Hybrids Dollshe head / body swaps?

I do apologise for posting again, however I'd like to share my photos (bad quality, however) of Yukinojo on Husky's body. I'm assuming his body is exactly the same as Hound's. The resin match is not very good in real life, though I believe airbrushing would take care of this problem pretty well.


Photo taken with flash. You can almost get away with the resin mismatch.


The resin mismatch is more apparent here, though it's a good angle to take photos of.


You can clearly sell how the resin is mismatched, but also, you can see how the neck looks proportional to the head. Yukinojo has the same length of head as Husky, though Yukinojo'd head is a bit wider (perhaps by a total of 0.7 cm)

Also, I'd like to link you to one of the most amazing heads that could fit Hound's body perfectly well. I plan to get one myself. I am absolutely besotted.

Elysium Hugo Head on a Hound body

 

I saw a Yukinojo head on a Dollshe Husky body on eBay recently. The proportion looked good, but the description said the body had been airbrushed so the resin would match. :/ I saved a couple of the pics for my own reference but I'm not sure if it's okay to post them here since it's not my doll.

Anyway, here's my contribution for what it's worth... a Volks pureskin Heath head on a normal skin Dollshe body (shown with a white SA Hound for comparison). As you can see, not only is the Dollshe neck too big, but the pureskin resin doesn't match the normal Dollshe resin at all. The white skin, however, looks like it may be a closer match, but I didn't think to try that at the time. o_0

 

This was so scary. I never took my boys’ heads off before. But there's a first time for everything!

I put Jared’s (Dollshe Hound) head on Kail’s (Latidoll K) body. Jared is way bigger. His head swallowed up most of Kail’s neck. And I could barely get his head to move once it was on. I tried to put Kail’s head on Jared’s body, but it was too small to fit. (So I didn’t take pictures. Sorry.) Jared’s resin (normal skin) is also much lighter and less pink. It looks very strange in person, so I don’t know if this would be a great combination for your friend (unless he doesn’t care about those issues).







I hope this helps!

 

That might have a little to do with it. But their neck measurements are slightly different. Latidoll Reds are 10.5cm and Hounds are 11.2cm. And Latidoll’s necks aren’t really that short. If I don’t fasten on Jared’s head and prop it up to where Kail’s head would stop on the neck it doesn’t look AS odd (but the head’s still a bit big).

 

Hound has the biggest head, and about the only other body he looks ok on is a Dollzone (the DZ normal skin, though, doesn't match. You'd have to get a WS and blush appropriately). I've seen him on a smaller body than the Dollshe, and while he fit, he was a little *large*. The hound head would probably fit good on the Dollmore model body -

Saint and Bernard are smaller heads than Hound, and they sit differently on the neck. I'm bringing together a Saint head and an Iplehouse body (old style - the new body appears to be a bit taller), and the neck fits great. Again, though, the WS tones would be close enough to fudge. I'm only getting this head to match a NS IP body (which is on the pale side, though), because the face-up artist used a white head and completely painted the face.

I think Bernard could probably also fit the IP body. Don't know about Husky.

 

Follow-up on a Saint head on an IP body: It's not bad at all. However, there's a bit of a circular "indent" around the top of the neck, since the DS head was incut to rest on a larger circumference neck. But hair covers this in the back, and it's really only noticeable from below in the front.

The major negative I'm finding is in the movement of the head. The S-hook seats into the oddly carved-out opening of the DS head (where DS uses a resin locking piece). I can go side to side ok, but since the Saint head's neck hole is already positioned as far back as possible (actually further back than on the hound head, it looks), trying to get him to "hang" his head forward is almost impossible, since with only a slight movement forward, the cords inside are pressing heavily against the front of the neck hole, and tend to *twitch* backwards into a more comfortable position.

I wanted to try one of Batchix's neck donuts I have handy, but the stringing is very tight on this body, and even with pliers, I can't pull it up much more to insert the donut. Will try doing a search for posts about alternatives to a clay donut. Something flatter might do. Or I'll have to mold and bake a piece to sit inside the odd neck opening myself.

Even with the problems, though, I like the look on the IP body. The head is actually the same size as the Lion head, even a bit narrower. The eyes certainly are smaller. I wish the hands were a little more defined (this is the V3 body), but I can take care of that down the line. Here's his first appearance: http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114880

 

I really love my Saint, and some parts of the Hound body I really do like - I kind of like the gauntness of it, and the hands are wonderful.

However, I find him just a bit too ungainly, and I'd rather a better posing body for him.

Does anyone have suggestions for any alternatives? I've seen Hound heads on Dollzone 1/3 bodies, and I wondered how good the resin match is (my Saint is normalskin). Also, what about on Model Boy bodies?

I'm also open to the idea of getting a slightly shorter body for him, as the Saint head is pretty small anyway. I was thinking about a D.O.T body, has anyone tried this?

I'd love any advice, particularly on resin matches, and which bodies are decent posers!

 

if you are thinking of a model boy's head on a DS body I don't really find the fitting too good. At least I find Kyle Reese's head seems a little on the small side on a hound body.
Dollmore's normal skin resin is also more pink than the Dollshe ones.
My DS body is pretty old and yellowed, but this headcap is from a head I bought recently.
Left Dollmore, Right Dollshe
Both normal skin

 

DS Van on SD13 boy

 

I always thought that Saint and Bernard were among Dollshe's most natural head shapes but for some reason the heads are smaller in relation to the bodies compared with Hound and the other Dollshe boys. I always loved my Connor (SA Bernard) and finally got around to settling his head on an Angel of Dream 1/3 body. These bodies can be purchased separately and come from China, so they are not at all expensive. The body is slightly shorter than my tall Elfdoll or my Iplehouse Aaron, but it is quite stocky and Connor poses like a dream. He has not been sueded or wired but he stands without effort and can hold his arms up without any bother.

Here he is - with and without clothes.

 

Woah, How well does the head fit the neck? Is it a gaping hole or fit nicely? Did you have to mod it?

 

It fits very snug. I didn't have to mod it at all, but the AoD body is very tightly strung and attaching the head without a second pair of hands was a bit of a struggle but well worth it. The head turns easily but not a lot of up and down movement.

 

I find it difficult to put Dollshe heads on other bodies because the neck mechanism on Dollshe is so different. Would like to hear what other people think about that.

 

Same here. My saint head doesn't fit Dollzone 70cm. It's impossible.

 

It's not impossible. Hound head is the best size match for a DZ 70cm, but Saint can work. All you need to use is a Luts resin neck donut to give an S-hook something to seat in.

I did a Hound head on a DZ 70 about 2 years ago -- it's in an old thread here somewhere. And I have a Saint head on an IP Model body, and a Bernard on an older IP body. The IP necks are a half cm less around than the DS necks, so from directly below, there is a bit of a gully, and you have to avoid some camera angles because so much of the DS heads are *forward*. But good side-side motion and back. The only direction you don't get to do is the same as when they're on the DS body. No forward motion because the chins are so far below the level of the neck hole, they're already pressed against the necks.

Test DZ/Hound (the resins didn't match):

which is in this informative thread:
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94849 (did a search for Hound and Dollzone)

My Bernard, Tarrant:


My Saint, Freyne (who did several photostory shoots almost 2 years ago on an earlier version IP body):

 

heres a saint on a senior delf body (they have the same sized heads right?)



looks better with a long wig imo

 

We've got some earlier in this thread. ^^ These are all pictures of the old heads though...

And this is a picture of my dollshe Bernard (same headsize as saint) on a super gem body as well, both the head and the body is white skin. :3

 

Some may deem it useless now that the new heads are coming along, but there's still a strong interest in the older heads. So --

Size-wise, 60cm bodies are chancy, mostly because so much of the DS face hangs off the front. This is my best compromise, a DS Saint on an IP Model body, which is about 63-64cm. From certain angles the head does look a bit large, but the proportions are still better than they were on the more slender torso of the previous version of the body.



The old Bernard head, however was the smallest of the heads and looked good on the previous IP body. I'd be interested in knowing if all the heads this time have been made to be the same size, or if there is still the size scale going down from Hound to Saint to Bernard.

 

Ok, I've answered my own question Here is my new Saint head on my Soom Euclase body.



Proportion-wise it's really nice, although the neck is a touch smaller than the neckhole.



But it's not something you really notice from a regular angle.



And a head comparison:



Hope this helps some of you!

 

on NS SG body

 

@Elune: Hydra Kitten is right. Pale skin matches Soom CW. Here's a picture of my Saint/Soom Heliot hybrid:

 

Hello!
Can anyone show me a Dollshe head (Bernard preferred but anyone will do) on a SSDF body? DSAM bodies are too thin for my character.
I've seen Dollshe guys on Super Gem bodies, the proportions are great so it's a good option too. But what do you know about NS resin comparison?
Thank in advance

 

The 68cm Popodoll body is a nice fit size-wise. I'm not sure how the resin match goes for anything apart from paleskin, and it really doesn't match Popodoll WS. I think freshskin might work a bit better since WS is peachier than paleskin. I've attempted to blush the faceplate to match better, but it's not perfect.

Proportions with wig:


Proportions without wig:


Resin match:

 

Wow, Latte! The Saint head looks really great on the Popodoll body!

Did you have to sand the neck at all to get the Dollshe head to fit?

 

Nope, I haven't done anything to the neck at all

 

Thought I'd answer my own question. This is a new type freshskin saint faceplate on a normal skin Dollmore model body

 

I didn't have a female body, but for a time my Saint was on a 70cm RS boy body. I thought he worked well. There is another person with the same combo here on DoA too.

 

Wow, BunnyChan! Is the Dollmore body really that pink? The freshskin Dollshe head looks almost white.

 

Is there any chance that a Dollshe head might look fine on a 65cm Infinitidoll body? I love the joints and the overall proportions of the SID body, but I'm afraid the head might look too wobbly on it

 

Hihi!

I just wanted to know if anyone has done this? Can a Soom SG head go on a Dollshe body? Will it look okay?
I'm interested in making a Soom Dia/Dollshe boy hybrid, both in white skin, but I want to make sure I'm not in danger of making a Bobble head doll!

Thankies!!
~ Nana

Huggies for anyone who has a Dia/Dollshe hybrid!!

 

Do you mean old Dollshe or new DSAM? The Dia head is very small and the Dollshe neck is HUGE. I put a Volks Genji head on a DSAM body and I had to cut more than a cm off the neck and shave it down all the way around a lot to make it look even somewhat reasonable. Soom white would match Dollshe paleskin pretty well, though.

 

Took the pics..The Saint head def. doesn't look all that good on the fdoll body..it's neck gaps too much..the DSAM body has a big neck. >_> And the colors def. don't match..fresh skin is pretty pale looking. To be honest, the difference between the fresh skin and my old dollshe's WS isn't even that big..







Pic of Saint head in fresh skin next to old normal yellow body..and pinky fdoll body..



And just for fun..here is the Saint on an SDF body..proportionally it looks better and the neck fits better.

 

Seconding this! It's a Bernard in my case too. I'm guessing it should be one of the taller female bodies, but I don't want it to be too, er, curvy. Can anyone lend a hand?

 

I apologize for the quality of these photos, but they should still be helpful!

Old style Bernard head on EID woman large bust body. He's old white skin, she's rose white. The resin match is really close.


A photo of the neck fit. It's just about perfect. I'm not sure how the range of motion is, her S-hook didn't play well with the Dollshe head attachment method. You'd need to string the resin D (or whatever they're using now) in to really try it out. Although to be honest, his range of motion isn't all that great on his own body. XD;;;

 

One of my friend saw this and I think it matches well the picture isn;t mine but it's just to show you Dollshe head with Doll Chateau body does work! Well I like the way it looks


Link to the Flickr page it comes from

From the page:
Doll Chateau-Dollshe DSAM Comparison

Dollshe Bernard (Fresh skin)on my Cyril's Doll Chateau body(white)
Dollshe DSAM 32 Saint (fresh skin)

Ok... I was surprised how thick the DSAM could look in this comparison O.O;

 

I don't know if this helps anyone, but I had hard time deciding what body to buy for my Saint. I needed a beefier body for my character, so I made a hybrid and bought an Angelsdoll 70 cm body (the first version, not the muscular nor the slim one). Here are some pictures.

My saint is pale skin, as the body is angelsdoll white, which is rather paperwhite. I bought my Saint secondhand about 2 years ago, so he has yellowned and isn't a perfect match. I think I'll be able to hide the difference with some bodyblushing, and I don't know if a new pale would match better, probably. Angelsdoll white has a light pink undertone though.








With my pure body Bernard. There's a significant size difference (though I like it).





There's a small gap, but it's not that noticeable and usually easy to hide with a wig.

 

Dollshe Saint 2012 "Old" in Freshskin on a Mirodoll blushed NS body with slight mods and dikadoll NS pink hands.

Some gapping at the neck, but only a bit.

The resin match obviously doesn't work but I think with a bit of extending on the neck the hybrid itself looks great... Or for a stockier guy you might leave the neck short.

The Mirodoll body with a head like this on it should come to 60-61 cm.

 

Sorry, I have nothing for a tan match, but I'd like to share some pictures of my Fresh Skin Husky on a Dikadoll 70 white skin (normal white) body, resin match is very good:

 

I have Orijean on the big DC body:

Uranus' outfit by wiggies2luv, on Flickr

A closeup photo is here. Orijean's neck is significantly bigger than the DC body's neck, but most of the "overhang" is in the back, so a wig can cover that.

 

Here's my Saint (Aelek) oreintal on a 66 Akagi doll normal body

Its a really nice hybrid.
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My pale Saint is on a WS Soom Super Gem, match is pretty excellent imo, both proportion & resin pre-blushing


Poe09 by Lachlana Light, on Flickr


Poe01 by Lachlana Light, on Flickr

 

So what 65cm bodies can dollshe heads (Rosen) fit on without neck gap age? (I've seen super gem and dikadoll)

 

Vince_Twilight, the dollshe (male) neck holes are large by any definition. I'd start looking at Iplehouse.
I don't own an SD iplehouse so I can't be sure there. I can be sure that appart from the Dollshe bodies I have, none of my guys have necks that big. I have SD or taler male: Dream Realm, Miro 60/68 cm boy, DiM SD boy Soom super Gen boy, and a bunch of 60 range SD dolls, none of whom have big necks.

 

Out of curiosity, I tried my Bernard head on my IH SID body. Uh uh. The neck is as wide as the head and the head perches on top. The socket is far too small. As the neck and head are pretty much the same width, there is no room to mod the neck socket any bigger. So, no go on that one, I'm afraid.

 

MadamMauMau, oh that's funny! Did you take a picture?

Yeah, I'm not too surprised; Iplehouse boys really have thick necks.
Would be interesting if some one could try a Dollshe head on a IH SID girl.

 

I wonder if it would fit on a YID boy body. Probably not, the neck is probably still too big. I have an EID and YID girl. I should see if one of my guys' heads fits on either girl body.

OK, here's Bernard's head on an Iplehouse EID girl body. He's fresh skin and she's Iplehouse normal skin.

Poor Evan by Jen Savage, on Flickr


And here it is on an Iplehouse YID girl body. She's peach gold skin.

Poor Evan by Jen Savage, on Flickr

If you go on my stream, I took side views of both swaps too.

 

svgjen, the Dollshe older heads are listed as fitting a 11 cm neck and Iplehouse's YID is listed as a 11.3 cm neck. So no that would probably not fit.

IH YID girl has a 9.3 cm neck, so the Ausley would definitely fit, if a little loosely, but I'd call Dollshe's male heads too big.
IH SID girl has a 10.5 cm neck so it would be a perfect fit for the Ausley and I'd call it within the range of the male heads.

But these stats are all take from the Dollshe & IH sites; if they messed up the measuring, all bets are off.

 

I have seen Dollshe heads used on Popodoll 68cm bodies, the proportion looks rather nice that way. A long time ago, my bestie used a Bernard head on an old Dollzone 70cm body. As much as anything, the trick is going to be finding a body where the neck size will accommodate a Dollshe head. Did you have a specific look you were going for? I have an oldstyle Saint head that I could try on both my Volks SD17 and SDGou bodies. Dollshe heads usually are smaller than most heads for that size of body, I think that's why they tend to look best on the slimmer 70cm bodies.

 

Okay, so I put Hound's head on my 65cm Migidoll Guy Body II, and Jina's head on Hound's Dollshe 18M Pure Body for comparison. I also stood my Dollshe Rosen head/IOS 70cm body up next to them to help with the comparison. Hound's head looks slightly too large for the body because his head sinks down on the neck far more than Jina's head sits on the Dollshe body, but it doesn't look awful, maybe if you used a neck part to lift it up a tad.

On the other end, Jina's head looks ridiculous on such a long-necked body. I added a link to resin comparison here, as well. Both are in normal skin, but Dollshe is lighter, but a simple blushing can even that up. Hope this helps!
Photo by Joy Kintscher

 

Hello! Can anyone put Arsene on a shorter body - specifically Soom SG - but anything of similar size would help. I have heard he has a large head, but I've yet to see photos of how large...so this would be very helpful.

Thanks!