Pastels and Pencils: Post photos and reviews of what you use!

I don't even have my first doll yet, but from what I've read, you probably wouldn't want to use these.

Chalk pastels are used to blush the face and body, but you want to avoid oil pastels, because they damage the resin. (I'm not actually sure of the reason, but I know you want to avoid oils like the plague.)

I've come across one person who does all of her faceups in pastels. I don't have any idea of her techniques, but if she can do it, so can you obviously.

As for pencils, I'm not sure about these. You might use them to sketch out your work lightly on the body, but I don't think you'd want to use them for the final look, since the graphite would probably look a little powdery.

Many people use pencil crayons, or water color pencil crayons to sketch the eyebrows. Some people just do the eyebrows straight with water color pencil crayons.

 

ya i was wondering about using pastel pencils too! cause i have those. ya like Korrin said i think if u were to use the pastel pencils it would be for outlining the eyebrows. i think of if this way "smuggie stuff-->blush type things; paints--->detail like eye liner and hair on the eyebrows"

o ya and never use anything that has oil!!! thats a nono because it "stains" the resin.

 

What pastel brands and types do you use? I am not farmiliar with the world of pastels and accidently bought the wrong type last time. I don't want to make that mistake again!

Would these work for faceups? ---> http://www.dickblick.com/zz200/24/

Do you have any brand suggestions? If so can you link it?

Thanks!

 

I use all sorts, mostly scrapbooking chalks (chalk + pastels)

these sound good to me, but you don't need that many of each colour.. a little goes a LONG way..

You can also use mungyo, which are VERy vibrant in their colours, or you can purchase Rembrandt brand pastels by the individual colour in art supply shops

Scrapbooking shops will carry kits with lots of colours too :>

Seek peace

Carol

 

is that another name for chalk pastels? o__0;;
which make them safe to use?
or can SOME soft pastels have oil in them?

im currently looking for some pastels to buy
and i have some art book that defines different mediums and it says that 'soft' pastels are chalky and dont have oil in them . . .

i just want some opinion of some people on the board.

ps: here are the ones im planning on buying. if anyone has used these or had any experience with them, please tell me if they're okay for faceups ^^;;

 

Soft pastels, also called artists' pastels, are what you want. There are harder pastels - I forget the proper name right now (hard pastels?), but they're meant for doing fine lines on paper and don't make scrapings easily, even though they come in rectangular stick form too. Some even come in pencil form.

The pastels that have oil are called "oil pastels". Stay away! They're like oil paints in chalk form and you have to treat them like oils, using turpentine, etc. Ick.

The soft pastels sometimes come in short rounded sticks, sometimes in rectangular sticks. For getting their dust easily, you could scrape one end against sandpaper, or use one of those little sandpaper-strips on a handle (also used for edge-sharpening pencils), or use an Exacto knife to scrape the surface. I also know of someone here who breaks small pieces off and grinds them in a small mortar and pestle to get uniform particles.

Be aware - handling soft pastels will also leave color dust on your hands, so have paper towels ready so you don't cross-contaminate colors (unless you want to!). When I used to work them on paper, there was also a certain amount of dust in the air and in their carry-case after awhile.

 

that set looks just fine for faceups. oil pastels are rarely ever made square, they're just too maleable. watch out, though -- hobbywhelmed is right about the dust in the air and carry case -- and don't be surprised if after a long bout of practicing faceups/working on a faceup with pastels if you find yourself sniffly, the dust irritates the mucus membranes (blowing one's nose is suddenly very colorful, though! aheh, sorry, gross, i know, but true.)

i powder all of my pastels and keep them in little gladware containers -- cheap, light, airtight and replaceable, stackable and easy to store, and then i've always got a range of colors powdered and ready to go. my poor mortar and pestle... always getting scrubbed! one stick will last a good long time, though!

 

I'm not really sure about the pastels for faceups, but if they DO work, here's a tip to keep the dust off your fingers. Just leave them in the package, and brush a paint brush on one. I NEVER grind or scrape my pastels into dust, and it works fine. Just brush the paint brush onto the pastel, then onto the doll. Then when you want to change colors, brush the paintbrush off on a paper towel. ^^ That's how I do it, anyhow!

 

I have noticed several threads inquiring about the type of pastel to use for faceups. There are many different kinds --so I thought I would post pics of the my pastels with a personal summary of each.

If you have used another brand you can post pics of yours. This can be helpful to those who know little about art mediums.

The following photos are all "chalk" based pastels. Stay away from "oil" based pastels for faceups!


Crayola 12 colors-- very inexpensive, very bright garish colors, powdery and brittle. Used in elementary school art programs. Not recommended for faceups.
Artista colored dustless chalk 24 colors. A slightly higher quality then Crayola. Hard sticks, bright colors. Only 4 neutral colors included (brown, grey, white, peach).


Conte Crayons 6 neutral colors. Fairly expensive. Wonderful for drawing' Limited colors, very hard dense pastel. Not my choice but some DOAers have found great success using these.



Nupastel color sticks 96 colors. Medium priced. Good variety of colors. Good deep color, considered "hard" but can easily be shaved.



Schwan -Othello pastel pencils 60 colors. I have not used these pencils for a faceup, but prefer watercolor pencils instead. I want to point out that these are "pastel chalk pencils", not primsa colored pencils which contain wax and are not suitable for faceups. (I can post a pic of Prisma colored pencils if requested.)





Rembrandt soft pastels 180 colors. My favorite! Pricey but worth it. Very soft, very deep color. Wide variety of shades and hues. Last forever, primo quality. Single sticks can be purchased at art stores.

Hope this helps those who are trying to decide what to buy!

 

So I found a place I can get faceup products, I have also run through tutorials and found out I need pastels and acrylics, allthough might drop acrylics if it's possible as I don't feel confident with it.

Now I am confused on which of these following products are good for what uses, as I need blushing, eyebrow details, eyeliner and other detailing. Can someone tell me about following products:

- Derwent pastel pencils
- Derwent soft pastels
- Derwent water color pencils
- Derwent artist's pencils

What would you use/recommend? Is Derwent good or should I find another brand? Can I get a dark black eyeliner not using acrylics?

 

Derwent is a British brand - or Duitch?- , I believe, of artist's supplies. I've used them, among other brands, for art for years, and feel they're pretty good. I don't know their relative quality standing next to Windsor & Newton, though!

Pastel pencils - no. You won't get the soft blushing effects you want, and the pastel pencils may use a harder grade of pastels. Otherwise the points would crumble too easily.

Soft pastels - yes. Some people scrap off dust, someone recommended just brushing a brush along them and using the color dust that picks up. Yes, they are that soft. Be prepared to keep tissues on hand, because colored dust gets everywhere.

Watercolor pencils - yes. Good for colored lines and shadings. You probably could get a black eye line with pencils. Check out aernath's Ichigo - she got intensity along his lids and was only using wc pencils. If you're going for something much more goth, or exotic (aka lots of black around the eyes), then a bit of acrylic paint would probably be necessary.

Artist's pencils - no. Regular colored pencils hold the pigments together with a wax base. The softer the pencil (some brands are softer than others), the more wax. You don't want any. It'll make your coating spray do strange and icky things.

 

I decided to add a little bit of information on Watercolor Pencils. I don't think the quality of the watercolor pencils are as critical as the quality of the pastels. Add your opinion of the following brands and if you use another brand add yours!




Crayola Watercolor Colored Pencils Inexpensive. Come in various size sets. Not the best quality but still can be used.



Kimberly Watercolor Pencils 24 colors These watercolor pencils are a notch up from the Crayola brand, and fairly inexpensive. Also come in sets of 8, 12, 24, and larger. Available at Walmart and Michaels.



DERWENT Watercolor Pencils Nice quality, softer more intense colored leads. Can be purchased in sets or individual pencils. Available at Michaels $1-$2 each depending on color.

Picture to come..... Primascolor color pencils.

 

I use Mungyo Gallery soft pastels (48 pcs / set)
Really good quality, they give a nice and intensive color.
They cost me about 35$.



I also use Derwent watercolor pens.

 

I use Mungyo as well, however I have yet to try them on something other then paper..They're not wrapped, but are the same colours as Riz's image.


blue box..

 

I have tried both Rembrant pastels and Alpacolor Pastels. Rembrant I grinded with a sandpaper stick or just whiped a brush on the pastel, very easy to use, color was vibrant. I purchased individual sticks only getting the colors I wanted they cost about 2 dollars each with student discount.

I have also tried Alphacolor soft pastels I have 2 packs the Multi-Cultural 24 set and the Multicultural 12 set.

They look like this:

I took the pictures from Dick Blick website and uploaded them to my server

They are clearly Student grade I grinded them with a knife, sandpaper, sandpaper stick, nail file, tried to brush it on,and tried it wet. Prone to clumps even used it light layers. It is also hard to mix colors rembrant is alot better with color mixing. It can be grinded to useable quality with sandpaper then use a art knife to grind it down better takes a bit more work than it needs too ==;

Also can turn up to 6 shades darker with Testors, no noticable differance with Mr.Super Clear.

The box of 12 cost about 5 USD and the 24 pack about 9 USD.

 

I don't know if there is a thread up like this already-- if there is-- please delete.

It's easy for the lot of us to say a "red" Watercolor pencil or a "greenish" pastel -- but some people need to know specifically what it is you are using. That is not to say that they will get the same effects that you did-- but they can see that you can get those effects from these products and all they might need is practice. This eliminates the possibility of them actually using 'Crayola' (for example) and wondering why they are not getting the same effects -- Saves an example conversation of "Use your watercolor pencil to make lines like this..." and then "I AM it DOESN'T look like THAT!" ..
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Not only that, but any of us who has been to an art store knows that there is not just simply one shade of "red" or any color for that matter. So specific color name can be important too!
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Even small notes such as using pastel pencils Vs. pastel sticks can be helpful!!
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I am also curious to see what people use what products on their doll children. ^_^
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Anyway-- I am sidetracking.
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I use:

Derwent Watercolor pencils
-Flesh Pink 16
-Chocolate 66
-Vandyke Brown 55
-6 (there was no name-- it's an orange-y / melon color)

Derwent Pastel (Pastel Pencil)
-Ivory Black 67 B
-Terracotta 64 F
-French Grey 70 D
-Indigo 36 D
-Deep Cadmium 6 B

Pitt Pastel - Faber-Castell (Pastel Pencil)
-1122-191
-1122-131
-1122-132

Rembrandt Pastel (Pastel stick)
-Carmin (B series 318,5)

 

ProArt brand pastels.
I've had these forever and use them a bunch, but they never seem to get any smaller.
Very hard and "chalky", blends easily. The color comes off the sticks in a fine powder that
looks really intense colorwise, but goes on very subtle. I usually have to make three or
four passes before I get the color I want. So far I've had excellent results, but they seem
to go on DullCote easier than MSC Flat. Maybe DullCote is "toothier"?


Lorraine Ceramics Fiesta Colors Metallic Powder.
I found these in my grandmother's house and I am really NOT SURE what they are.
I've asked around ceramic forums and got different answers from everyone.
The company that makes them is no longer in business, so I can't ask them. In any case,
these have a subtle shine and are the consistency of powdered artist pigments.
When I mix them with gloss sealer, they look like pearlescent nail polish and dry
to a candy-like shine. I only need a TINY bit as the pigment is really dense. They blend with
the gloss and with acrylic paint like a dream.

I also haven't been brave enough to try them on resin. So far I've used them on a vinyl
Barbie and a Sculpey head. The results were great, but since the pigment is so dense
I'm a little worried about stains.

 

If they are ceramic powders they a probably in a similar category as enamel powders. Powder that fuses to something under heat. Enamel powders have a glass base. They are fairly unreactive to plastic, since they are generally not acidic. They have other chemicals in them to make different colors. Sometimes lead is used- esp in older powders and foreign. I would probably use them on a doll if the powder is fine enough. As it gets less fine- sugar consistency they would be abrasive.

 

My mother did mention something about enamels when I asked her. (She used to paint ceramics) I've always worn gloves when I open the jars or mix them, just to be on the safe side. Sometimes the weirdest things are toxic.

It's really, really powder-fine, like cornstarch. If they won't stain I look forward to using them! Some of them are two-tone and would make awesome lip and nail colors.

 

Wow, I'm glad I forgot to take my gift card to campus Thursday, I was going to pick up some Alphacolors to supplement my current pastels. I wish I had a larger set of the Nupastels.

Does anyone know about Design Spectracolor pencils? I think they're watercolour pencils. And are there any straight out watercolour paints I should be wary of? I currently have an old Reeves' Students' Colour Box No. 61<something> from my dad. I have an incredible ability to acquire random art supplies from family and friends.

I seriously don't want to muck up my first doll when he gets here.


Satori - My grandmother also had those ceramic powders (I think she gave them to my aunt though). The main safety worry when we worked with them was for air quality and that primarily from the fumes when fired.

 

Has anyone ever used General's Compressed Pastel Chalks? I bought a 4-pack at Hobby Lobby for $4. It's an "earth and flesh tones" set.

 

In soft pastels you get what you pay for the ones you got at Hobby Lobby are terrible. The only way you can really know how good the better brands are is try them.

 

Holy hell, chopsart, that's a heck of a Rembrandt pastels collection you've got there! *0*

On a more informative note, Schminkes are a great and equally expensive brand of chalk pastel.

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How deep can you get colors with pastel?? I'm not talking white or anything; more like the reds and peach colors?? With expensive pastels, BTW.

 

I have been trying a face up on my Sist faceplate. I have tried a few times & Have not been happy yet. Not even a little bit.

I tried Acrylics for lips & the paint seems a little thick looking & Not smooth...Even thinned with Golds. I tried Pastels & I really couldnt get it as dark as I wanted...How does one use the Pastels wet?

Also When I use the Pastels..If I rub it on with a Qtip- It tends to make her Shiny. I tried a Brush- But the Flat Qtip I was using Seemed to get more color on.

The Acrylic Line for her Eyelid Crease...Ugh. I cant get that smooth. It looks ok in person. On camera It shows every little flaw.

Any Suggestions?

 

Here's a dumb question, did you spray her with MSC first? only reason why I'm asking is because it gives you a nice tooth for pastels to stick to, also you really need to build of the pastels, layer them on sorta speak. I put on the first layer a base, then I spray MSC, then I add some more and spray again, rinse and repeat.

Also what kind of pastels are you using? make sure they have a lot of pigment, if they have a lot of pigment and are soft you should have no problem brushing it on, and I don't use any Q-tips, I use brushes, I had to go through a few brushes to get the ones I really like, it's all preference.

 

I did spray her- With Testors Dull Cote (didnt have MSC)
My Pastels Might not be very good. They are called Inkadinkado-Artistic Blending Chalks .

I also did not spray in between Layers- Because I figured Id be removing the face up when I was done. So wanted that Easier to do While I learn.

Ill go through My Brushes again & Experiment.

Thanks SDink!

 

Oh I see, ya getting the right pastels will make a world of difference, i had to go through a few.

Good Luck!

 

I didnt know if it was all the Pastels Fault- Since they worked great on her Cheeks.
I will Try to get some better chalks this weekend. Can good Ones Be found at Michaels or Joanns?

Anyone want to review the Good Brands Of Pastels again?

Thanks,

 

Hmmm, I got mine online, they are handmade pastels and can be a bit pricey but I also like the ones that leekeworld sell, they are called "Mungyo" pastels, they work great! don't know about any ones at Michaels or Joann's, perhaps buy one of each and try them out, that's sorta what I did until I found the ones I like the best.

 

(I Tried to Post this as a New Thread about 10 times- But It Kept Timing Out. If this is not the right Place for it...It can Be Removed...Or can It be Moved to a New Thread?)
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I need to buy Pastels & Dont know what I should buy. I Need to consider Cost also.

I made a List of some of the Brands Of Pastels That I have read are good:
*Rembrandt
*Faber-Castel (Dick Blick Lists them as Student Grade-is there another that isnt student grade-or is the Student grade fine?)
*Sennielier
*Mungyo
*Loew Cornell
*ProArt
*Prismacolor-NuPastels

Please add in Any Brands that I have missed.

What Brand(s) Do You Like?
Is There A Brand(s) You Dont Like?
What Colors Do you Use Most?
What Other Colors Are Nice to Have?

Any Other Info That Would be helpful.

Thanks,

 

mmmm I've only used the Volks' pastel set. I've only done DD (vinyl instead of resin) faceups but they worked great for me. I used it for blushing cheeks and eyelids

 

The Volks pastels are identical to chalk pastels you can get at an art supply store, just more expensive. It is like the Volks cleaning sponge versus a Magic Eraser. ^^

 

haha that is probably most likely true...
but I liked that it came in a set of assorted colors so I didn't have to think too hard which colors I need to buy at the store... it's a good starter.

 

Bumping this thread up for usefulness!

 

Yarka Russian soft pastels are listed as 'student grade', but they're very smooth and light, and blend well for me- and have the added bonus of being water-soluble to the point of working like watercolors. They're also very budget-friendly when bought off the Dick Blick website. Sennelier and Rembrandt are also high quality. Any pastel that's highly compressed into a square should really be avoided. The ultimate pastels are Unison, but they're insanely expensive ($599 for a set of 144), and the pigment is so super-concentrated that I'd worry about staining. Any pastel that uses minimal 'kaolin clay' as a binder should work well.

NEVER use Townsend Terrages pastels. They're high-quality, but expensive, and they have pumice blended into them. Abrasive as hell. They're definitely made only for work on paper.

Prismacolor pencils are probably the best known. Derwent Coloursoft are also nice to work with. I have yet to try watercolor pencils, or some of my more exotic pencil sets.

 

What does "chalky" means?

 

So...prismacolor pencils? Will those work or no? Also, is removal fairly easy?

Thanks

 

I don't have pictures of my materials But I use things that have already been mentioned, namely, Rembrandt soft pastels and Derwent watercolor pencils. They are great, there's a really large variety of colours in those pastels, it's just important to make sure that they are the soft pastels and not the oily type. They are highly recommended.

 

"Chalky"--can mean dry and powdery. We talk in degrees of "chalky-ness". In the first picture there are some Crayola chalk pastels. They are very light in weight, with a very brittle consistency, very cheap with limited colors. The Rembrandts are also chalk pastels, but they are lovely-- heavy, and smooth, with beautiful tone and color, and a delightf to work with. Does that help?

The "prismacolor" pencils I worked with on a daily basis as an art teacher for 20 years have WAX in them. They are wonderful excellent quality colored pencils. After application on a paper surface, the colors will dull over time because the wax in the lead "blooms" and then needs to be polished with a soft cloth. As far as I know they are NOT recommended for faceups.

The typical faceup pencils people are using are "watercolor" pencils, or even "chalk" pastel pencils, not prismacolor pencils.

 

Prismacolor does do a range of watercolor pencils. I've used them for drawings, not faceups, but the pigments are rich and do not "bloom" like regular pencils do. As far as I know the only binders in most watercolor pencils is gum arabic, so I'd suppose these Prismacolors would be similar.

- Mel

 

Wow chopsart, that is a wonderful collection of art supplies!
I've not done many face-ups(I,ve done two and both need to be sealed again but it is rainy and humid now). I used Mungyo which I think worked very well.
Oh,BusterBrown, I am not completely sure with pink colours. I mixed brown with red and the resulting colour was pretty dark. I think you could go over the dark coat with a lighter colour to make it more pink or light red instead of the maroonish colour.

Where do you guys get individual Rembrant pastels? I would like to try them but do not want to buy an entire set.

 

Rembrant and other expensive pastels are usually available in small packs of two or four in major craft stores. Rarely do they carry larger sets.

SO, as far as I understand... any watercolor pencil, pastel pencil, or soft non-oil pastel is fair game, correct? I am going shopping soon for faceup supplies, and although I already have an extensive collection of watercolor pencils I would like to know beforehand what I am looking for.

ALSO... Acrylics, I'm going to get liquitex brand possibly some Golden brand as well. I want to know what paint thinner/paint retarder is usually called in these brands... because thinning acrylic with water can get messy, as I hear, and if you ask for paint retarder at any of my local craft stores they look at you like you are.. well.. retarded.

 

Rembrandt soft pastels are not so soft. I think it works well, but i have a feeling they will be a little grainy, but i will update this later.

When i look at W&N pics of their soft pastels, they look very soft. I dont think that remrandt soft pastels are very soft at all, haha.

 

Has anyone tried Mount Vision Handmade Pastels on their dolls they seem to have a nice selection of color ? They are about 60 bucks for a set of 25, so they are kind of pricey.

 

does anyone know how volks ZM pastels compare to the art store brands?
are they good quality?

 

can someone tell me if these are ok to use?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHALK-PASTELS...tcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It says chalk pastels but I'de still like to know from someone with more experience.
I'm gonna be getting a DZ bunny in 2 weeks with no make-up (poor naked thing. awww..XD) and I dont want him to stay that way for long...

 

I use prismacolor pencils whenever I color something. I have never experianced the 'bloom' that is mentioned here. Never. Even on a picture that is completly prismacolor I have not seen any sort of blooming.

I use Prismas for my face-ups beause I am confident in my use of them. I only wiped my boy's face-up because it was getting really dirty, and I had meant for him to get a new face anyway.

It might have to do with the humidity? I live in an area where it's very humid, all the time, south Texas. So...that might have to do with it.

 

It is hard to say without actually having tried the pastels. It does look like you get a varied color selection, and if the price is reasonable I say go for them!

The "bloom" comes from the wax that is in the prismacolors. It is what makes prisma colored pencils so soft and lovely as compared to cheaper colored pencils. I used these pencils on a daily basis for almost 20 years while teaching art. The "bloom" is the result of the wax, it appears on the top surface of the color after a week or two of no disturbance. But--in order to get a "bloom" one has to press very hard and cover the surface with a heavy layer of color. (the color will look almost like paint). It will be easier to see if you take a dark colored prisma, such as blue or black, and color a one-inch square on a piece of paper, you will see the bloom in a few days. Blooming is not really a problem. Just take a soft tissue and rub gently, the color becomes intense and lovely. My students loved "polishing" their pieces a week later.

I don't imagine you would see any such thing on a resin faceup due to lack of surface coverage.

 

Are there any really good tutorials for applying pastels? Ones with lots of step by step pictures? I've seen some good ones for using airbrush, but finally have decided that an airbrush is not buget for some time.

 

Since I'm still pretty new at face up and never done one. I'm planning to very soon. Does anyone know if it's ok to use Duro True pastel? They are hard chalky pastels. http://cgi.ebay.com/DURO-TRUE-PASTE...ryZ75576QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

Thanks.

EDIT: Btw, this page is very helpful. Thanks for the info. ^^;;

 

I've bought a set of 36 Reeves Pastels - I have their watercolour paints and thought the quality was good for the cheap price (they go for the 15$ canadian range) so I picked up their pastels too.

As for watercolour pencils, I have a pack of Staedler Karat Watercolours Pencils, and I hope I'm able to use them - anyone know if they're 'safe'?

 

I used Faber Castell waterpencils and one CretaColor Fine Art Pastel pencil to make my Elf Chiwoo face up.
They're great!.

 

big list of pretty much... cheap crap but seems to work just fine, no staining, nothign negative as of yet except for the testors which gets gummy on me reguardless of what i do -.-

Liquitex acrylic high gloss varnish
liquitex acrylic paints
testors dullcote
various paintbrushes
normal rubbing alcohol
cheap offbrand chalk pastels that i got from santa years ago[before i knew about bjds]
toothbrush for removing faceup
generic brand of water color pencil and average eraser for eyebrows and such
container of water
non terrycloth piece of fabric to wipe off brushes [the terrycloth actualy destroys my delicate brushes]
and a paper bag to transport wet with sealer or paint faces

but my stuff is generic really... i havent had any problem other than with the stupid testors dullcote

 

Has anyone used Caran D'ache prismaldo 1 water color pencils?
Are they safe to use?

 

id just like to say thank you for this thread - whenever i go into the art shops around here theres so many differant pastels im overwhelmed @_@ but im definately going to go for rembrant soft now! thanks!

 

Bukimeisu ~ i was wondering if the pastels i had were okay XD i was considering updating into some of the 'cooler' ones instead of one from a kids kit like thing. I'm glad to see other people use those!

and we even have some of the same paintbrushes.. XD

 

Unison pastels are very high quality and soft. It spreads smoothly with a small cosmetic brush, then evening it with a chunk of Mr. Clean Magic Eraser. I do all my face-ups with this brand and I highly recommend it, though price may be an issue. I believe they are more expensive than Rembrandt.

 

I was afraid at first but I tried it on Smudge... my blank bambicrony head and they worked wonders....

he turned out like this on my very very very first try...



once i got better i could get into faceups like these







They are safe as long as they do not contain oils.... and these are just like... sidewalk chalk almost....