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5th Motif Discussion - part 4

Dec 3, 2017

    1. I love this! I forget where I saw it before. Definitely would love to see them all. But, for me, having them downloaded to a file on my pc is good enough. If you could post them on your site, we could take what we wanted.
      What a lovely idea. BJDivas being good friends to all of us. :love
       
    2. @BJDivas - I would absolutely love a set of prints! :D
       
    3. Definitely interested! I hoped to get one (or two) of those with the hands set order (I didn't miss the ordering period for the hands, did I?).
       
    4. Definitely interested! :D
       
    5. I would love those prints too :D
       
    6. Thanks for the feedback everyone! :chibi We'll organize the prints into sets, as well as scan them in for those that want just the digital versions, and figure out the shipping cost. More info on that when we have it all figured out. :) Unfortunately they can't be shipped with the hands sets, because Mr. Cho ships them directly and the prints are with us in the US.

      The hands sets will be sold sometime this month. We wanted to do them in the new year and avoid the end of the year holiday rush. We'll give you guys a head's up before the ordering opens.
       
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    7. @BJDivas is there any word from dollshe with the new resin colors for fresh, oriental and copper oriental? I know Mr. Cho discussed it on his facebook, but I haven't heard anything about it from the actual casting company. I wanted to get a set of the fifth motif hands, but if the resin color is going to be different enough, it may not be worth it for me personally.
       
    8. No word from Dollshe I'm afraid. :(
       
    9. I asked him for examples of fresh and oriental today in a DM on IG.
       
    10. @Mahgiep if you're interested, I know he posted compairsons of the three know effected resins here on his facebook. But if it's an actual change or an error in casting of that set or several batches, I can't say for sure.
       
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    11. Hi everyone!

      So I've recently realized that I have a pair of timeless' hands in my drawer, and I haven't used them. Like, I never did.

      I guess I could mod them - but I'm not sure that it's goin to look okay - so here comes my question: Did anybody try to "extend" the nails of 5th Motif hands? Can you share a pic of that mod with me? I don't want mess up these gorgeous hands.

      And a crazy question no.2 - did anybody try 5th Motif hands on a Dollstown 18yr female(!) body? Is that even possible? I'd love to see a pic too even if it looks weird or bad.

      Thanks in advance!
       
      #851 Synchytrium, Jan 2, 2020
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    12. There's this lovey example from Instagram!
      Matchless Shamelessness on Instagram: “Happy new year y’all!! It’s been such a wild ride omg. Lysander arrived, Forgotten is finished, I got so many minifee heads lmao and I got…”
       
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    13. I got my hand sets from Mr Cho :D
      I bought the hands in Honey Caramel Brown and Pure Avatar Blue and they are amazing!
       
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    14. Oo! Show us please!
       
    15. My Venitu arrived a few days ago! I gave him his face yesterday and managed to take a few pictures today :D

      Please meet Zenon (or Zen)~ I'm so glad to be officially part of the 5th Motif club :dance

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    16. @kagami
      He's lovely and I love they way you've dressed him! :chocoheart
       
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    17. He and my Kris Wu have a similar style. It's great to have one doll who dresses unconventionally with style. It really frees me up! It really has set a standard for all my dolls, too. You will have so much fun with him!
       
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    18. These are my new hands.
      The picture is a little dark, but the sun is set already and my light is not good.

      [​IMG]
       
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    19. @Prinsessen
      Those colors look amazing next to each other though. It's a very pleasing photo.
       
    20. That photo of the hands reminds me of an album cover. :XD:
       
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    21. @Lady Ravenswood @Mahgiep thank you so much :XD: I had in mind a specific style for him (omg that Kris Wu reference! XD I can see it!) and I'm glad you guys enjoy it ahahahha it's very liberating to go a bit strange with his wardrobe :love

      @Prinsessen wow those hands are stunning.. I can't wait to get a set for myself.. I've been staring at Zenon's hands (and feet) non stop since he arrived.. :nosebleed
       
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    22. I'm going insane! I loooove my new boy, who just came home last weekend. I've got some amazing eyes on order for him, as well as some really swank leather trousers.

      ...but I can't for the life of me find a good wig maker who works with his size in alpaca. It seems like most everyone does MSD sizes there! Any recommendations?
       
    23. Ariel in a mood. (when is he not?)

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    24. There are quite a few wig makers on IG if you want to look around there. Here is one who works on Venitu heads :)
      JoJo (@jojozaimaoxian) • Instagram photos and videos
       
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    25. @kagami - He's gorgeous! :D I adore his pouty face.

      @Prinsessen - Ooh those colours are stunning! They look very nice beside each other.

      @petiteballerine - I love how effortlessly pretty he is. He's one of my favourites. <3
       
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    26. Thanks evrryone for the nice comments about my new hands. I really love these colours (blue is for my Goohwa and brown is for Venitu) and can’t wait to actually have time to play with them :D
       
    27. Mr. Cho showed us some sneak peeks of the upcoming (girl) doll. I'm not sure if we're allowed to pass those images along, but let's just say that she's gorgeous. :kitty1 That's of course not surprising considering it's Mr. Cho.

      As for the details, based on what we've seen so far, she has a realistic body shape and posture rather than the idealized aesthetic that we've gotten used to seeing in female dolls (in other words, no painfully arched back and upward-thrusting chest). Her curves and volume feel like flesh, everything about her is reminiscent of classical sculptures. We don't know if he plans to offer different bust sizes, but the one she was shown with is what would be described as the petite size, which seems to be what most of owners of female dolls gravitate towards these days. Furthermore, they have a very natural drooping shape. Her belly isn't totally flat, there's a pleasant curve there, and her butt is pleasantly plump. She looks like a healthy woman that you'd see in your life rather than a supermodel that you'd only see in pictures.

      Really, my words hardly do the preview justice. :XD:
       
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    28. That's so exciting! Can't wait to see her (when the teasers are ready to come out of course). :D
       
    29. @BJDivas - do you know yet if they will be cast by Dollshe? (dreaming of honeyskin) :whee:
       
    30. We don't have any information about that yet. I think Mr. Cho is still figuring it out. He hasn't been able to find a caster whose quality he's happy with, but he also doesn't like the wait time associated with Dollshe's casting.
       
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    31. @BJDivas Perhaps he should contact Helene of Rugged Realism. She seems quite happy with her caster and her dolls appear to be very good quality. The wait time is definitely much faster than Dollshe.
       
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    32. Ooh @BJDivas you tease! :whee: I'm not much into female dolls, but she sounds wonderful so far. And I sort of do need a nice female doll at some point anyway. Going off how Mr Cho created Venitu and Goohwa...I think I'm in for a chance at actually falling for a female doll.
      I also second contacting Helene - her caster did a fantastic job, and she's a long time fan of Dollshe's resin.
       
    33. Sounds very amazing with a girl :D
      I think I remember he talked about making a smaller doll because the SDs were too big for him, but is the new girl MSD sized or a small SD or do we not know? I can’t remember having it confirmed, but maybe some of you know?
       
    34. @BJDivas thank you for teasing us! Please tease us more hahaha! :D it's really exciting to know that he's got a girl in the works. I can't wait to see what she looks like... :love I would also third the notion of contacting Helene of Rugged Realism to put Mr Cho in contact with their caster!
       
    35. Oh, hehe, I had thought of Rugged Realism's caster first thing too! :XD:

      @Prinsessen
      I think I remember him saying the MSD sculpt was going to be anime style, but then he changed his mind to do a realistic sculpt to match Venitu/Goohwa instead. So I think he said she'd be SD? I could be wrong.
       
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    36. @Lady Ravenswood
      I didn’t hear that, but I definitely hope that is the case :D
       
    37. From what we could see, the girl is SD size. As for finding a caster, the biggest complication is that he prefers it to be someplace within South Korea, so that he can go in person to check on the progress as well as quality. He's also worried about damages from shipping for a foreign caster. There are a lot of good and reliable casters in China, but Mr. Cho is concerned about recasters. It's something he has to think about some more.
       
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    38. Yes, I thought of that as well. It's not like the sculpt will have a replica if damage happens in transport after all his work. Still others are taking the chance successfully. He has had the luxury of a local caster and the ability to oversee all stages, so it must be very hard to do otherwise. I wonder who SartoriaJ is using for their new girl...
       
    39. Ah that would make sense. I hope he can find a good caster for her soon. :)
       
    40. my Venitu came yesterday, he is so beautiful. it is going to be so difficult to settle on a look for him. i just adore his stubborn face.
      for now, he wound up with a sort of apricot ginger hair colour. I am very excited to be a part of the set of hands order when it occurs, and the little sketches too if any are still available.
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    41. I need to add this girl to my "watch list". I am very eager to see her, the natural body is exactly what I have been looking for. I second the Dollshe caster being rather slow though, has there even been any updates on the 8 hands set? I'm still willing to order one as are probably many others, but it seems that folks who ordered ages ago aren't getting theirs either. Plus I am a bit concerned about the fact that Dollshe Oriental resin has changed a lot after 2017-2018 and might not match anymore (I cannot recall which year my Venitus were cast lol). Both of my Venitus have just been in a dark box most of their life but still Dollshe 2019 Oriental I have is very pink/dark in comparison even in places such as inside the headcap, more than can be explained by natural yellowing I think.

      Edit: and also the caster Helene of Rugged Realism used is really good. I have painted three heads by them and respectively I have dolls/heads cast by them in three shades. They don't make exactly perfect colour matches to Dollshe resin even if it is sent in as a reference (one of the three colours I got matched well even though all three were more or less supposed to), but the feel of the resin is very nice and smooth and thick. There are some resin residues inside that are absent in Dollshe dolls, but the outside is just as good. I don't know if they offer translucent resin though. And them being based in China might be a problem to the artist.
       
      #883 vauhtikatti, Jan 25, 2020
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    42. @Grimalkin - I really like that wig colour on him! :D
       
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    43. @Grimalkin What a lovely boy.. :XD:

      I did Zenon's faceup again because I was not completely happy with the last one. This one's slightly better, but still needs work. Here he is on his smoke break :D

      [​IMG]
       
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    44. @kagami - he looks really good! i love all the little pins on his coat, and the cigarette has that uneven burn, a really nice detail!
       
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    45. @kagami - Oh he's gorgeous! I love how you've painted his scars!
       
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    46. @Grimalkin thank you! I got a little creative with my jewelry box with those pins XD and I agree about the cigarette! I found it off Taobao for a few dollars! Totally worth it :XD:

      @Quiet and Insane Thank you!!! The scars were the parts that gave me the most anxiety *_*

      @BJDivas thank you for the heads up! I'm definitely interested in a set in the old copper oriental colour if I don't manage to snag one in this sale! :D
       
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    47. @kagami - I understand that feeling. Scars and tattoos can be nerve-wreaking!
       
    48. @BJDivas - are the sets of 8 hands in the old resin? and thank you :)
       
    49. @BJDivas That's great news! I hope I can manage to stay up when the sale is, because I know those'll be gone in minutes. That is just what I need for my boys, they're so much different color from the current Dollshe Oriental. Please announce the time of the sale when you know it, I'll be ready!
       
    50. @vauhtikatti - regular hands & some phone hands are in there now... woot!

      also, i tried to search, but i can't find much, maybe because not too many people have "new" dolls from Dollshe.
      or maybe i'm in the wrong places searching, feel free to point me :) . but here's my Q:

      Does anyone know what is the noticeable difference in the new resin colours? is it a shift of light/dark or actual tone like pinker/yellower etc?
       
    51. Oriental is pinker. Not sure but it looks darker in photos to me.
       
    52. @Grimalkin I know for sure only about oriental as it is the only one I have both from 2017 and 2019, but the new oriental is a bit darker and pinker, enough to be "off" as a match in my opinion. I can take you a picture.
       
    53. ^^ that would be really nice :)
      i'm sort of wondering if i get a shot at the 8 hands to buy a shade lighter then, since my guy is from 2016 and oriental resin. then just blush to match...
       
    54. Okay, I actually noticed I also have some Dollshe Fresh from 2017. I don't know if I should consider this a warning sign that I have more dolls than I remember...? Anyway, all my dolls are stored in boxes and I refrain from giving them any sun, so this should be a decent reference. Fresh hasn't changed so much it wouldn't match with a blushing, it's just a little more pink and maybe even lighter, but the Oriental is already pretty different. I'm sorry for the lack of daylight (Finland, man), but I took two photos, with a plant light and in my normal room lightning. I sometimes have problems with my pictures showing due to the size of the phone photos, but if it doesn't show, then I'll retry until it will!

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    55. I have the old Pure Pale and the new resin hand set I got is more white, for what that is worth in terms of resin change on that color. (Of course, I'm sure my Venitu has mellowed some over the years too!)

      Here's an unedited photo with natural daylight:
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      It's not very noticeable in photos, but in person there is more of a difference. So it's not too bad for that color and a little blushing would even it out fairly well. The old Pure Pale had purple/green undertones, and the new Pure Pale is more of a white, white.

      @BJDivas
      Thanks for the heads up about the basic hand being up for sale. :chocoheart
      These basic hands are some of my favorite in the whole hobby!
       
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    56. Yes, the ones we'll be putting up are all in the old resin.

      The shift appears to be towards a more pink tone in all of the colors.
       
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    57. thank you all for the pictures and information. :thumbup
      it's interesting how different the oriental shade is, that's a big shift!
       
    58. Damn, I missed out on the hands. I only kept seeing internal server error for 5 minutes, then when it finally cleared, everything except the Honey skin option was already "sold out". Incredible, I didn't think they would be this popular. If I had known this is the chances I have with our freebie internet, I would be in bed now lol.

      It's a shame I will now probably never be able to own this set, knowing how awful the match on the newer ones is, I wonder why will Dollshe not just cast in the old resins. Judging by the demand they'd have a hundred paying customers right away.