Ok here's the deal, now that I'm getting a Dean, I want to give him a goatee... I think that would be awsom, but at the same time... I don't want it to be permanent, so I was thinking... What if I used that stuff that's on junk mail... it's like rubber cement (or IS rubber cement....I'm not sure) it's tacky, rubbery, but won't permantly stick to my boy's chin... I want a wig for the face, one I can change or leave off all together. Anyone have any idea how I would go about doing this? What materials I should use?
Maybe you could get that fur that they use to make the fur wigs? I think you can find furry fabrics at fabric stores (>.> duh) or online fabric selling places. That way you can cut out a goatee-chunk and adhere it easily. As far as HOW to adhere it, I'm not sure. For super-temporary use.. double-sided tape? XD I'm completely unsure.
Maybe you could do what people do with wigs and stick velcro on it. Though, I'd be afraid if it left marks on the head. O.o
Aleene's "Tack-It Over and Over" . "A pressure -sensitive glue for a temporary bond". This is a really cool white glue that stays sticky like Scotch tape. Like tape, it gradually gets less sticky each time you stick it in place. Less than $4.
Hmm, that's a tough one. Well, I know that super-realistic facial hair in movies is done with the crepe hair you can get in any craft store, and applied with Spirit Gum. I don't think that Spirit Gum would be wise on a doll, but any kind of glue that could be removed with nailpolish remover would work, maybe stick glue even? You'd want to coat the face first, of course, and taking it off would take off the coating as well. if you google search on applying crepe hair there's a bunch of pages with instructions on how to straighten the crepe and apply it realistically.
hmm... I wonder about liquid laytex.... I wish I was still going to my art school.... I could have asked a teacher or something.
Hi there for my day job , I make miniatures ,we sculpt Fimo miniature dolls , we wig them useing Aileens tacky glue and mohair (www.littlebloomersdollsandbears.com) you could use the same method for his goatie use the water soluble tacky glue , spread a thick coat were the hair is to go then just push the mohair into it , , leave it to set , it will hold quite firm , but when you do want to remove it , it will peel away and wont damage the resin make sure its the Aileens Tacky glue , in the gold bottle or the thick in the blue and white bottle , these are water soluble to and recommended by (I think it was New York or Boston) Museum it is acid free and "friendly" as it will not deteriate or yellow with age :grin:
Anyone done facial hair, mustache and goatee, on your dolls yet? I thinking of drawing it on. Any suggetions? Or examples? Pictures? Comments? Concerns? :grin: Thanks.
No one's answered me! Really, has no one ever thought about this? Lots of ppl have done "adult hair" but not facial hair? Hmmmm. Anyone out there, let me know what you think...please? ops:
Good question, I was thinking about the same... I have not tried , but I think a goatee and thin moustache could be painted with very fine strokes, tho I don´t know if it would look strange in profile. I know Karin (http://www.krbussman.com) has given her Shirou an at least temporary beard, but I don´t know how she did that.
I want to see a dollie with some stubble-- I think it'd look very rugged and adorable in the right situations ^_^ And I was thinking about giving my girl a moustache when in her 'crossdressing' garb with her brother.
http://www.denofangels.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9306&highlight=armand -- Armand has a tiny bit of facial hair (if you scroll to the very bottom). I plan to put some facial hair on Yukio's friend Yasuo when I order him and do his faceup.
If you found some sort of adhesive that won't hurt resin, a good way to make stubble (I dated a drag king ^^;; Is to cut or shave some faux fur or fake hair into small bits and kind..of..sprinkle it onto the pre-stickied surface you wanted stubble on.
I wonder if that hair they use for theatrical beards, sideburns and such would work? You know, you buy it in kind of little braid-like things then separate, cut, etc. and apply with spirit gum. Maybe something like that would work? I know a glue like Elmer's Glue All would hold the hair on, dry clear and come off fairly easily if you didn't want it to be permanent. Just a thought. Jay
ok so i'm wanting to attach hair to a doll. i know that you can heat up resin and it be semi moldable (ie- heatin up to move fingers and such) and i was wanting to know some opinons. here's what i'm thinking example: sideburns suppose you wanted to attach sideburns to the side of your boy's head. could you heat the side w/ a hairdryer or something and use a tool to almost 'root' ,for lack of a better word, the hair to the head?....and once the resin was to cool the hair would be in there? lol i feel like i'm not making a bit of sense but like a needle and push the hair into the soft resin.....lol am i making any sense. ^^; i'm just trying to think of a more natural looking thing rather than using glue to get it to stay. does anyone think it could be done?
I think that would probably be a pretty drastic measure. I dont really know alot about it but I would say you could just go get some fur and stick that to his head instead of potentialy melting his head. I would use the stuff that people use to make them wonderful fur wigs with. But like I said I dont really know alot about it. But I dont think anyone would recomend heating up a resin face.
I don't really understand how that would work out - and I wouldn't recommend experimenting either, unless you have a junk head with which to try it out first Technically, you could heat up the resin and try and get a needle with hair as a thread through it while it was soft, but this would leave unsightly holes unless the needle was about the thickness of the hair >__>;; There would be the problem of keeping the head at a constant heat so that the needle wouldn't get stuck, as I doubt you'd be able to get it out again. Also, I think it would take quite a high heat to make the thick resin of a head become malleable. You would probably need to put it in the oven, which would be a nono because of the resin fumes. I agree with LWR - why don't you make/commish a wig with sideburns? Or perhaps paint them on? Or you could even use flocking!
thank you for your opinions ya'll i am afraid of messing the head up i had seen something about flocking but didnt see anything in depth or with pictures. also, i saw someone used the soft side of velcro as well lol ^^
Why not get some fur wefts (is that the word?) and cut them in the right shape-- then use white glue to stick it on to the sides of his head! You could make it match his wig, if his wig was fur (which might be hard if you painted them on), and plus, white glue will wash right off. That's what I would try, because you can try it over and over, and not risk messing up your head.
My guy has sideburns - I drew them on. XD''' He doesn't even have his wig yet. It worked pretty well, I think, although it doesn't have depth....
The rooting you're talking about is something that's commonly done with vinyl dolls. There is a tool called a rooter or rooting needle, and a long strand(s) of hair is bent over the tip, and you have to press into the vinyl to implant the hair. HOWEVER -- even with vinyl, this is known as a lengthy procedure. I can't see heating a resin head hot enough to be able to push holes into it, for a long enough time to get the hairs in (it's not just jab-jab-jab. You jab, release, let go of the head, get more strands, bend them over the needle, approach the head again.) without repeated heating, cooling, heating, cooling, again and again. I'm not sure what that would do to the resin short- or long-term.
Also, even if you managed to heat the resin and poke a strand of hair in, you'd have to pop the head right back in the oven which would melt the already implanted hair o_0
All around this is a bad idea. Rooting is commonly done with vinyl, which not only is softer, it compresses and expands again to (mostly) refill the hole you made and even then there are problems involved. If you really really MUST do this, do it with an Obitsu 60 cm, which is vinyl. Resin is not suited to this; rooting needs to be done on something soft that will catch and grab the hair. When these things are done for Hollywood props, rooting is always done with a silicon-rubber prop and not a resin one.
I am afraid you would compromise the resin with repeated heating and cooling and it might shatter. Here's what I would do: human wig making suppliers sell very fine mesh that is used to attach the hair on to make wigs. I believe the hairs are knotted on to this mesh one by one. You could make tiny sideburn wigs with this mesh and then just glue them on with white glue. Tedious work, knotting those hairs, but safer for your doll.
Now that's a possibility -- but why not start haunting consignment shops or thrift shops, or even ask friends and relatives if they have any old wigs they'd like to part with, and try cutting one up and playing with it?
i didnt think of mesh. that is a possiblity. and another drawback was the hair, consignment shops, great idea. do you think the human hair would be the right scale for the dolls? i guess if you trimmed it it'd be fine
You could knot mohair on it instead of human hair. I think the scale might be better. The mesh might work better than cutting up a wig. I haven't ever seen a high quality hand-made wig in a thrift store. The ones I have seen (and bought for Halloween and Mardi Gras) are machine made from wefts; not hand-tied on fine mesh.
Would the fake moustaches and facial hair sold at costume shops work? All you'd have to do is cut them to fit and use elmers school glue to make them stick. I wouldn't reccomend heating resin more than once or twice, it will get bendy, but it also will get very yellow and possibly brittle.
Ooh, yes, costume facial hair might work! It's woven onto fine mesh, but not the same way a wig is. A few strands of hair are hand knotted at a time. And... I happen to have a few taches lying around... heh heh heh... Linda S. galatia9
Justin, what in the world are you wanting to do with your boy? lol. If you want to try like fur, look in the sewing/wigs sub forum, there's a thread with a site to get free fur samples, i can give it to you if you want too, I'll smack you up if you go heat up a head now. Your best bet is probably drawing it on, since with the chest hair thing, it might come off easily with dressing him and all.
I can't guarantee it would work, but what about applying either mohair or (costume store crepe hair) in the way that false beards are applied to actors--the loose hair method. You get a clump of (factory combed) hair, then cut it. You apply a thin layer of glue to the face where you want the fake hair to be. Then you set the cut end of the hair into the glue, perpendicular to the face (pointing out from the face, like how real hair grows.) Then you trim it to the length and shape you want. That's what I would try (assuming I had any other dolls than girl dolls, who would frown upon being given moustaches) using white glue (elmers, pva, whatever was handy) or whichever acrylic medium came to hand most quickly. I don't have a camera at the moment, or I'd test it out myself with a mohawk on my girl's headcap to see if it works like I think it would.
Flocking is done like so: You paint a little glue onto the area you want the hair to go. You sprinkle the hair onto that area, let it dry for a few seconds, then blow across it to get the hair to stand up a bit. Flocking is, basically, just tapping out hair onto a glued area. The issue would be getting hair bits short enough for it. The suggestion on looking into costume facial hair is probably the way to go.
K-artist and Atsuhiko: thats a good idea!! i had actually thot about that. do you think, if you were to try chest hair or other hair, it would rub off cuz of clothes?
I should really check DoA more often. XD You do run the risk of it coming off, yeah, since you can't really seal down hair. It can be replaced, though.
The process is called venting. If you've ever done a latch-hook rug, then you know how to do it. You get the venting hook, loop two or three strands of hair on it, then make a knot on to the venting mesh. Most costuming supply shops would have this, as it's something that's done quite often to make fake hairpieces for the theater. I would not reccomend mohair for this, as it will be too close together and appear matted. Human hair or a very good synthetic hair would be best.
I have plans on getting another male doll in the future but I wanted to put some sexay chops on his cheeks and was looking for some tips on how some other owner would do this to theirs? I haven't seen any of this done before though, so im not sure how much info. id get back from this x3
Just paint them on? Haha, chops, that's so awesome. I'm not sure how they would look if you were to glue fuzz on the sides of his face. Might be a bit too much?
I have to agree... it's hard to get the right look with fur/fuzz + glue when working with facial hair, especially on younger 'sexay' characters (assuming here). I'd most defiantly try painting them on... I think you'll be more pleased with the end result. Good luck!
Flocked chops have been done before. http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249936 They look quite good, I think. But I'm biased, I'm obsessed with them. :lol:
If you want them actually fuzzy, I would suggest getting velcro in the appropriate color and cutting the fuzzy side into the right shape and glueing it on your doll with white glue. You should be able to find velcro in various thicknesses and colors. ^_^ Doll velcro would probably offer the most realistic fuzz.
Oh my, thats kind of creepy But the fuzz just looks kind of weird..... I think I may just paint them on then x3
>> I have a doll of my World of Warcraft character, who has some rather impressive chops. I did his by cutting up a fur wig the same as his haircolor and gluing it to the sides of his face.
I want to help my Elfdoll, Mir, with the hint of facial hair. Does any one have advice on adding a shadow? Pictures would be extremely helpful. THANKS!!!
I gave my boy, Roderick, a bit of facial hair. I went a little more intense than just a shadow, but here's what I did. It looks a little heavier, but basically I just layered up a few different colors of chalk pastel that I got based on the color of his hair and looking at some pics on google image search (plus I have a lot of guy friends). Then I sealed that and added some small details with brown and a little black water color pencil and sealed again. If you want it lighter, I'd say just use a lighter hand and maybe skip the pencil part all together. If you have any other questions or you like what I did you can PM me, too. ^_^
Thanks for your reply. I want with that my BJD looked less juvenile, but I also like a scruffier look. What attracted me to Rainman's Mir is he has a gangster appearance - at least in Rainman's initial concepts.
if you want a picture, there's a crobidoll killian with facial hair. Reminds me overwhelmingly of johnny depp ^^ http://souldoll.com/goods/images/20080213124443cont.jpg
I think Hitoyo means this page: http://souldoll.com/shop/step1.php?number=1239 There's also pepstar's JD Minimee: http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185109 not quite a shadow, more of a goatee.
So, I've seen a lot about painting or drawing on beards, but has anyone actually used wig hair to make a beard, and if so will they show pictures? I'm thinking of bearding one of my dolls and I'd like to use wig type hair to do it so I'm curious if there has been any prior success.
I'd recomend using mohair, but I'm not sure how you would do it. None of my girls really want me to try anything on them either. You could always go to Michaels and look at their Santa beards in the doll section and base the beard off of that, depending on how full you wanted it.
For my JD MiniMee's pirate cosplay, I took chunks of mohair, cut one end flush, brushed clear drying tacky glue on it, and stuck it to his face. It looked really good, but I didn't get any pictures.
I've seen a few real beards. Some used synthetic wig fibers, some mohair. You might want to check out this recent gallery posting by Zagzagael, where the chin beard, lashes and eyebrows are all done with the same fibers! http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302304
I know Pullips and Co are cheaper, so I'm not sure I'd do this on a BJD if I had one, lol. But you could use a handdrill to make some holes in the face and thread mohair like you would a wig? I've always wanted to try it. I bet it would work. Then get some hot glue or E-6000 and glue it on the inside - so you wont have to see glue.
I've done a mustache and a gotee using mohair and long sideburns, check my signature for my Lunatic Fringe thread..
This isn't exactly a beard but it is very well done. She tells you how she did it too. http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269467&highlight=Happy+trail
ah, thanks for all the suggestions, I really appreciate those links! Oddly enough I DID search for "beard" but didn't come up with those discussions. I think I'm search challenged or something That Loki post is just what I was hoping to see - not just a discussion, but that someone had done it and it had worked! Hmm.....not too sure about the um...pubic one hahaha. Thanks for the link Lesrees cause it was worth looking, but given as I'm planning this on a Bobobie Apollo - and those boys um...."pack some heat" it would take forever to give him netherhairs hahaha.