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Aesthetics 3rd Faceup, My gf's faun...fawn?

Nov 20, 2014

    1. If anyone wants to see my first or second attempt you can follow the links backwards here
      http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?650339-2nd-face-up-attempt-(chalk-and-acrylics)

      So here is my third face up ever. I took the advice from previous responses and went to hobby lobby. Bought better brushes, better paint, actual paint medium instead of thinner, and softer heavier pigmented chalk.

      Here is the end result. I know it has some defects and i still need work on eye lashes, finer details, lighter strokes. Does anyone know which brush i shouldve used.

      I was primarily using a 20/0. and a 10/0 in a round and a liner. the 10/0 flat however felt the best for making tiny lines such as the lips and ears.

      Does anyone mod their paint brush by removing bristles to make even finer lines? Should i do that or is it a bad idea?

      And here is the product of free hand unplanned work.
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      And even though i feel like i did a terible job @AmayaBambi is super excited to have her woodland spirit look the part. The next step is to the rest of the body, legs, hooves, horns.
       
    2. Be careful trimming a good brush it could ruin it. I have made single hair brushes that leave more paint than a really good liner brush will make. It is all about loading the brush properly, kind of like how a quill pen holds ink. With a few hairs at the tip, a good brush will let you make teeny tiny lines. You have to have a good magnifier/glasses and focus on the tip of the brush as it touches the resin. It takes practice and patience. :)

      Edit, She does look cool as an earth spirit should.
       
    3. I have painted dollhouse miniatures which are super tiny and can tell you that a spotter brush 20/ or smaller is good. I am assuming control is what you want with the brush. The thing is, different brands have their own sizing, so watch out for that. Some people swear by liners though. It really depends on personal preference. I know some people who use nail art brushes..... I hope that helps.

      She looks really awesome, I like her nose!
       
    4. I started experimenting with gloss. im glad you like the nose. With her being a fawn and a forest creature i wanted a mythical look that blends with the forest but also looks like a deer. (edit: deer dont have eyebrows) I dont have anything smaller than 20/ i might have to look into nail art brushes.

      I dont own a magnifing glass, however i have excelent depth perception and 20/10 vision in my left eye. i could see how a magnify glass like what they use for nails would work great. And seriously single bristle! i didnt think id want to cut it down that much but the loaded paint would give it thickness that would wisp off into pointy lines.

      I didnt pay to much for my new brushes only $30 in total and i have a few duplicates so if i do mess up im not out to much. I will certainly try and make a small round and possibly small liner and see how that feels as i do the rest of her body or redo my girl as it seriously looks awfull right now if you havent looked yet lol.

      Do any of you happen to know of a proper ratio to mix paint with extender, or with water or both i did 2 parts paint to 1 part extender 1 part water and it came out pretty liquidy, aimed for milk consistancy from what ive read so far. I liked the way it painted but feel it could be better. also those measurments were eyeballed.

      I should probobly have another face up done tommorow night or later on in the week to test new methods and refine old ones.
       
    5. That is a loaded question. It really depends on what type of paint you have to start, what type of extender you are using and how thick you are painting. At the lower end of the spectrum there's the chalky craft paint and at the higher end there's citadel paint like what people use for warhammer miniatures. Artist acrylic like say, liquitex is great too. The soft body is smoother. My suggestion? Mix different ratios, use the same brush and do experiments on a head cap. Keep track of what ratio you use for which sample and judge on your results. Again though, I actually only use acrylics on dollhouse miniatures.... I have just been using pastels, watercolor pencils and gloss for face ups...... I'm just sharing my experience with the actual paint and brushes I have used. Practice makes perfect, and with each try you will improve. We are our own harshest critics! After all, even the most experienced, brilliant surgeons in the world still practice medicine!
       
    6. that makes sense. And im actually using ... oh wait i didnt buy liqutex casue i didnt wanna spend that much yet. I bought master art or something like that. a little lower end than liquitex but higher than the junk i was using. I will certainly keep practicing and i have a head cap i could run a few tests on and see what i like best .
       
    7. I have done just one faceup so far, but i draw a lot.
      In my expierience, for thin lines with a good control you should use watercolor pencils or polychromus. They are perfect for creases and thin hair such as eyebows and lashes. I would recommand to buy a black, a white and a brown one for starters, because you can cover most of the natural haircolors with it.
      Depending on how hard the colored pencils are and the amount of pigments, you might need to do several layers with fixing the color inbetween with a sealant. If you decide to use pastels, make sure to wear gloves to avoid the head from oil staind, for the pigments will stick to it

      as i said, i am not that expierienced with doing faceups on a doll, so if i am wrong about certain points please correct me. :)
       
    8. i think they make such a thing as pastel pencils will have to take a look around. however i havent used water color pencils ever. do you have to wet the pencil to make it work or does it just go on naturally but better than colored pencils?

      As for oil on hands i have pretty dry hands naturally from all the work ive done, havent had much problem yet but that is good information i will certainly have to "borrow" some gloves from work or something.
       
    9. Great improvement from the last time! The blushing looks nice, not streaky or messy. And the rows of white dots look very smooth and even. You should definitely keep practicing, you'll only continue to improve.
      Pastel pencils are a real thing! I have some. I haven't used them a whole lot for faceups, though... mostly just actual drawing on paper. I did use them once for eyeliner/eyeshadow on a doll--- I drew directly on the doll with the pencil, and it allowed me to get a concentrated, deep color that I could still blend and soften the edge of, so that was nice. They are much harder than the soft chalk pastels, though, so I wouldn't try using them for blushing or anything really soft/subtle.
      Watercolor pencils are cool too. Used dry, they work like a regular colored pencil. You can wet the pencil and get more of a paint effect that way, or you can go over your dry lines with a wet brush. If you want to try them for faceups, I would strongly suggest playing around with them on paper first to get a good feel for the whole wet/dry thing and what effects you can do with them. That way you'll know what you're looking to do with them on a faceup.
       
    10. thats certainly helpful [MENTION=64239]thedarkeststar13[/MENTION] i was hoping the pencils were a real thing and i didnt just come up with a genius way to make a bunch of money. I used to draw all the time when i was younger and grew out of the hobby or habbit of just sitting down and being patient until recently with face ups. Ive always kinda been a wing it person so dont expect me to try on paper first im sorta lazy like that. Id rather apply directly to the face, wipe off and try again till i get it right. that way i have the feel against the resin and the different shapes on the face and how they react.

      I like the idea of using the chalk pencil though. using it to make deeper darker lines that you can fade out will be really useful for highlighting and accenting my face ups where i want to draw more or less attention to.

      Again thanks everyone for your feedback and or criticism i really apreciate it as this all helps me become better it also really shows the support this community has together.
       
    11. For pastels and wc pencils I highly recommend a kneaded eraser! You can just dab it or roll it to a point and erase just a little bit. I could not do a face up with out one! I also use a mars eraser for wc lines. I especially like the pencil cap ones. Also, these are very inexpensive of less than or about $2 each.
      If I understood how to use these features to insert photos I would. I've only have done maybe 7 face ups but each one I can tell a real difference.
       
    12. I don't know very much about brush modification but I love your face up~ I like the green! It adds a very fantasy woodsland look I think
       
    13. I didnt even think about kneaded erasers i havent had one since i was a kid loved to play with them lol. but great idea will certainly add that to my shopping list.

      YAY!! thank you, im tryin to learn as fast as i can and be patient with the results that i can yield. but im always just so excited to do another one and have so little time to do so.

      And yes was definitely going for the woodland fantasy.
       
    14. I knew I had seen this on DoA! I don't know why I didn't comment on it before, that was dumb. It looks amazing in the pictures, but they really don't do it justice. Her face is so gorgeous in person, and the details in the ears are really wonderful! I forgot to ask, have you tried water color pencils? They seem to work pretty well for details, too.
       
    15. The faceup is a lot of fun, I definitely feel the forest spirit vibe.. but personally I feel like the nose and lips are a bit much. I am not picking up on the faun look. In my personal opinion as a faun cosplayer, for a more faun look, only coloring the tip and underside of the nose with the dark color and the upper lip would give the best outcome.