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Tutorial Tacky Glue Sueding Tutorial (lots of large pictures!)

Jul 14, 2010

    1. Hello!

      I've had several discussions with people about sueding and it seems a lot of people think hot glue sueding is their only option. I've tried hot glue sueding and don't care for it, thats strictly MY personal opinion.

      However, using tacky glue and lambskin suede I have had nothing but wonderful results.

      Another thing that pops up in these discussions is they don't know really where to start. They don't know much about suede and are afriad they'll mess everything up from the start. Well, tacky glue sueding is super easy and so is working with suede.

      So here is my step by step tutorial on how to suede up one's doll in a nice easy manner. :)

      Starting off is what I use/what you will need.

      Scissors
      Tacky glue (I use Aleene's Fast Grab Tacky Glue, you can find this at stores like Walmart or Micheals or Hobby Lobby)
      Suede (I use lambskin suede I get from this Ebay seller. Its not the same as pliver as pliver is thinner)

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      And ofcourse the doll your going to suede. Today, Neo is the one getting sueded.

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      Ok, lets get started! *warning for the sensitive, doll nudity ahead*

      First off your going to unstring your doll and carefully lay it out. This is also a good time to give your doll a quick cleaning if you haven't done so in awhile. Its a good idea to wipe the ball sockets clean to keep dust or anything else from mixing with the glue.

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      Now, about the suede.
      Below is a very close picture of the two sides of suede. The top is the 'rough side' and the bottom is the 'smooth side'.
      Always glue the 'smooth side' down.

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      Now when I suede, I start with the biggest sections and work to the smallest ones. This is because I usually use the scrapes from cutting the larger sections down to fit for the smaller section like the wrists (you'll see). But its always a good idea to lay your scrapes off to the side in a pile, you never know when you need a small piece for fit here or there.

      I start with the chest joint.
      Sueding this will help with posing and stop resin from rubbing and leaving marks and also helps to stop some from doing that fun pitch back motion.
      I start with a large square, cut in half diagonally, giving you two triangles, cut triangles to fit sides.

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      Once cut to fit, smear pleanty of glue on resin.

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      Place your suede in smooth side to the glue and press gently into place. Make sure all the edges are glued down, if not, gently lift edge and put down more glue.

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      Do the same with the other side and I used left over scrapes to fill in the middle. I don't go for professional look as much as I want function.

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      Now on to the shoulder joint.

      Your going to eye the size of the joint socket and cut a square of similar size. Cut that square into a circle.

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      Place the circle over the shoulder joint socket.

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      And push gently into the socket, like so.

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    2. Now the parts that are bubbling inward need to be cut. So try to remember where the bubbling is and cut a wedge out, like this.

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      Now, push back into socket and see what you have to work with.

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      I usually cut anywhere from 2 - 4 wedges into shoulder socket joints. Just take your time and keep repeating and cutting alittle into the wedges until you get a good fit.

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      Now, once you have a good fit, you need to cut a hole for the string.

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      Its ok if doing so leaves you with 2-4 pieces, it'll fit. To insure a good fit, I like to make small cuts to the inside of the suede circle, you don't need to cut wedges but small straight cuts, like this.

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      Next, smear glue into the socket jont and lay the suede down and gently press into place. The cuts and the wedges will allow you to place it exactally where you want it.

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      On to the hip socket.
      These are much larger versions of the shoulder socket, so really same rules.
      Cut a square of suede, cut it into a large circle and press into socket joint.

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      Using the same method as the shoulder, start cutting wedges inthe suede for fit.

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      Same for the neck socket.

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      On the knee, ankle, elbow, and wrist areas I like to leave a space for the left/right indicator. On DOD, its a dot for one side and 2 dots for the other. You'll see below what I mean.


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    3. Now, for the knee joints I tend to use scrapes from the large areas.
      I like to start out with triangles and round them to fit, like so.

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      Leaving the dot visable.

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      Elbows are the same.
      I start with left over triangle pieces and round them to fit.

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      On wrists and ankle joints, I take a long thin strip of suede, make small straight cuts into one side of it, cut to length. Smear glue over wrist/ankle area and slowly work it in to fit.

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      At this point, your doll is all sueded up.
      I like to lay my doll on a shelf or some place I know he won't be bothered and let him dry for a good 5-6 hours.

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      After 5-6 hours, the glue is half way or more dry. Carefully restring your doll, looser is fine, don't go super tight, just go for a snug stringing. If you need to you can always tighten later.
      Then lay your doll out straight, arms at sides, legs straight out. Like this.

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      Leave your doll like this either over night or for another 5-6 hours. This helps set the joints, the glue, and the suede.

      After that, pick your doll up, tighten string if need be, dress, and your doll should be much more posable. :)

      I hope this helps and provides either an alternative to hot glue or gives ideas to create your own way of sueding.

      If you have questions, let me know, I'll do my best to answer.

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    4. Thank you soo much for this tutorial!
      For a while I'm looking for definition of sueding :lol:
      I am very new here, just got activated today, and have a lot to learn! :)

      Correct me if I'm wrong :)
      So, basically sueding is a process where we do something (with some method) to our doll joints so they will be easier to pose?
      Is it a must? What happen if we not sueding the doll? Abrasive friction?

      Oh, and sorry I f I'm in wrong place.. I mean, I don't know where to ask these question... Is it ok to ask here or I should move to the discussion?

      Btw, thank you for the tutorial, and (hopefully) the answer :)
       
    5. Hello and welcome to the forum :)
      Sueding is actually just that, you use suede to coat the socket joints so theres some friction or catch for the ball joint. Sueding is in no way, shape or form a must. There are lots out there that don't suede their dolls.
      Some use kips, which are plastic or silicone disks you place in the doll that aid in keeping the string in place, helping do what sueding does.
      Also there's another method using some kind of silicone gel, smearing that on the socket joints to create the friction but I haven't used that nor have I done much research on it.
      What happens if you don't suede? Nothing. The Ball and socket joints are generally smooth so you don't have to worry about anything. Sueding mainly aids in posing. If you have your doll and find it poses or sits or stands how you like without suede then thats great! Sueding is purely a personal preference.
      I hope that helps! :)
       

    6. I see... now I know :lol:
      Thank you sooo much for the answer! :D
       
    7. this is really helpfull,thanks for such detailde tutorial!
       
    8. Thank you soooo much for posting this. I now have new hope to play with photographing my dolls again! I have lost my patients with posing and reposing them to get a decent photo. I am especially happy to find instructions on how to do this with suede (not hot glue). I bought one doll second hand that is sueded in this manner and she is a dream to work with. Personally I think it looks and feels more professional than smearing hot glue in my doll's joints , but that comes from 25 years of collecting antique dolls. Surprise to my doll family! Little do they all know tonight everyone is coming apart for a sueding party!!!!
       
    9. This is really great! I'm ridiculously afraid of handling hot glue guns, so it's nice to have an alternative method of sueding available.
       
    10. Wau very nice. I dont have hot glue gun with me now. So its good to see other methods
       
    11. So, does this form of sueding just wash off with water? In other words, how easily does this come off were we to decide we didn't want it on there or want to sell the doll?
       
    12. Aileens Tacky Glue is water soluble, so removal would be quite easy with a little bit of water.
       
    13. AWESOME. <3 Your method of cutting the notches in fixes my sueding worries. I haven't done it yet mostly because I haven't felt like wrestling fabric into the proper cuts. >_> I have a lot of pliver--wondering if that's worth the use, hm. Thank you!
       
    14. This was amazingly wonderful and helpful! I was scared to suede, but this step-by-step made everything clear. I used pliver, because it's what I had, but I think the results will be good. My freshly sueded girl is drying as we speak. :)

      Thank you so much!!
       
    15. I'm not sure if I'm going to suede my baby any time soon, but if I do decide to this tutorial definitely helps a lot! You did a good job of showing all the little steps and those are the ones I'll get lost on. Thanks a bunch!
       
    16. Oh, I've let responding to any questions on here slip!

      As kobbi said, its water soluble. I haven't had any problems removing the glue, it usually will come off in one piece if you get a cornor up and peel it back. And if any is left, a quick wipe and your good to go! ;)

      And I am soo glad to hear this post is helping some to take this on themselves. I hope everyone's sueding experience is easy going. :)
       
    17. I used this tutorial recently and it WAS easy going~ My once-floppy Bobobie is now... my best poser next to my Obitsu. O_o I may even do this for my DZ Shoyo since she's gone flopkicky (with a good restring too of course). :> Once again more thanks!
       
    18. This. This tutorial was extremely helpful. Tacky Glue is holding a whole lot better than the Liquid Stitch and some other liquid glue I was using. Thank you so, so much.
       
    19. Thank you very much! I am not terribly graceful with a hot glue gun, so this sound like a better alternative for me. Thank you for the great pictures!
       
    20. Thank you! I'm also no good with hot glue guns....I think I lack technique....I just burn myself! XD

      Do let me know if this works out for you! :)
       
    21. Darn, this would've been really useful for me a week ago... as I just sueded my girl with chamois(or whatever it's called in english)
      Why didn't I use the gloriuos search on DOA, why?!
      Oh well, great tutorial anyway :'D
       
    22. This is AWESOME! I've been meaning to sued my boy but I really dont know what or how to get started. Seeing this makes things a lot easier. Thank you!
       
    23. This helps so much! I'm glad to see another way of sueding, and I think I'll be using this, especially since my boy's head is on so loose! :sweat
       
    24. Hello, I know this thread is old, but would microsuede work in place of pliver or lambskin suede?
       
    25. I've not personally tried microsuede but that shouldn't stop you. Try it on a few joints and see how it goes. Certainly couldn't hurt to explore. Just be careful with colored/dyed microsuede as that can leave stains your doll.
       
    26. This is very helpfull, i should be able to do this easily if my doll needs help posing. Thank you! :thumbup
      Do you know how expensive suade is in the uk? What alternatives that might be cheaper (if off-cuts ARE expensive) but still pretty good?
       
    27. Hello! Man this tutorial looks amazing! I just had a few questions about this technique with smaller sized dolls. I have a 1/4 scale bobobie and another very small doll at 11cm tall. Do you know if this technique works for smaller dolls also or will the material be too thick? I have tried hot glue in the past and it seems to always end up too thick around the joints.

      Thanks!
       
    28. Great tutorial. There is hope for my Bobobie Sprite. Thanks for sharing. This will really help a lot of people. Good job.
       
    29. Thank you for this very useful tutorial ! I have been wondering for a while how it was done ^___^ It looks less scary with all those explanations !
       
    30. I needed to know what side of the chamois I should glue and just found it here along with more tips. Thank you very much! I hope my single jointed Constantine will pose better after this (she's driving me crazy).
       
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