I'm confused. I recieved my Chiwoo yesterday. I know that all the CP boys have the same body, right? Have they changed the mold recently? I recieved my El in June of this year and he is much smaller and slimmer all over than Chiwoo. I lined them up with their feet along a wall and took this picture. You can see that the arms are longer, the upper thigh piece is longer (from knee to hip), and the torso is also taller. When standing he is ALOT taller than my El. He also feels heavier and "chunkier". His torso feels much bigger. His shoulders are even wider. In fact after playing with him yesterday I picked my El up and suddenly he felt so slender and frail because I was used to how Chiwoo felt. Has anyone else noticed this with their dolls? This is the two of them standing barefoot and back to back. I just want to clarify that I am not unhappy in ANY way. My Chiwoo arrived within two weeks of ordering and his faceup is amazing. (And I normally dislike default faceups.) His resin is beautiful also. I couldn't be happier! I am just curious about the differences. Edit: I measured my boys to find where the differences are exactly. Here's what I got. Chiwoos forearm is 1/8 inch longer than El His lower leg is 1/4 inch longer The body from top of neck to foot is 1/2 inch taller El's body (without head) is 20.75 inches tall Chiwoo's is 21.25 inches With their heads on El is 24 inches Chiwoo is 24.25 inches
That's very odd... o_O It may be a while before I get my new boy body, but I have a Chiwoo from a year or so ago... That last picture looks like.... Uwah! look out Tsuzuki-san, Hisoka-kun had a growth spurt~~~~!!!!! >w<;; Hisoka: Now I can beat you up for doing stupid things -_-### Tsuzuki: .. eh? ;_;
*lol* I actually said yesterday in my "new doll high" (which is like being drunk I think) that it was like some "bad AU doujinshi" where Hisoka is the big bad seme and Tsuzuki is a frail little wimp! XD
Wow that's really interesting! I wish I could tell you more or answer your question, but I don't have anyone to compair my boy to.
huh... interesting. I'll let you know if I also experience the same thing as soon as my new boy arrives. My El is over a year old... =x
I don't have two CP boys, but I know my El's head is smaller than my friend's Chiwoo. At a meeting we tried lots of wigs and the DW-01 didn't fit Chiwoo, but was perfect for El. o_o About the height I can't say anything ^^; I dunno why... maybe Luts molds are not all the same size?
Well, Lelie, Chiwoo has a HUGE NOGGIN XD; I love him XD; It's possible that one of the mold sets used to cast was getting old and shrinking (silicon-based molds will shrink after a lot of use) and then they replaced it with a new one which was the original size.. .. but frankly, that seems a bit odd, if you ask me. And given the fact that they haven't announced a change in the height of the boys (it's still 60.5 cm, IIRC) I'm really not sure what to think, now @@;
o_O Their height do seem different... Still, your Chiwoo is so cute I don't knwo much about CP dolls so I don't have much to say >_<
Whoa, there's quite a difference. o.o That's really amazing. I'd love to see a bunch of CP dolls lined up together to see the variance in skintone and size. ^^ By the way, your boys are so handsome. ♥
WOW! :O That's crazy... I would've immediately assumed it was the huge Chiwoo melon head that did it, but wow, that's really the body. Crazy. Maybe it has something to do with the new resin they're using? Or like Shadrad said, the mold shrinking thing... I've noticed this happening with Souldolls, I was curious if any other companies had this "problem" too. All my CP boys bodies are the same size... Curiouser and curiouser... Aside from that. Omg he's adorable! His faceup is precious and I love his eyes. Such a cute Hisoka. Is he normal skin? He looks so light. I know they're working on the resin color thing, I wonder if this will be a more standard color for them. I think someone ficced that once... XD None of my boys are new, but you can see that mine are all the same size and resin differences for them here: http://www.obsessive-compulsive.org/dolls/DelfsResinComp.jpg I'd love to be able to compare Kurosaki to my boys... *.* You know, you're making it harder and harder for me to resist the draw of a Muraki doll. >o< As it is I'm thiiis close *holds fingers real close together* to making my Vamp elf El into Terazuma. :cry:
OMG he would make the perfest Terazuma! If other people make Yami characters there just has to be a doll meet so we can have group pics! And he is normal tone. He photographs alot lighter than what he is though. I think it's because he does have a rather pink tone but it doesn't show in pics thereby making him just look pale.
You know, speaking of Breakaway, it said he'd come with a limited body, but nobody seems to know what that means exactly. I wonder if it means a taller more muscular body, and somehow your Chiwoo ended up getting a Breakaway body? This is only speculation. I've no idea what the Breakaway body is like. XP But if it really is different and there was an accidental switch (since your Chiwoo is newer too) it might be an explanation...
I asked about the Breakaway body on the Luts boards, and Sean mentioned in his replies to both myself and someone else that the Breakaway body is actually the standard boy body. I didn't want to be rude so I didn't ask why the heck it was in the description, then. ^_^;;
I just added some measurements to my original post. He is indeed taller and I measured the body without the head. I know Chiwoo has a bigger head but that is not whats causing these differences. His arms and legs are even bigger around! I'm still confused! I want to ask Luts about it but I know they are busy and it doesn't bother me. Maybe after christmas when it's less busy for them I will ask.
Makes me wonder what my DELF's skin looks like compared to others. ._. I have a friend who would die for a Muraki doll. She's been obsessed with him for years. x'D
*waves goodbye to her theory as it flies out the window* Well, that at least answers my curiosity about Breakaway. XD Thanks, Fukurou!
Your Chiwoo IS adorable!!!! (Your El is wonderful, too, but I always like Els!) This thread is very interesting! I have an El (elf) that I bought in '04, but no newer boy to compare him to... I wonder if all the new bodies are taller? Maybe do a height measurement of the body and arms and legs, and total height of body--and then we can compare!
April I just added total height measurements to my original post. Maybe you and some other CP owners can compare for me?
As far as the special body, I understand the mistake, I think.. He said it's the same body that comes with 'El Special' meaning... it's the (El) special body XD;;; oops!
Ohhhh, that would make sense. Wonder if they were sitting there thinking "Why the heck are all these people asking what's different about the body?" XD
Wait a second... is that how tall they are? Am I having a stupid moment here or something, because my EL's only 24 inches tall. o.o
XD I think Asato made a silly typo. I really doubt her El's head is 19 inches. XD For the record, I just measured Ryou, and he's exactly 24". He WOULD! The only reason I'm hesitating is because I wouldn't know what to name him. Terazuma's a bit of a mouthful and I've already got a doll named Hajime! Though I HAVE been debating on changing his name.... WAHH! Dilemma! ;o; And yes! YnM meet!
OMG I feel like a dumbass! I fixed the measurements. I was using a fabric tape measure and measured from the wrong end.
I have to be a dork and be very amused as how that one picture reminds me of the picture from one of the artbooks where the caption is like "If Hisoka had continued to grow" or something. He looks so smug being taller than Tsuzuki. XD Randomly on-topic but also still amazingly off-topic... Now I want a Yami character doll. Maybe they can cosplay one day. XD My dreaming Shiwoo can be Touda. *-*
I am curious what picture that is now! I wasn't aware there was such a caption!! I have to see that! And you guys are all making me so happy with the talk of other Yami dolls! Now I really do want to have a group photo of the whole cast! XD
http://www.obsessive-compulsive.org/omgwtfhisoka.jpg TA DA! But he'd need like... a Souldoll body. *slobbers*
*____* You just made my day! I have never seen that! Thank you SO much!!! Now I kinda like the fact that he's bigger! I don't think Asato is real happy about it but he'll adjust! XD
LOL! That makes sense then. X'D I couldn't figure out how you got that measurement because it didn't make sense that it was just a 'typo'. Don't worry, I make stupid mistakes ALL the time. 8D I have the artbook that's in!! X'D Priceless.
XD Yay! I don't have to go dig out the book and scan it. And wow... you're right. Maybe he can't be Touda afterall. XD He'll be Kijin or somebody. Kijin is so cool... :\ OMG. My Chiwoo can be Hijiri! XD ....I am way too amused with this. Sorry.
Hmm...well I just measured Ahriman's body, and he's just about one month old, without his head he's the same height as your Chiwoo, 21.25 inches. So maybe your El's body was cast from an older mold, whereas Chiwoo was from a new one? I don't think I've ever heard of that though. How strange!
I have two guesses: 1/ El's body was cast from an older mold (because silicon shrinks, etc. etc.) 2/ Maybe they changed the resin? Because some types of resin have a larger shrinkage than others, so maybe the older resin shrank more than the new one? *shrugs* Ah well. *plots for CP boys* X3
Kivara has Decided to cosplay as Tatsumi -and- Byakko this year at Animazment -sigh- I always thought Chiwoo would be smaller than El, but apparently this is not the case? I was thinking of getting a Chiwoo in the future, but now I don't think I will. He's too big, and I wanted him to look delicate and small.
Oh thats exciting to hear!! My boys will be at AZ as well as Hisoka and Tsuzuki! Must...take...pictures!! I thought it would bother me that Chiwoo was bigger but I'm actually OK with it. I had narrowed it down to a Volks Michael or Chiwoo. Michael would have been the appropriate size but I am not nearly as fond of his face. However I find Chiwoo so beautiful that the size difference just isn't an issue with me anymore. I'll be looking foward to AZ alot now!
Mm, AZ~~ I'll see you guys there XD <-- has an art table I have a Chiwoo, but I'm so lazy T-T; I dont think I could make cosplay in time... unless I magically got a dark wig and shirt and pants to make him into Hijiri >_> ... Nephirim, why not get the Mini Fee Chiwoo? He's delicate and small! XD!
Wow! this is going to be completely awesome! I wish I had an art table, but I've no clue how to go about getting one. -shrug- I'm sure we'll all have an awesome time! Kivara and I will be stalking many people. -purr- We need to plan to meet somewhere!
I don't have her here to measure right now, but I *swear* that Jessamine (BW Soony) is a fraction taller than Aislinn (Normalskin Lishe) . . . and they have the same "Mature" body. And it's not just Jess' big ol' head, either . . . I'll have to do girl-body-measurements and report back! -- A
actually, Yes, I noticed my breakaway is about a cm or two taller than my El. =o I'll take some more comparison shots after my breakaway gets his head put back on (currently in the middle of painting him)
It's a bit hard for me to accurately measure... I could be off since I'm eye-balling were the tape measure is falling... Elf El, late 2004-- Body--foot to top of neck-- 21.25" Total height with head-- 23.75" I
I know you're very happy with your Hisoka, but just a thought: Would it be possible for them to switch bodies? Because then Tsuzuki would be the taller one, which is novel considering they're supposed to have the same sized body!
Thats really odd! I got my Elf El when they came out last year and I *finaly* got the vap head a body. It came yesterday and hes the same size as his brother. They are both BW, if that helps! Its cool tho that some are biger! Charlie*^_^*
My friend mentioned that idea as well but their resin is waaaayyy too different to be able to do that. Not to mention that Chiwoos larger noggin' would look odd on the smaller body! XD
YES!!! It is true!!! I noticed as well!!! My elf shiwoo is taller, heavier, more muscular, broader and defiently sturdier than my more recent El. It is definetly a different sculpt. Perhaps the mold deteriorated and they had to re-sculpt it (not much surprise, they do it over and over with each verison of the head, as an example, all lishe versions are different sculptures from the scratch) But yes, you are totally right. It's another body!
I personally think it's kind of neat.. So each doll is a little unique, instead of them all being the same.