is totally great to see, but you realize that now people will want a doll of your "skeleton" as well! :)
       
      #22 bunnydots, Jun 10, 2007
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    23. I have a little tutorial on how to cast hollow arms and legs from solid masters you might find useful, saves so much time and dust!
       
      #23 lolipop, Jun 11, 2007
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    24. Wow, he's so detailed and realistic! Very beautiful ^_^
       
      #24 Devotchka, Jun 11, 2007
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    25. 0.0 wowow! I think that's just about the most scientific doll making I've ever seen! Awesome!
       
      #25 Travesty, Jun 11, 2007
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    26. Awww, Thanks Kaye, you have no idea how much that means coming from you, I think your work is STUNNING, i think you are the real genius.

      Haha, believe it or not i made a cast of the skull before i started sculpting over it, just in case i want to refine and add detail to it and use it as a doll prop or something,..or offer a skull headsculpt later on if i run out of ideas, lol

      That's a really cool idea, thank you for the link :-) I'm not sure it would work for me though, do you pressure cast your parts? I do and i think at 60psi it would either crush the straw or force resin into it...but either way you've got some great tutorials on your page and your finished doll looks beautiful!.

      To everyone else thanks for all the nice comments, I'm really glad you find the pics interesting :)

      I'll do my best to post some new stuff soon, right now im in the middle of sanding a bunch of sculpted parts and thats not to exciting, but soon as i have some interesting stuff ill post it,..

      thanks again,
      Donn
       
      #26 Donn, Jun 11, 2007
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    27. I didn't pressure cast but that probably would be a problem. You perhaps fill the straw somehow?
       
      #27 lolipop, Jun 11, 2007
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    28. Why not just use smaller sized dowel rods? Wouldn't those retain the shape you need and be reuseable?
       
      #28 Keanna, Jun 11, 2007
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    29. @_@ Wow
      That's very detailed to say the least, hehe
      I tried using a similar method (building up the muscles strip by strip) on my doll but it was air drying clay, and well.. it sanded wonderfully, I actually got one of the legs jointed nicely and everything, then one day I pick it up to go prime it and it just crumbles into dust and a bunch of tiny pieces..

      My craft store doesnt carry super sculpey firm, but they have normal super sculpey and I think maybe if I tried using premo as a base (for my air dry clay doll I used sculpey as a base.. having semi flexible bases in fragile clay is not good.. ) it would make it easier for me to sculpt around. I have trouble building up large masses of material without something to actually attach them to.

      This was my third time trying to make a doll and I failed again, go figure, but it always inspires me and makes me want to keep trying when I see someone else who's done it so successfully.


      Good luck finishing your doll, Donn~!
       
      #29 HeatherC19, Jun 12, 2007
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    30. Yes but you need to put them into the straw, the great thing about the straws is the resin doesn't stick to it so you can just pull them out when you are done, with wooden dowel the resin would stick and he hard to get out, but a combo of the 2 should work ok?
       
      #30 lolipop, Jun 12, 2007
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    31. Wow, I remember when you were just posting the pics for the first one! ^.^ Amazing! I am hoping to buy one of your dolls someday, Donn. :3

      Looking at the pictures of the head sculpts you have done, while the lips/mouth are obviously different from the first one they don't vary much on the newer sculpts. They're all along the thin upper/full bottom shape. The brows and forehead still kinda bug me too for some reason? XD

      I am soo looking forward to the completion of the new body it looks to me like it'll be stunning. I do hope as well that as you make new head sculpts they will be ones that differenciate even more from the rest. ^^

      *grins* Let there be more beautiful mouths(especially since there are so many kinds)!
       
      #31 Luminaire, Jun 12, 2007
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    32. ::worships::

      how much do you do custom dolls for? or existing molds O_O ?
       
      #32 die, Jun 12, 2007
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    33. Wow! That's just amazing! I might do that as well whenever I try my hand at making a doll. Mom has TONS of medical books laying around.
       
      #33 eristell_neko, Jun 13, 2007
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    34. Your work is amazing, thank you for sharing the progress shots! I'm blown away by the amount of detail you put into it.
       
      #34 Maiwenn, Jun 13, 2007
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    35. Oh holy wow...that's the most detailed take on sculpting a BJD that I've seen so far. And great results, too! You've floored me.
       
      #35 Bailonghu, Jun 13, 2007
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    36. Wow, that is really a neat way to go about doing it all! I can't wait to see your finished pictures of a full body. :)
       
      #36 armeleia, Jun 14, 2007
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    37. Is 60psi the general pressure required for collapsing the tiny air bubbles when pressure casting? Does it have to be 60, or would less pressure still work? (like around 50?) I'm having a hard time finding information on this, and would love your imput since I know you've been doing this for some time, your skill definitely shows in your work.
      I love the detail and realism you're putting into your newest doll sculpt, too. Keep up the good work, I'm just awed by all the extras you're including. Are you trying to put the asian dollmakers to shame? I think it's working. :)
       
      #37 kitsuneudon, Jun 16, 2007
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    38. Sorry for the long delay in posting..

      Hi Heather, Ive seen some incredibe things done with air dry clay, but i personally find it really hard to work with and it does tend to be brittle and shrink once it dries.

      If you decide to use sculpey, A good base for sculpey is either wood or paperclay armatures, ill be posting some info on how i make hollow sculpting armatures out of paperclay eventually,

      I get my sculpey-firm from The Complete Sculptor-----> link

      Go the the online catalog, then look under the clay index under polymer clay,..

      The Complete Sculptor is a great store, they have pretty much EVERYTHING related to sculpting....and i mean EVERYTHING, they also give great service and know about what they sell.

      Good luck and dont give up :-)

      I do plan on making quite a few different headsculpts with all sorts of mouths, noses, and eyeshapes,... Ive already gotten my first my custom face comission for this new body which will be a particular J-rocker,.... youll be seeing pics of him around Nov (if i get premission from the person who comissioned him)..

      Complete dolls with custom face sculpts are usually around $1200-$1500 depending on costume/ custom props, ect..

      thanks kitsuneudon,

      I believe you could probably get away with 40 as long as your mixing technique was good (not whipping air into your resin while you mix) I just like to be sure by going up to 60 that there are NO bubbles in my finisehd parts (i have a great hatred for bubbles) haha,.. and besides where would the fun be in dollmaking if there was no danger of instant death from blowing up a huge cast aluminum pressure chamber,..lol.., oh well at least it would make for an interesting epitaph.

      (im joking)

      sorta... ;^)

      To everyone else,.. thanks for the kind encouraging words and comments, (if i missed any questions just email me through my website) Id really like to get some new progress pics up before Otakon, but im pretty much doing work on my new doll day and night to get him finished in time for Otakon and im not taking a break to upload new pics till hes done ;^) if not before, then after the con i'll put some new info up.

      Oh yea sorry for all the misspellings, i havent had sleep in 48hours,...im actually starting to hallucinate,.....its kinda neat :^) haha,..off to bed.

      take care all, :)
      Donn
       
      #38 Donn, Jun 30, 2007
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    39. *claps* Yay! Sweet. ^.^ I can hardly wait to see him. ..wait November!? XD
      hehe ah well it'll be here before I know it. @.@; Time really does fly!

      btw

      get enough Sleep! *grin*
       
      #39 Luminaire, Jun 30, 2007
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    40. wow, that's amazing! he's so detailed he looks like a real person! O.O
       
      #40 flurryofdancingflames, Jun 30, 2007
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    41. Donn, you probably need help, but we love you anyway. :) Thank you for responding to my question about the pressure. That's a great comfort to me because the pressure chamber I recently picked up is only rated for 50psi, so I was starting to freak out when I read you talking about using 60psi. I'm not so fond of explosions, myself.
      Keep up the good work, love to see what you're up to! :aheartbea
       
      #41 kitsuneudon, Jul 2, 2007
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    42. Donn, I was starting to worry that I'd never hear from you again! *cries*

      But, now that that worry's over, I'd like to share this with you:

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      Indeed, that would be Criss Angel himself, holding Lucien. I was so excited, and Criss actually pantsed him right there in front of everyone! (Lucien didn't have the underwear piece on...) Anyway, it made for a very cool experience. <3

      Also, I absolutely cannot wait to see your "new" finished boy, and I'd very much like to see comparison pictures of the two types when he's finished.

      Much love,
      Kathryn
       
      #42 yaaravanesse, Jul 3, 2007
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    43. Awww thanks, I do need help but thats besides the point, hehe,.. My pressure chamber is a big heavy industrial one thats rated for 80psi so Im not being too reckless ;)

      heres a pic of mine.....>

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      Well Kathryn, I can die happy now knowing that Criss Angel pantsed one of my dolls :D

      OMG!! that is soooo freaking cool!!!!!, I :aheartbea Criss Angel, thank you soo much for posting this and Im glad to hear that Lucien is doing so well, My dolls seem to lead more interesting lives than i do!!........( jealous mumblings ),........ Ive never been de-pantsed by Criss Angel,.... :|........... yet ;)

      Seriously, thanks again for posting these! you totally made my day (week and month as well)

      Soon as i have my new body all put together I'll definitely post side by side/comparison pics,

      If you'd like to keep more up to date with my doll work heres my DA site----> link I use it as my main gallery so i post some of my more recent commission work there and i tend to update it more than my main website :^)

      thanks again!!
      Donn
       
      #43 Donn, Jul 4, 2007
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    44. Oh, I forgot to tell you Criss said he was interested in getting a boy for himself. I was really surprised. And he also said that "it" wasn't quite to scale, but could be with some fondling. I almost died!

      Also, I'm already watching you on DA, and have many pictures of Lucien up on mine: http://yaaravanesse.deviantart.com/
       
      #44 yaaravanesse, Jul 4, 2007
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    45. Such an amazing doll... better looking than any guy ive been near lol
       
      #45 I-Dream-Of-Dollfies, Jul 4, 2007
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    46. I can't wait to see a couple of full body pics ^_^

      Will the estimate for Gambit change at all, I wonder?
       
      #46 Haneino Tsukiko, Jul 27, 2007
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    47. I love the finished picture, but its not my kind of doll. I enjoyed seeing the progress!
       
      #47 Sweetiemi, Jul 27, 2007
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    48. Now *that* is a thing of beauty. I LOVE your other doll mold, but I think I may just like this one even more. Hopefully I'll be able to get my hands on one of these boys at some point, because you are one of the best artists I've seen. I had no idea anyone put that level of detail work into their sculpts, and I'm definitely liking the fact that yours looks more mature than some I've seen. The ones that have more cute, round faces don't really suit my tastes.
       
      #48 Hominivorax, Jul 28, 2007
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    49. It was neat seeing your sculpting process, Don. It is a lot like the method they taught us in school, and makes me want to dig out my medical anatomy book and sculpt muscle mass! Also cool to see someone using such an academic approach for doll sculpting. I remember a lot of the other students coming in with Bruno Lucchesi books which take one through sculpting a skeleton, body tissue and skin... and all of us being super impressed by the detail on his skeletons and pre-skin figures.

      Nice work! Can't wait to see more.
       
      #49 angeldevildolls, Jul 30, 2007
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    50. The new doll looks even more amazing in person...and the posing is just ridiculously awesome. I was astounded when I saw it at otakon. I couldn't stop going back to look at him (and probably creeped out a few people in the process). I've never really wanted a male doll but after seeing this one...I'm not sure that will last.
       
      #50 Bunnii, Jul 30, 2007
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    51. This is absolutely awesome!! Will you ever do a female sculpt/body???

      About pressure casting hollow limbs, Kaye taught me how to make silicone core molds using plastic tubing, which is then filled with a low viscosity silicone, like PinkySil or Bananaskin (or maybe Smooth-Sil with the Smooth On silicone thinner added?) The plastic tubing is cut to length ~ a couple inches longer than the part you want to hollow out (use one that is 8 or 10mm inner diameter) and then fill it with wooden skewers so it stays straight, then heat the tubing up, and cool it rapidly. Fill tubing with silicone and stand upright. Put wooden skewer into middle of silicone & tubing before the silicone sets; this to keep the coremold rigid when you insert it. I suggest pressurising the moulds before they cure or using a vacuum chamber if you happen to have one laying around, because as I'm sure you know, silicone gets bubbles just like resin. When the silicone is cured, pull the skewer out, and then pull the silicone out of the tubing, then re-insert the skewer into the tubing and the core mould is ready to go.

      Of course you'd also need to have key-holes inside the mould itself that the core can sit in. After you demould the part, pull the skewer out and then pull out the silicone, and voila you have just saved X amount of resin and whatever time you would have spent getting the hole drilled, and it's dead straight and will come out in the right spot and not out the side of the leg or arm. Just make the key-holes nice and snug so the coremould can't slip out.
       
      #51 twigling, Aug 4, 2007
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    52. I love your dolls.
      They are all so beautiful. <3
      I've checked out your work. :3

      I plan to order a customized doll from you once I have the money.
      So just you wait! 8D
       
      #52 Ahmuhmia, Aug 6, 2007
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    53. I love your dolls too. I would love to own another one! I have Tyler and he needs another pal!
       
      #53 KGdaKat, Aug 6, 2007
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    54. Hi everyone sorry for the LOOOONG delay in posting/responding. Ive been on a race against time to finish him before Otakon and it took allot out of me. He did get finished in time to display at the convention (yay) and full body pics can be seen of him at the end of the thread here (click me)

      The custom quote may be a bit more, the new doll had more parts and a very details sculpt making him a bit more time consuming to cast. My old sculpt was $675 for a base doll my new Doll is $875 (although that does include a face-up and blushing plus seam removal.) Feel free to email or send me a PM if your still interested :-)

      Thanks Hominivorax, I try my best to get as much detail into my sculpts as i can and with my newest sculpt i was really trying for a more mature look. I'm glad you like him :-)

      Back in art school i always sculpted from the skeleton up when i was going for realism, In this sculpt i was going for realism so i decided to make him this way, i still had some fun with adding my style to certain parts of him but for the most part his proportions are accurate, some bits of anatomy had to be sacrificed for jointing and typically the more poseable a doll is the more their anatomy has to be altered at the joints.

      Thanks for dropping by at Otakon!! and no you did'nt creep anyone out, haha, I intend on doing more conventions just to display so people can see my work in real life. Its hard to see the detail and form properly in photos.
      Thank you again for visiting at Otakon, hopefully ill be there again next year :-)

      Hi Twigling, Im serriously thinking about a female sculpt, so maybe :-)

      Thats a really great idea for casting hollow limbs, I do have a vacuum chamber as well (its impossible to make nice molds with mold max without one)
      I will be sure to try this, Although Ive gotten very fast at drilling cores and i have a big industrial drill press with a 6 inch pull (most presses have a 4 inch pull at most)
      My last doll sculpt had 10.5 inch long very thin lower legs and over time Ive trained myself at getting the drill to meet up pretty well,

      Besides using a 400 pound piece of shop equipment to make dolls makes me feel all manly :sweat hahah. ;)

      Thanks Ahmuhmia, I am still doing customs so just let me know when you are ready. :-)

      Thats awesome! please let me know when your ready. Id love to make you another doll, Tyler is still one of my favorite designs :)
       
      #54 Donn, Aug 8, 2007
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    55. I don't have much to say that hasn't been said all ready. I saw you at Otakon with this new doll and two others, and they were all stunning. I have noticed that with mass-produced dolls, it's mostly impossible to get real details in there to make the doll realistic. I am not a fan of cutesy or baby-like dolls, so detail is always appreciated. x3

      How many dolls do you think you have done, total? This is just a random question, don't go out of your way to count if you're not sure. x3 I looked at the bio on your site and it seems like you've been sculpting for a while; your technique certainly looks like it's been perfected. Are there any dolls lying around who were rejects, before you really got your style down?

      I would definitely like to see a tutorial on hollow armatures, if you ever happen to have the time. Making things isn't so bad, but making them hollow is just not working out for me. o_o

      Anyway, amazing work as always. <3 Keep it up, I'm watching you on DA so I shall see your work no matter what. x3
       
      #55 L'Okapi, Aug 8, 2007
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    56. omg he's so anatomically correct its @_@.....

      how much did it cost to make?
      i wna make one too... but im very broke and have no source of income =(((
       
      #56 asphalt, Aug 8, 2007
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    57. Theres this guy at my job who looks just like this doll but not so buff... he's russian, and when it was his first day I was like ".... O_O didn't I see a smaller version of you at otakon?" and he was like "what?" XD and I was like "nevermind"
       
      #57 Yanomi, Aug 9, 2007
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    58. I think you are a genius!

      Is fantastic!!!
       
      #58 Jasone, Aug 15, 2007
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    59. WOW - thats the only thing i can say!

      If i ever get the money, i need one of your gyus

      But if i order him costum, can i then get hin in a kind of tanned?
       
      #59 lace84, Aug 15, 2007
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    60. amazing 0_0 he looks good ^^
       
      #60 dreamfairy, Aug 16, 2007
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